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Desk Driver 8th Jul 2002 10:32

Transjet loose Goldensun contract!
 
TTG have reported that Golden sun have pulled their flying with Transjet and moved it to MK Airlines of Iceland! This comes just 2 weeks after Golden Sun gave their backing to TJet.

Also reports that the Captain who refused to fly on saftey grounds was not sacked but left the company of his own free will.

Finally states that the company invited the CAA to conduct 3 ramp checks and only "MINOR things were found."

I can only comment from a Tour Op's point of view and that would've been the same. For whatever reason it's just not acceptable, I would move my business too. I assume that they are still using the same seat bokers though, something I would've changed if contracts allowed.

Let's hope that MK live up to expectations, whoever they are?

World Traveller 8th Jul 2002 11:16

MK?
 
Sure its not MD Icelandic Airlines, a charter airline with a few MD-80s?

They've been around 2 or 3 years I think.

MK are a cargo airline with DC8s and 747s.

WT
<Just a Punter>

Brenoch 8th Jul 2002 11:24

Surely it must be MD Icelandic Airlines..
MK is not icelandic is it..

No comment 8th Jul 2002 11:27

Transjet
 
Does that include the Gatwick operation?
To be honest I'm sure the pax wont know the difference between an SWL MD80 and MK Airlines DC-8....give it to Mr Kruger...! Can only hope MD's MD80s are in better nick. out of the frying pan into the .....???

Roger de Rofton 8th Jul 2002 11:37

No comment,

I think they would notice the difference, MK are an African based CARGO airline:)

RdR

Brenoch 8th Jul 2002 11:41

At least the lack of chairs would give them a hint..

Desk Driver 8th Jul 2002 11:56

YES! it's MD not MK! I appologise to all Freight dogs who might of got excited!

I've always hood trible wath mi spolling. Like I said I only need 1% skill

Nopax,thanx 8th Jul 2002 12:06

Easy mistake to make.....MK have operated aircraft on the Icelandic register.

No complaints about legroom though!!!!!!!!!!!!

Avman 8th Jul 2002 13:18

MD Airlines is Icelandic registered but based in Stockholm (Arlanda), currently operating 3 MD-80s.

VIKING9 8th Jul 2002 14:29

MD Airlines, being Icelandic, are surely not part of the EU. Can they operate UK originating flights to Europe when UK based airlines have capacity? Surely Goldensun have to at least approach UK based airlines first before offering out such contracts? Just curious........:p

Desk Driver 8th Jul 2002 15:15

Air Atlanta have been doing it for years!

VIKING9 8th Jul 2002 15:17

Yes, but their aircraft are leased to Excel and fly under their callsigns. Do Atlanta fly ex UK under their own callsigns?

Desk Driver 8th Jul 2002 15:23

Maybe not now But I'm sure they have in the past used their own CC flight numbers. etc or am I confusing that with Air Ops.

VIKING9 8th Jul 2002 16:00

ah ha, Yes Air Ops indeed used CC out of the UK. Mind you, Air Ops, Transjet, Atlanta - all linked somewhere I'm sure of it.....:rolleyes:

OLNEY 1 BRAVO 8th Jul 2002 16:01

Icelandic Registered Aircraft
 
Viking 9 - Icelandic registered aircraft are allowable. Although Iceland is not a Member of the European Union, they are members of the European Economic Area and therefore can operate in the way they do.

Desk Driver 8th Jul 2002 16:12


Air Ops, Transjet, Atlanta - all linked somewhere I'm sure of it.....
The old connection used to be Goldcrest seat brokers. They used to have Cally / Peach in there as well, along with an A300 operator called "EUROPEAN" remember them? I think they were resposible for a short lived series on a Yak 42 or 50 something like that. (I as always stand to be corrected.) After JMC bought Inspirations Goldcrest shut down and some staff turned up at Excel Airways.

I must admit dropping one Stockholm based MD80 operator for another Stockholm based MD 80 operator is a little fishy to me. The only reason I can think of is that Capacity would not change.

I would love to know who Golden Sun by their seats from ?
My guess is "Will Flyit" is involved somwhere.

Brenoch 8th Jul 2002 16:50

Now, who can "Will Flyit" be?? :D :D :D :D

jetstream7 8th Jul 2002 16:52

Transjet lose out @ BRS too ?
 
There used to be a BRS Transjet flight to Corfu on a Monday - operated on a W pattern from somewhere else.

This has gone this week, been replaced by a Nordic Airlink flight - again same a/c type, same capacity....

I thought Transjet had been improving their reliability and timekeeping so is a case of the tour op closing the gate after the horse has bolted ?....

Fraudsquads 8th Jul 2002 17:02

I think you'll find that Nordic have always operated the BRS flight. SWL currently have a MD somewhere with a problem. Currently a 10 hour delay expected arriving from Skiathos/Thessalonika into LGW.

The sooner Goldensun realise the value of using a UK operator where levels of service can be delivered as expected the better.

Rule Britannia!!!

