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LGS6753 12th Nov 2019 08:22

...and anyone without a long memory can read about it here:
https://aviation-safety.net/database...?id=19740621-0

The picture of the light gantry in the report is instructive - compare the flimsy construction to the new bridge structure.

Buster the Bear 12th Nov 2019 11:01


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10616719)
I have noticed that the Gateway Bridge being finished off opposite the Ibis has picked up a temporary attached red aircraft warning light at the top of its ski ramp. Still can’t get my head around how such a tall structure (see photo post 3043) will end up by the end of the approach lights and just to their side when those approach lights are not even a full set but a much shorter version due to the location of the A1081.

Anyone with a long memory will remember the Dan Air 727 that took out not only the ILS aerials but also the approach lights as it dropped into the valley below. What would have happened if a Gateway type structure was there at the time?

VR-CBQ July 1991 did the same.

LTNman 12th Nov 2019 11:38


Originally Posted by LGS6753 (Post 10616763)
...and anyone without a long memory can read about it here:
https://aviation-safety.net/database...?id=19740621-0

The picture of the light gantry in the report is instructive - compare the flimsy construction to the new bridge structure.

This is an old photo from a month ago as the blue supports have now gone. From close up it looks rather substantial to me with its cross member supports. The photo was taken before the red light appeared on its highest point.
https://i.imgur.com/uKByIk1.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/5My9usg.jpg

LTNman 13th Nov 2019 08:03

This is the outline plan to expand the airport to around 22.5 million passengers.

Plans include another extension to the front of the terminal by building an extension that will sit at an angle and butt against the bus bays.
Expansion of the boarding gate area in the north of the exiting terminal
Renewal of the original boarding gate area to the western part of the terminal which is the former duty free shop and associated wooden structure.
New pier and apron opposite the new multi story car park and drop off area.

Quart and pint pots come to mind as there is no expansion to the departure lounge. I make this terminal extension number 17 as the original terminal is still in use.
Also no sooner will the CTA be finished with the Dart in 2021 then construction within the CTA would well start all over again.

https://i.imgur.com/3WA7tM5.jpg

Falcon666 13th Nov 2019 13:54


pabely 13th Nov 2019 18:16

The six pack to the East of the runup bay is shown in grey because it already committed to with an approved tender?

PAXboy 13th Nov 2019 20:10

Heh heh. Good old English planning. Bit by Bit, make it up as we go along, hoping no one will notice. Same process for the M25, they applied for all the sections piecemeal.

I like the non-English: "Section 1.4 describes the process of optioneering ..." great jargon.

LTNman 13th Nov 2019 21:26


Originally Posted by pabely (Post 10617920)
The six pack to the East of the runup bay is shown in grey because it already committed to with an approved tender?

LLAOL claim this is part of the original application for 18 million passengers but was never built. They have been taking a leaf out of the councils book of dishonesty as they try to hoodwink people with deception and lies.

Also it is not 32 million it is 38 million but the council cannot admit it otherwise it will cost them a lot of money. By applying for 32 million and then adding another 6 million later they don’t become liable for big bills away from the airport for major infrastructure projects needed to support a bigger airport.

JW95 14th Nov 2019 11:22

LTN Terminal 2
 
Just had a read over the proposed plans for terminal 2 in the 'Future Luton Scheme development' report and it looks as though LTN is finally set to have jet bridges on both new piers when it opens. I'm sure that many people on here (as well as passengers and airlines) will agree that this is a long overdue and welcome change. A definite step in the right direction. Airlines such as LY, EZY and TUI frequently use jet bridges at other airports, so I'm sure that they'll welcome the news. Even W6 use them some of the airports they serve (e.g. LGW, OTP, FRA), so will be interesting to see if they opt in to use them at LTN, especially given that they are the second biggest carrier here now.

