GLASGOW-2
 

This thread replaces GLASGOW which has disappeared but a cached version can be found here http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=uk for anyone who wants to look up an old post.

Picky, I know, but the convention is to separate the subject and ordinal with a hyphen, e.g. "GLASGOW - 2". Might be worth doing that before the thread gets populated.

Easyjet to fly to MRS (June-Sep)

presume MRS (odd choice given the glaring network gaps) us to replace RAK?

According to Cheap Flight News, FlyBE will be dropping Bournemouth from 6th January, due to an aircraft being withdrawn from Bournemouth

no great loss there. Always seemed doomed. One wonders who dreams up these pairings in the first place. A bit like EDI-LPL.

Have you used CrossCountry trains?

I expect the 4000 or so passengers who were using the route every month may disagree! Seems a shame to me as passenger numbers appeared to be growing nicely but obviously don't know the yield. Any chance of it returning for Summer 2016?

April 3164
May 3799
June 3927
July 4716
August 4474

LT

I remember the 1st ever GLA-BOU flights over a decade ago operated by the then Scotjet? Did it really use a BAC 1-11?

It was called Euroscot Express if I remember. Flew to EDI too and sometimes BOH-EDI-GLA-BOH

GLASGOW
 

Councils to seek City Deal funding for a tram-train rail link at Glasgow Airport

A RAIL link between between Glasgow Airport and the city centre "could be operation by 2025" with funding from the City Deal.

Link

Great news for Glasgow Airport but for the rail link to be used to its full potential it would be better if Glasgow Crossrail was built. Also for me to use it there would have to be a direct link to Ayrshire.

Glasgow Crossrail already exists (although not called "crossrail"):
Helensburgh-Partick-Glasgow Queen Street (Low Level)-Livingston-Edinburgh.

It's the Crossrail linking the south west of Scotland to the east and north east that should be a priority, that involves the laying of IIRC something like 500yds of track near High Street.

Thanks LFT, that was the Crossrail I meant. If the rail link was just a service from Central Station to Glasgow Airport via Paisley that would limit the number pf passengers who would be prepared to use it. Opening up the line at High Street would mean the possibility of trains from Edinburgh, Stirling, Perth and Aberdeen. For me to be tempted to leave my car at home there would have to be a direct link from Ayrshire.

The Transport Scotland report endorsing the new link assumes that most passengers' final destination is Glasgow city centre and so dismisses Scotland's Crossrail as irrelevant. Does anybody know statistics for GLA passenger origin/destination?

I think Transport Scotland are being a wee bit short sighted. Surely if Crossrail got the go ahead then this would encourage more passengers to use Glasgow Airport who might otherwise have flown from elsewhere.

Anyone know the purpose of this flight?

I have seen it several times before and always late at night, a training flight?

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On the flip side, the more people who travel by train means less revenue from car parks.

It's Gama Aviation's Hawker 1000 which is based at GLA.

Glasgow Airport Rail link should connect to the full rail network
 

Punch-up amongst the railway commentariat about the virtues of the proposed tram-train. In today's Herald Christian Wolmar points out that a heavy rail scheme fully connected to the rest of Scotland could be built for about the same price as a tram-train which only runs to overcrowded Glasgow Central station.

Mr Wolmar said: "Building a tram/train system to Glasgow Airport rather than a full rail link is a short term fix that will be poorly used and fails to address the main source of demand. Glasgow, as Scotland’s biggest city, needs an airport that is reached easily from around Scotland, not just Glasgow city centre."

He said council leaders should instead consider local transport campaigners' vision for a heavy rail link, known as NEWgarl, which they claim could be delivered for £137m.

Expert warns against "short-term fix" of tram-train rail link at Glasgow Airport (From Herald Scotland)

It has been clear since the re-birth of the Scottish Parliament and its civil service that their collective mission is to ensure that Edinburgh is Scotland's major hub.
Money is no object when it comes to Edinburgh projects such as unnecessary trams and bridges. But the Crossrail scheme might take traffic away from Edinburgh airport -although that has already been expanded out of its comfort zone.