FS

Bengt Engel 8th Jul 2002 17:14

nothing wrong with the patriotism amongst the UK guys...

by the way, is "Will Flyit" from the UK?

chiglet 8th Jul 2002 17:15

Air Atlanta have operated under their own C/S [ABD] for yonks:)
we aim to please, it keeps the cleaners happy

jetstream7 8th Jul 2002 17:31

Fraudsquads

From what I understand there are 3 flights on a monday to corfu from BRS
These were split, one each, between MyTravel, Nordic Airlink and Transjet.
There are still 3 flights, but now Nordic Airlink are operating two of them and Transjet none.

Quite right on Transjet's Skiathos performance today - presume it has gone tech down route as it was reported due on time or early earlier today...

And, yes I agree, if there is spare UK capacity then it should be used rather than from elsewhere - though of course now we get into the question of economics...
Goldensun (or at least their customers) are discovering good value for money doesn't always equal cheapest

Bengt Engel 8th Jul 2002 17:45

hmmm, aren't britannia German these days?

Flightrider 8th Jul 2002 20:39

I see the Transjet Stansted unit also seems to be being replaced by a Futura 737-400, not before one or two tour operators of reasonable repute had jumped ship.

Is this the end of this sorry episode of a tour operator preferring to take cheap, crap aircraft for which its customers suffer? It's about time that someone in the UK managed to make a business work on the basis of a summer-only airline so that we don't have to suffer these aircraft of dubious repute appearing under cover of darkness in time for the 1 May season kick-off every year.

transjet 8th Jul 2002 21:15

It would assist if the facts were correct before posting anything on here, yes the the GS programme in MAN has gone to MD airlines.

If anyone wants to ask anything our email address is available but would appreciate you keep any crap to yourselves

Transjet UK

Fraudsquads 8th Jul 2002 21:51

Well Transjet I would suggest you may be the best to deliver the facts.

Will someone else deliver them or should we wait until tomorrow?

I'm not normally one to critisize but your post does little to address the points raised.

FS

VIKING9 9th Jul 2002 07:34

........and Transjet, the facts are ?????

Flightrider 9th Jul 2002 07:42

Okay, okay - so maybe "crap" was a bit strong. But it's fair to say that they haven't exactly excelled themselves whilst operating the summer programme thusfar. Transjet, are you planning to continue flying the LGW programme until the end of the season?

Hudson Bay 9th Jul 2002 08:32

What about BHX? I am supposed to be going to Rhodes tommorow, are Transjet still operating for Golden Sun? I wish I had not booked with them now! But they were very cheap!!!

irishcc 9th Jul 2002 09:02

Hey Guys

MD Airlines are currently operating a large IT program from DUB this summer, all on the MD83 - they are operating for AviaJet, along side Air Atlanta Icelandic, with the nice shiney new 767-300ER.

Both companies operate independently, however, all Ops and Crewing for MD, on a day to day basis, is controlled by Atlanta here in Dublin - Atlanta also seem to provide majority of the cabin crew for MD.

Both companies are maintaining good "on time performance" for the DUB operation - and AviaJet, the aircraft contractor - seems to be quite happy so far.

I am sure MD will do a great job in MAN - and hopefully LGW too !

Flickroll 9th Jul 2002 10:50

Had the misfortune to fly with TJet ex MAN two weeks ago (wife booked it while I was away down route!). 24 hours before departure return flight re-scheduled from 1300 to 2300 after paying day flight premium. Checked-in to face a four hour delay due no crew - which eventually turned into 7 hours - crew delayed on motorway (? 7pm Saturday!).

Return one week later- only discovered from hotel guest rumours that flight delayed until 0400 next day (merged subcharter)- eventually left KGS 0630.

On arrival MAN, LGW pax (now 24 hours late) told over airport PA that the coaches would stop half way so that 'they could buy their own refreshments!!

Been in the charter business for nearly 30 years and thought I'd seen every gash outfit until this. Good riddance.

Those, Transjet UK ARE the facts. Perhaps you'll come down from your ivory tower and explain them.

b747 flightboy 9th Jul 2002 11:46

viking 9
air ops was owned by thomas johanssen, who now owns transjet and incidently was (maybe still is) flying as a captain for air atlanta, who incidently were doing ops for swl last year.

;)

Wing Commander Fowler 9th Jul 2002 12:54

Oh dear Oh dear...... there's never a "Knold" around when you need one ......... hehe

Knold 9th Jul 2002 12:56

Isn't there?

VIKING9 9th Jul 2002 13:22

Mr Transjet has gone awfully quiet....... maybe they have a delay going on somewhere:p

Bengt Engel 9th Jul 2002 14:56

aaaaaaa, the wonderfull knold is back...

VIKING9 9th Jul 2002 16:22

So apart from Goldensun, are there other tour operators who use Transjet? I assume Futura are doing the Spanish program for Goldensun or is it just a one off ?

rentaghost 9th Jul 2002 16:25

Strong rumours round the track that TJ have just had their AOC pulled by the Swedish Authorities and are grounded.

Any more on this?

VIKING9 9th Jul 2002 16:47

Mmmmm I heard the same - and from a VERY reliable source...

Hudson Bay 10th Jul 2002 09:02

Yes it is true. Just turned up to go to Rhodes from BHX and was told Transjet's AOC has been withdrawn. Looks like I will be holidaying in sunny Birmingham!!!!!


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