Can't see BA dumping LGW-JER. It's always rammed and suggestion is that it's one of the most profitable routes on the network.
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frank & simon
Points well made. I don't think BA would give up the Gatwick route, but if they decided to operate ex LHR they would, hopefully, operate more than 2 services per day. This might impact on the LGW loads - certainly, a lot of the Jersey originating pax would prefer LHR. This might persuade them to reduce the LGW operation - or even withdraw it. But, as frank says, a 3rd. R/W at LHR might lead to EZY operating from there also. Exciting times - in 10 years time, or so ! |
With Gatwick starting to stagnate for easyJet in terms of new routes, what routes are missing out of the network that could be viable to operate. Would operating to Cape Verde be too much of a long flight for EZY?
Also with the success of the Manchester route for Hainan Airlines, could we see Hainan operating LGW-PEK in the future? |
Re. Hainan, I believe the Chines have a one carrier per route rule and CA have the Beijing/London route
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Originally Posted by pwalhx
(Post 9474217)
Re. Hainan, I believe the Chines have a one carrier per route rule and CA have the Beijing/London route
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Surprisingly I am aware that LHR and LGW are different airports, hence I referred to the Beijing/London route, the rule being for City pairs.
Air China could operate to Gatwick as well as Heathrow as they are the designated carrier to London. |
With some of the summer schedules starting to be released and a handful of new routes being announced, what are the most likely routes that could be on the cards for S17 from UK airports?
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Anymore route speculation?
I have these in mind for easyJet: Luton-Oslo Luton-Kraków Luton-Dalaman Luton-Athens Stansted-Paris (CDG/ORY) Stansted-Zurich Gatwick-Reus Gatwick-Eindhoven Gatwick-Warsaw Manchester-Lanzarote Manchester-Faro Manchester-Rome (Fiumicino) Feel free to share your thoughts and add any more routes you feel would be logical and viable for airlines to operate. |
Avgeek1,
Food for thought there! Easyjet wont touch the Scaninavian volume routes, has never been attractive. Eastern Europe is Wizz turf and Ryanair too competing in the general London market makes the suggested route to Krakow unlikely... They now do Southend Paris, highly unlikely they'd put an STN on aswell. They've had a very mixed relationship with ZRH, axing their operation before, and then only resuming an LGW route upon foot of Aer Lingus's entry to the market. Einhoven was one of the few Aer Lingus routes that easyJet didn't jump into, do I'm sure they've ran the rule over it. The MAN options would sound more likely. Turkey is expected to grow next year, so perhaps! EasyJet play it very safe and dont take big gambles with share holders money... so if Wizz, Ryanair, Norwegian are in town, or indeed Vueling, easyJet are unlikely to open routes there ... |
Have thought about Luton - Oslo, and although they have just started Luton - Stockholm, I think that one is unlikely. Krakow is well served by Katowice, and easy dropped Athens years ago as it didnt perform. Dalaman is also getting a bump next year with an extra THomson service.
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Originally Posted by pwalhx
(Post 9474217)
Re. Hainan, I believe the Chines have a one carrier per route rule and CA have the Beijing/London route
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In the twelve months since I wrote that comment undoubtedly things have changed.
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Originally Posted by EI-BUD
(Post 9861065)
Avgeek1,
Food for thought there! Easyjet wont touch the Scaninavian volume routes, has never been attractive. Eastern Europe is Wizz turf and Ryanair too competing in the general London market makes the suggested route to Krakow unlikely... They now do Southend Paris, highly unlikely they'd put an STN on aswell. They've had a very mixed relationship with ZRH, axing their operation before, and then only resuming an LGW route upon foot of Aer Lingus's entry to the market. Einhoven was one of the few Aer Lingus routes that easyJet didn't jump into, do I'm sure they've ran the rule over it. The MAN options would sound more likely. Turkey is expected to grow next year, so perhaps! EasyJet play it very safe and dont take big gambles with share holders money... so if Wizz, Ryanair, Norwegian are in town, or indeed Vueling, easyJet are unlikely to open routes there ... Kraków isnt even served by Wizz, and is growing significantly recently, and Krakow is served from many U.K. airports successfully and Luton is the biggest one without a Kraków link. I do think Stansted is such a strange set up for easyJet, minimal growth has been seen and with Jet2 now at Stansted it makes easyJet more worthless. As I have said before they need to move routes like Bilbao & Asturias to Gatwick/Luton and serve Amsterdam, Belfast & Edinburgh from these bases instead of from a Stansted base. easyJet have been slowly but surely filling the gaps at Manchester with recent additions including Paris, Milan, Kraków, Porto etc. |
I'd like to see a route from Copenhagen to somewhere east of the Pennines - LBA, EMA or DSA. Currently there's only Newcastle.