Therefore it has little chance of being approved - however sensible a case can be made.

apart from spotters complaining about routes and pax no's at EDI im not sure it is 'clear' that all resources from SG are being directed to EDI is it? Sounds fanciful. Its the tourist nature of EDI that has aided its growth.

Indeed, SG resources are clearly being directed at (wasted at) Prestwick.

Absolutely , and anyone who thinks otherwise is in a prolonged state of denial !

Politics plays it's part, the centre of power has moved from Glasgow to Edinburgh on our lifetimes as the capital now sees itself, and is seen as major European city.
PIK is irrelevent as even with the sheer volume of money thrown at it, Ryanair still moved the bulk of their operation to GLA. However the idea of either airport as functioning hub is a misconception, Vernon Murphy et al found that out in the early 90s. They are loco bases and legacy spokes, the only hub in Scotland is Loganair at GLA and to a leser extend EDI.

It seems like yesterday they shelved the GARL, it's becoming our own railtrack version of LHR #3 IMHO.

Well, good luck with mixing trains and trams on the same rails. If it's ever been done before, I can't think where.

At the risk of thread drift I believe this does happen in Karlsruhe, and possibly some other German cities.

Tram-train's are operating in quite few EU countries already.

And by co-incidence the first Tram-train set for testing purposes in the UK arrived only a few days ago.

There are to be tests on the Sheffield network with an extension over the Network Rail lines from Meadowhall into Rotherham in around a years time.

The main concerns of the rail industry are potential crash resistance and tyre wear as rails have differing profiles.

On satisfactory completion of tests the Manchester system may move forward to converting a number of suburban routes from heavy rail to Tram-train.

All irrelevant to Glasgow through.

Anyone know the status of Virgin LAS flights from GLA next Autumn? Was it a one off this year, or has TCX taken what is a relatively limited market?

Here is the little Hawker Beechcraft 1000 again

This flight happens about once a week, out from Glasgow GLA and over top of Ireland and back in a loop, anyone know what it is doing?

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Can anyone explain why this thread disappeared?

Scodaman. TLA VOR has been replaced. It needs to be calibrated. I'm guessing that is what this flight is doing.

Can anyone shed any light on what's going on in the departures area?
It's been a building site for quite a few months now.
The blue boarded up shops extend all the way along the whole wall of this part of the terminal.
It's all a bit dismal.
Is there a new restaurant opening where Frankie and bennys used to be?

Utterly bizarre use of a tram train. I thought the accepted logic was that you use them on proper rails outside the most congested routes, and that they then go on-road once in city centres where the railways have capacity problems that would be difficult to solve / inconveniently sited stations?

I am wondering why options for building a new station near the end of the runway (M8/A737 interchange area) and build an air rail link similar to that of Birmingham Airport. the distance seems to be around the same. Appreciate it would need to go over/under the motorway but surely doing something like that would be better than this odd tram/train idea.
The trains between Glasgow and Greenock are pretty frequent to make this work.

AirFrance daily flight to CDG with Airbus318 starting March 27th


Timetable:


AF1056 CDG 07:30-08:15 GLA 318 D
AF1057 GLA 09:00-11:50 CDG 318 D

Air France from March 2016
 

Air France launching GLA-CDG in March 2016 with daily A318, morning departure.

Third time lucky?
In fairness, the last try with British European operating CRJs was killed by Ryanair on PIK-CRL, this harks back to the original AF924 / 921 operation where the mainline B732 used to overnight in ABZ and depart GLA early morning. And now I feel old(er).

Wonder how this will impact on easyJet?

Thats a great new route. Slightly different market, so will have minimal impact on EZY service. I cant imagine the environment AF last operated in to GLA is the same as it is now...