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Barling Magna 14th Nov 2019 18:11

Especially as RBS have a big presence in Southend with their office block close to the foot of runway 23.

pabely 14th Nov 2019 18:46


Originally Posted by runwayman (Post 10618553)
Does anyone know if Easyjet will be flying into Schipol next summer or Lelystad as the AMS airport authority wanted to move all LCC to Lelystad to free up slots for long haul flights at AMS.

Reported that Ryanair & Transavia have expressed interest but limited to only 11 movements a day currently although that will rise. Zero chance that anything to SEN.

Bee Rexit 14th Nov 2019 19:51


Originally Posted by Barling Magna (Post 10618663)
Especially as RBS have a big presence in Southend with their office block close to the foot of runway 23.

Technically it is now Natwest Offices. It has been rebranded over the last couple of years.

SEN Observer 15th Nov 2019 06:01

Night Flights
 
The gripers are griping!
http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/1803...g-us-sleeping/

Expressflight 15th Nov 2019 06:34

I'm not at all surprised that there are complaints and Stobart's claim that "each (B734F) flight has the same noise emittance as a normal Ryanair flight ..." will not be believed unfortunately. Some I have spoken with at SEN reckon the noise nuisance is perceived as being worse than the B738. I think Stobart will at least have to publish the Noise Certificate figures for the aircraft in use on these freight flights.

asdf1234 15th Nov 2019 12:29


Originally Posted by Expressflight (Post 10618950)
I'm not at all surprised that there are complaints and Stobart's claim that "each (B734F) flight has the same noise emittance as a normal Ryanair flight ..." will not be believed unfortunately. Some I have spoken with at SEN reckon the noise nuisance is perceived as being worse than the B738. I think Stobart will at least have to publish the Noise Certificate figures for the aircraft in use on these freight flights.

The engine option on the 400F and the 800 is relevant as is the take-off weight but actual noise difference should be minimal with the 400F being quieter at some take-off weights. However we are talking about "perceived" noise, not actual noise, and a 1am or 3am aircraft movement is always going to sound louder than the equivalent aircraft movement at 1pm or 3pm. Residents can apply for free triple glazing I believe if they can prove a noise nuisance.

rowly6339 15th Nov 2019 16:40

Warwick Brady has said today that they are looking to build a new arrivals terminal and a 2nd hotel at Southend.

asdf1234 15th Nov 2019 17:52


Originally Posted by rowly6339 (Post 10619327)
Warwick Brady has said today that they are looking to build a new arrivals terminal and a 2nd hotel at Southend.

The results are also out. Profit per passenger before taking into account the cost of attracting Whizz and Ryanair (and assuming the easyjet sweetener has all been paid), the cost of finance interest and the cost of building the airport, is below £4. The airport needs this to be above £8 to make a profit. i.e. in excess of a 100% improvement.

With dwindling resources and having mortgaged the entirety of the Eddie Stobart shares they hold, the board has decided not to pay shareholders a dividend going forward until such time as the airport becomes profitable. What little cash they have left is to be invested in the 2nd hotel and new arrivals terminal. This is the final gamble!

As an aside, the airport is focussing entirely on the departure experience which in itself is not surprising, as it is departing pax that spend money which goes to the airport. However the inbound pax experience is important and to date I've found the queuing at immigration and the luggage belt unacceptably long for a small airport. Hopefully the upcoming investment programme will allow a budget for the installation of automatic passport readers.




Tagron 16th Nov 2019 03:13

Interim-Results-Presentation-2019-FINAL-2.pdf

Page 23 is the key to what is being talked about

DC3 Dave 16th Nov 2019 08:59

Looks like the Jet Centre will become the arrivals area. I suppose relocation to the north side is possible - Inglenook fireplace and all.

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southender 16th Nov 2019 09:37

Looks like the end of the road for Seawing and the flying club then!

DC3 Dave 16th Nov 2019 11:20

I think someone's had one too many.

https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/180...ssengers-year/

stewyb 16th Nov 2019 11:33

Deluded if they think 20m will serve this size of airport, the footprint simply isn’t big enough and the owners really need a reality check and be careful they don’t bite off more than they can chew!

ericlday 16th Nov 2019 11:41

Had to check that it wasn't 1st April......

Barling Magna 16th Nov 2019 15:45

Are they going to buy the retail park and the golf course........? Five million pax per year should be the maximum, I'd have thought......

davidjohnson6 16th Nov 2019 16:57

I think Stobart are struggling to make much profit out of SEN and are their finances are somewhat stretched. Not dissimiliar to Luton airport about 15 years ago

If the airport were to be sold by Stobart to a bigger company with deeper pockets and greater ability at extracting profit from SEN, then I imagine money could be found to buy the retail park or golf course. I very much doubt the retail park owner would object to a big pile of cash or the individual tenants being bought out of their leases when the average High Street is struggling so much

Bee Rexit 17th Nov 2019 08:49

Lots of local support for the airport up to where it is now but I think they will struggle to get the same support for further expansion especially since the arrival of Ryanair and the "global logistics partner" causing more disturbance in this last year than any of the previous, post runway extension, years. 2-3 million passengers is probably about right. Anything over 10m isn't do able anyway under the current restrictions.

asdf1234 17th Nov 2019 10:53


Originally Posted by DC3 Dave (Post 10619696)
Looks like the Jet Centre will become the arrivals area. I suppose relocation to the north side is possible - Inglenook fireplace and all.

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I note the Jet Centre CEO has changed. Does anyone know what has happened to the previous incumbent Stephen Grimes?

Tagron 17th Nov 2019 11:25


Originally Posted by Bee Rexit (Post 10620288)
Lots of local support for the airport up to where it is now but I think they will struggle to get the same support for further expansion especially since the arrival of Ryanair and the "global logistics partner" causing more disturbance in this last year than any of the previous, post runway extension, years. 2-3 million passengers is probably about right. Anything over 10m isn't do able anyway under the current restrictions.

Even 10m is realistically unachievable under the present movement limit. 10m could only be reached if all movements were by fully laden 189-seat aircraft e.g. B737-800 or a mix of bigger and smaller aircraft to get the same result. 53,300 x 189 = 10,073,700. Clearly that is not going to happen. What would be a more realistic upper limit - 6-7m perhaps ?

The only way to achieve a greater figure of course would be to get the movement cap raised. That does not seem to me to be likely, and recent events cannot have helped.

davidjohnson6 17th Nov 2019 13:40

If in 5 or 10 years time, Southend is handling 6m pax per year, there will be some very intense lobbying to raise the limits at Southend


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