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BlueA330 19th Jul 2019 14:02


Originally Posted by pabely (Post 10522689)
The one with the covered bus lane I was thinking if! 1968 was a little before my time! We had one Royal arrive on 747 but that was a diversion from LHR if I remember correctly!

yes it was Prince Andrew coming in from Toronto

LTNman 19th Jul 2019 14:15

Just another 555,000 passengers to go before the airport breaches its permitted maximum passenger limit.

pabely 19th Jul 2019 14:49


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10522803)
Just another 555,000 passengers to go before the airport breaches its permitted maximum passenger limit.

Will that really be enforced, if so by whom

LTNman 19th Jul 2019 15:13

There are enough pressure groups, MP’s and other councils to make sure Luton Borough Council does not turn a blind eye as being in breach of planning permission is serious. Of course the council can apply to itself to increase that limit but it would cause a major stink as once again the benefactor would be the council.

One group is on 3CR just after 5 about aircraft noise.

pabely 19th Jul 2019 15:51


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10522833)
There are enough pressure groups, MP’s and other councils to make sure Luton Borough Council does not turn a blind eye as being in breach of planning permission is serious. Of course the council can apply to itself to increase that limit but it would cause a major stink as once again the benefactor would be the council.

One group is on 3CR just after 5 about aircraft noise.

3 Counties Radio?
Did it not take just over 6 months to get approval from 12M to 18M from Government before?

LTNman 19th Jul 2019 17:48

12-18 million was again decided by the council. 18-32 to be decided by government while 32-36 or 38 million to be decided by the council.

There is a plan to go from 18 to 22 million if the government says no to 32 million but no one is meant to know about that plan yet. Might be the case that they will indeed go for 22 million as a short term fix to add capacity with mods to the existing terminal, a new pair and apron on the temporary drop off zone. This is part of the bigger planning application but it could well be separated.

Falcon666 19th Jul 2019 19:39


inOban 19th Jul 2019 19:48

Is there also a limit on the number of people in the terminal at any one time, set by its fire certificate?

LTNman 19th Jul 2019 21:18

If there is it isn’t enforced. A coupe of months ago I reported the terminal for overcrowding to Beds Fire Service and even supplied a video of an airside terminal evacuation but they never got back to me. Just waiting for the first crush during a real emergency when people are in a panic mode so I can say I told you so at an inquest.


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/930179...ed-fire-alarm/

When the builders where in some fire exits at the front of the terminal were blocked for months.

ClearLand08 20th Jul 2019 11:06

Taxiway Foxtrot
 
The UK aeronautical charts on NATS website are now showing details for Taxiway Foxtrot and the Kilo link effective 15th August.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e57e28677e.jpg

pabely 20th Jul 2019 13:33


Originally Posted by ClearLand08 (Post 10523472)
The UK aeronautical charts on NATS website are now showing details for Taxiway Foxtrot and the Kilo link effective 15th August.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e57e28677e.jpg

That's quick, you can get 4 aircraft parked up between Foxtrot 2 & 4 at night ;-)

LTNman 20th Jul 2019 13:46

The NAT chart doesn't show the deicing pads which are all floodlit with a row of 4 lighting towers. Looks like the de-icing pads are part of a super wide taxiway as F3 is shown on what would be the stand. Looks like if an aircraft is being de-iced then another aircraft does not have enough room to pass although I could be wrong. Certainly there are no stand markings. New opportunity to handle a few more diverts if pressed.

https://i.imgur.com/E1LHAYd.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/3X5j6cP.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/cKarCcb.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/thqDL8E.jpg

LGS6753 23rd Jul 2019 20:14

Vueling will cease its Amsterdam service on 13th August. Thereafter all flights will be flown by Level. So capacity increases as an A320 is replaced by an A321.

pabely 24th Jul 2019 10:20


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10523554)
The NAT chart doesn't show the deicing pads which are all floodlit with a row of 4 lighting towers. Looks like the de-icing pads are part of a super wide taxiway as F3 is shown on what would be the stand. Looks like if an aircraft is being de-iced then another aircraft does not have enough room to pass although I could be wrong. Certainly there are no stand markings. New opportunity to handle a few more diverts if pressed.

https://i.imgur.com/E1LHAYd.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/3X5j6cP.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/cKarCcb.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/thqDL8E.jpg

Thanks for the pichures:
Can't see much drainage but this might just be the angle.
Those car owners are going to love all that deicer spray come the winter!

Falcon666 24th Jul 2019 12:30

Stands 1R-8 to be reconstructed ? what’s this about?

New South East stands split build of a two and six pack ?

cost £22 million.

Also Tender out to replace both escalators from security to Duty Free next Spring

Falcon666 24th Jul 2019 12:32


Originally Posted by pabely (Post 10526772)
Thanks for the pichures:
Can't see much drainage but this might just be the angle.
Those car owners are going to love all that deicer spray come the winter!

According to the plans the drainage channel is on the western edge of the taxiway so probably can’t see it from the vantage point of the photos

LTNman 24th Jul 2019 14:27

The drop off zone which is south east would only take 4 stands. Interesting to know where a 2 and 6 stand apron will go as that is not part of the consultation to expand the airport. Would they really build an apron on the wrong side of 2 live taxiways for passenger use?

ericlday 24th Jul 2019 14:49

Desperate times (for parking) call for desperate measures (build more stands)

LTNman 24th Jul 2019 15:19

The present stand count, terminal and general infrastructure were designed for 18 million passengers. No point in building more stands if the terminal can't cope but now we have another 8 stands. So what does that tell you?

Falcon666 24th Jul 2019 15:36


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10527025)
The present stand count, terminal and general infrastructure were designed for 18 million passengers. No point in building more stands if the terminal can't cope but now we have another 8 stands. So what does that tell you?

Tells me there’s a lot going on in the background that we are all unaware of.
Just looking at the map, there are very few places that a two stand area would fit perfectly
Could it be that this is the area by the run up bay and not the current drop off area.Have plans totally changed?

Strange that Stands 1-9 need restrengthening, do they have to meet a new standard or are they showing physical signs of cracking?


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