I fly CPN-MAN regularly and there are always high loads on the many Easyjet /SAS flights. I think there's room for one more connection from the North. Wizz DSA-MMX might work |
Stansted is more convenient than Luton for a significant amount of London. For example, there isn't a single traffic light, and rarely much delay, between Canary Wharf and the Stansted Terminal frontage. Even the road coaches from Victoria go out this way. In contrast the M1 to Luton can be quite unpredictable for journey time, and a tedious challenge to get to in the first place.
Way back when Go had a good selection of routes from Stansted they built up a significant following. I think quite a bit of it was London business traffic siphoned from Heathrow (a significant number of suits in the 7am departures), which set the BA rivalries going and eventually led to the demand for a sale. Easy never seemed to capitalise on this, and where I was making quite a bit of use of Go, and the early Easyjet operations, it has progressively fallen away. |
Manston to Outer Space
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Originally Posted by AvGeek1
(Post 9861553)
Kraków isnt even served by Wizz, and is growing significantly recently, and Krakow is served from many U.K. airports successfully and Luton is the biggest one without a Kraków link. Ryanair............... predominantely Poles to KTW from STN / 50-50 to Krakow Easyjet.............. predominantely Brits to KRK from LGW That is my experience of the routes..................... course flights never been on or friends not travelled on may be different. Love to know the real Stats. |
The real issue with Ryanair routes is they can seem to get dumped arbitrarily.
I can remember when Stansted to Prestwick was 10 flights a day, albeit with a 737-200. More than one I took was 100% full. Yet that route has gone completely. I also still miss the Stansted to Tampere, Finland route, I have to drive over to Heathrow, Finnair to Helsinki, then a 2 hour drive. That always seemed pretty full as well (mostly Finns, and in fact a notable number of Russians would drive from St Petersburg for it). That's gone. Tampere, Finland's second largest city, retains two Ryanair routes a few times a week to, of all places, Bremen in Germany and Budapest in Hungary. Just can't get that logic. |
easyJet have been slowly but surely filling the gaps at Manchester with recent additions including Paris, Milan, Kraków, Porto etc. |
Originally Posted by Johnny F@rt Pants
(Post 9862058)
But these weren't gaps, all those routes were already served ex MAN, as are the aforementioned routes to Lanzarote & Faro by every man and his dog, Rome Fiumicino up from 1 operator to 3 plus a service to Ciampino.
It is very difficult these days to launch a route in the European short haul market that is going to provide good return and loads that hasn't got another airline or more on it. easyJet have many routes out of Manchester that have many other airlines operating on them, such as Alicante which has 8 airlines operating in the summer season! Lanzarote & Faro are routes that would provide guaranteed volume especially in the summer and yield wouldn't be so bad either. |
Over the next couple of years I would expect some additional German routes as well as the possibility of CDG and or AMS to be served at NQY
I would also guess that cityflyer might look at it seasonally ex LCY on the S2000 or E70? The current network at NQY is doing very well on loads cs |
This is a partially compiled list of just some of the routes that have been speculated by people on this thread and have come to fruitation/ confirmed to be launching in W17/S18. This goes to show that route speculation isn't all nonsense, even though I agree some can be quite stupid!
Luton-Tenerife (easyJet) Luton-Stockholm Luton-Dubrovnik Luton-Marseille Luton-Isle of Man Luton-Florence Luton-Valencia Gatwick-Fort Lauderdale Gatwick-Las Vegas (Norwegian) Glasgow-Brussels Glasgow-Madrid Manchester-San Francisco Manchester-Los Angeles Manchester-Singapore (Direct) Manchester-Seville Birmingham-Valencia Birmingham-Porto Birmingham-Stockholm Birmingham-Vienna Birmingham-Cluj Napoca Birmingham-Florence Leeds-Newquay Leeds-Berlin Newcastle-Madrid Newcastle-Gdansk Newcastle-Warsaw Aberdeen-Alicante Cardiff-Berlin Any viable and realistic routes you think could operate currently, please share! |
Dublin to Beijing.
Shouldn't be too far down the line. |
With a Dash based at Cardiff now I think Rennes could be a good possibility for summer 18 with Flybe. With maybe Nice as an E jet route. Prague would be a great addition as well.
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Originally Posted by Jerry123
(Post 9863240)
With a Dash based at Cardiff now I think Rennes could be a good possibility for summer 18 with Flybe. With maybe Nice as an E jet route. Prague would be a great addition as well.
PRG would also be a welcomed return |
Birmingham - Bergamo
Birmingham - Helsinki Birmingham - Iasi Birmingham - Marseille Birmingham - Oslo Birmingham - Riga Birmingham - Seville Birmingham - Zagreb |
New Routes for airports
I have gone through the lists, but nowhere is East Midlands Airport mentioned, have we been forgotten does nobody want to fly from Ema, we do more than F1 & Cargo:sad::}:\
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