Also, I note that the report mentions nine new stands will be capable of servicing long haul aircraft, namely 787 and 359, but realistically cannot see these coming to the airport anytime soon, at least on a regularly scheduled basis. Although perhaps TUI might consider offering seasonal LTN-SFB/LTN-MLB flights at some point?

Certainly, interesting times ahead for LTN.

LTNman 14th Nov 2019 15:11

The report actually says air bridges if required by airlines. What that has meant in the past is that if airlines pay for them which they won’t.

The artists impression of the new terminal front is just that, an impression that won’t be delivered. History has taught us that what is proposed and what is actually built is very different so I cannot even be bothered to reproduce a fantasy photo here that will never be built.

pabely 14th Nov 2019 18:51


Originally Posted by JW95 (Post 10618386)
Also, I note that the report mentions nine new stands will be capable of servicing long haul aircraft, namely 787 and 359, but realistically cannot see these coming to the airport anytime soon, at least on a regularly scheduled basis.

Not without a starter strip.......the 321XLR might work for WZZ then!

LTNman 18th Nov 2019 10:20

Construction update
 
Railings have been attached to the curved Gateway bridge which is now just waiting for the painting to be finished before the big move. Careful examination shows the temporary power cable for the red aircraft warning light
https://i.imgur.com/nm3NH9m.jpg

Taxiway Bravo continues to be dug out. In the distance to the right of the departing Wizz sheeting for a shallow Dart trench is being piled in the mid term car park. In the top right hand corner can be seen the Gateway Bridge
https://i.imgur.com/EjXezqq.jpg

One part of the twin Dart tunnel
https://i.imgur.com/lrk70hw.jpg

Central station is getting its roof supports installed plus the beams to keep the walls apart.
https://i.imgur.com/6i6msFC.jpg

Maintenance area for Dart has had its temporary yellow jacks removed
https://i.imgur.com/GFMhRlz.jpg

Bus station seems to be growing wider with a new wall going in. A non-commissioned bus bay has finally been completed with what looks like another one being built.
https://i.imgur.com/YXpiueJ.jpg

LGS6753 18th Nov 2019 13:02

During the regular weekend night closure, are flights being brought forward/backwards to avoid the closure period, not operated at all, or being moved elsewhere?

LTNman 18th Nov 2019 15:56

What night closures? There was/is one closure this month due to annual maintenance. Don't know of anything else

PAXboy 18th Nov 2019 16:23

As jet bridges enforce a one person at a time method thst slow things down, why have them for LCC? As per recent boarding thread in PAX forum.

VickersVicount 18th Nov 2019 16:42


Originally Posted by PAXboy (Post 10621202)
As jet bridges enforce a one person at a time method thst slow things down, why have them for LCC? As per recent boarding thread in PAX forum.

At the stage of an airbridge that close to an aircraft doesn't any method (including flimsy external integral aircraft airstairs) mean 'one person at a time' ? Ive certainly been down an airbridge with another in parallel?

Dannyboy39 18th Nov 2019 17:03


Originally Posted by VickersVicount (Post 10621212)

At the stage of an airbridge that close to an aircraft doesn't any method (including flimsy external integral aircraft airstairs) mean 'one person at a time' ? Ive certainly been down an airbridge with another in parallel?

Or they’re built like at LGW and the passengers using the aft door still use the stairs

LGS6753 18th Nov 2019 18:35

There was one (night closure) this last weekend. I had thought it was weekly during November - possibly mistakenly.

Falcon666 18th Nov 2019 21:22


Originally Posted by LGS6753 (Post 10621267)
There was one (night closure) this last weekend. I had thought it was weekly during November - possibly mistakenly.

Original NOTAM had two consecutive weekends overnight closures for annual runway maintenance.
This has now finished.

LTNman 18th Nov 2019 22:02

I only saw one closure listed for one night although another date could have been listed after the first one ended as I didn’t take much notice of the actual date. There was plenty of notice given including a date for the annual runway charity run.


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