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LTNman 31st Jul 2018 16:15

Search YouTube for air ambulance Luton Airport for full screen


davidjohnson6 31st Jul 2018 16:39

Kharkiv
 
To me a 3x weekly route from Luton to somewhere like Kharkiv is a bit of a jaw dropper. Eastern Ukraine near the Russian border, not that far from the region with a frozen conflict. Very few Brits will be going there either as tourists, for business or visiting friends / relatives. Ukrainian / Russian citizens generally don't have residency or employment rights in the UK. Furthermore eastern Ukraine tends to be much more pro-Russia compared to the pro-EU west of Ukraine

Yes I know there was a Luton-Donetsk route around 2012 but it didn't last long - the fighting around Donetsk and destruction of Donetsk airport didn't exactly help. Yes I know Wizz already fly from Kharkiv to Dortmund and Katowice. But all the same the announcement of the route still amazes me

Pain in the R's 31st Jul 2018 16:56


Russian citizens generally don't have residency or employment rights in the UK.
Doesn't seem to stop Colombians, Brazilians or the whole of Africa settling here so there must be ways to get around the system.

Planespeaking 31st Jul 2018 17:07


Originally Posted by Pain in the R's (Post 10211134)
Doesn't seem to stop Colombians, Brazilians or the whole of Africa settling here so there must be ways to get around the system.

Well said Pain!

compton3bravo 31st Jul 2018 17:57

Watching the routings being taken by Wizz and Ryanair this morning some coming over the KENT coast and others coming over Norfolk. Must say hats off to all at NATS but of course we had the moaners on aircraft complaining about the delays outbound. I see the little Englanders are out in force again!

pabely 31st Jul 2018 19:46

India
 
Didn't see this coming on horizon https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/am...on/629556.html

Buster the Bear 31st Jul 2018 21:10

Air India! They only have B777-200s or Boeing 787s. I did wonder if they were getting A321LRs, but no?

22/04 31st Jul 2018 21:23

Probably not a field length problem for either to Amritsar if they don't haul much cargo. However I don't know if there are any stand/wingtip clearance issues.

CabinCrewe 31st Jul 2018 21:35

Air India ex LTN will come to nothing.
AI dont know if theyre coming or going...

wallp 31st Jul 2018 21:40


Originally Posted by Buster the Bear (Post 10211357)
Air India! They only have B777-200s or Boeing 787s. I did wonder if they were getting A321LRs, but no?

I thought 787's were well equipped for shorter runways and both they and 777-200's already fly in/out of Luton occasionally with TUI and El-Al respectively?

jdcg 31st Jul 2018 22:18

The reason why there might seem to be many Brazilian and Colombian people here is because many of them have Portuguese and Spanish passports respectively. Although, frankly, there are not THAT many of them and I live near one of the major Brazilian and Colombian areas of London.
As to the "whole of Africa" being here. Just nonsense

inOban 31st Jul 2018 22:35

And so long as there are lots of jobs that British people don't want to do, we will continue to need to bring in people from elsewhere, particularly from countries whose economies we have helped to ruin, whether by climate change or by the supply of arms.

LTNman 1st Aug 2018 04:48


Originally Posted by Buster the Bear (Post 10211357)
Air India! They only have B777-200s or Boeing 787s. I did wonder if they were getting A321LRs, but no?

Does Luton have terminal stands that can now even handle B777s or 787s? My son used to work for a handling agent and they were told that since the stands were remarked to squeeze more stands in those passengers would have to be bussed. I thought it was nonsense but since then ElAl haven’t put anything bigger than a 767 through Luton.

cj241101 1st Aug 2018 09:07

This Google Earth image shows the remarked stands, although the 767 image has been superimposed for reasons which only Google can answer (it appears on their historical images as well, going back as far as 1945 :confused::confused:). Stand 42 is the normal spot for the 767-300 (180ft 5ins long), stand 42R is left of 42 in the picture with the forward stop bar and was intended for 777-200's (209ft 1ins long). There was an unsubstantiated rumour it wasn't long enough and, as LTNman says, El Al haven't sent us a 777 since October, although IIRC the stands were already marked before then. As for the 787-8 (length 186ft 1in), I don't believe it has been parked on a terminal contact stand yet and the only commercial flights I know of so far have been parked on the south apron. Wingspan shouldn't be an issue, 2ft 8ins less then the 777-200.

https://i.imgur.com/XoDRnDS.jpg

As for Air India operating Amritsar-Luton, well, the statement quoting Luton as the London airport due to a lack of slots at Heathrow seems to have come from a minister of some kind whose knowledge of aircraft performance from short runways, not to mention the suitability of the planned destination airport, is probably nil. Dream on.

Lee Baker Street 1st Aug 2018 09:30

Not long enough.
 

Originally Posted by cj241101 (Post 10211768)
This Google Earth image shows the remarked stands, although the 767 image has been superimposed for reasons which only Google can answer (it appears on their historical images as well, going back as far as 1945 :confused::confused:). Stand 42 is the normal spot for the 767-300 (180ft 5ins long), stand 42R is left of 42 in the picture with the forward stop bar and was intended for 777-200's (209ft 1ins long). There was an unsubstantiated rumour it wasn't long enough and, as LTNman says, El Al haven't sent us a 777 since October, although IIRC the stands were already marked before then. As for the 787-8 (length 186ft 1in), I don't believe it has been parked on a terminal contact stand yet and the only commercial flights I know of so far have been parked on the south apron. Wingspan shouldn't be an issue, 2ft 8ins less then the 777-200.

https://i.imgur.com/XoDRnDS.jpg

As for Air India operating Amritsar-Luton, well, the statement quoting Luton as the London airport due to a lack of slots at Heathrow seems to have come from a minister of some kind whose knowledge of aircraft performance from short runways, not to mention the suitability of the planned destination airport, is probably nil. Dream on.


I recall 2 Boeing 747s parked (at the same time) on that very apron a few years ago for football charters. I further recall a 747 on the south apron and a Antanov 124 also parked on the south apron. Further more there was a Virgin 747 and another 747 that was parked in front of the current Britannia hangar many years ago. In effect most large transports can be accommodated but during quieter periods.

LAX_LHR 1st Aug 2018 09:45

But, Air India do have unused slots at Heathrow. It was quite publicised a few weeks ago as Jet Airways tried to grab said slots, but Air India insisted they will eventually use them, so Jet lost their application case.

cj241101 1st Aug 2018 10:33


Originally Posted by Lee Baker Street (Post 10211800)
I recall 2 Boeing 747s parked (at the same time) on that very apron a few years ago for football charters. I further recall a 747 on the south apron and a Antanov 124 also parked on the south apron. Further more there was a Virgin 747 and another 747 that was parked in front of the current Britannia hangar many years ago. In effect most large transports can be accommodated but during quieter periods.

https://i.imgur.com/gld4eh6.jpg
9/3/04, Arsenal-Valencia football match IIRC. More 747 Luton photos on History & Nostalgia:-
tried to put a link in which keeps failing, 747 pictures pages 32-24.

ericlday 1st Aug 2018 11:04

What appears to be preventing aircraft landing currently ? Various holding patterns being taken !!!

Falcon666 1st Aug 2018 13:19

Easyjet a/c with hydraulic problems landed and airport fire in attendance .
Runway inspected for fluid, airport closed for about 10 mins

ericlday 1st Aug 2018 13:38

Falcon, Thanks for the info.


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