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Naali 9th Jan 2015 01:42

For Fair Weather Flyer,Saab was built to withstand and operate in northern weather,much like DHC machines. ( ah,De Havilland ) .Surely corrosion etc. were not the main design problems,but that bird seems to gain much,when time shows it`s abilities. ..and if i may add,Swedes have always had trouble in timing. Too much too soon,in a way. - and not to consider me as a salesman, Falcon reminds me of something. Ah,Dassault.

Naali 9th Jan 2015 02:00

Pics just make me wonder,that it must be pretty soft peat around there,if Dowties (if i remember right,havent`got a manual at hand) ,can dig themselves as deep as they are. No one hurt,plane repairable with minor damage. Many airports today,might be better off,having a look at that.

parkfell 9th Jan 2015 09:07

Hola DB6

If memory serves, 52 kts was a JAR limitation. (Tailwind on the rudder?)
Cannot recall any manufacture's max figure, although a figure of 75 kts was banded about, 10 years ago.

I have tried landings in 'serious' crosswinds in the FTEJerez 737-800 sim. Fun and a great confidence boosting exercise for the more competent student. The "Q" seats are very realistic. :)

Blowy down here last night in Sunny Troon.

OntimeexceptACARS 9th Jan 2015 23:56

Lucky the Saabs don't do overnight mail flights :

090150Z AUTO 26069G92KT 2000 -RA BKN015/// 05/04 Q0973 EGPO

Even inside a well chocked Saab at SYY that would be interesting!

Maisk Rotum 14th Jan 2015 12:03

65 knot limit for 40 year old aircraft in Sumburgh
 
The mighty Vickers Viscount with 4 noise converters for engines had an indirectly contractual limit of 65 knots when operating into Sumburgh. Reason? The self loading freight had to then get on a helo and land offshore on the North Sea rigs. At that wind speed, apart from equipment, even people get blown over.

At "gusting to 73" from tower it certainly gets your attention and reminds you to get that control lock in early.

Wind additives on final were arbitrary and both pilots simply went with what they felt comfortable with. NB; pre FOQA/QAR

But the job was done.

hector 14th Jan 2015 19:38

The strongest wind I ever landed in was 70kts in a Viscount at LSI. What was unusual about it was the steady speed and direction. All down the approach the reported winds were 270/69......270/71.....270/70 .....and so on. No gusting and very smooth all the way down albeit with a very slow ground speed!

It was the closest to a laminar flow wind I ever experienced. I suppose blowing at that speed and direction from the Atlantic to the North Sea with only the southern tip of the Shetland Isles in the way, it was maybe to be expected.

The landing was naturally on R/W 27 which the Viscount didn't use very often, the longer 33/15 usually being preferred.

The landing itself was uneventful but the subsequent ground handling was a bit more of a challenge!

Aerostar6 14th Jan 2015 21:24

Ah! The highlands! My first sector to EGPO was gusting 70kt. We came to a halt on the pan, the skipper closed the throttles (Budgie being a Brit aircraft) and we started going backwards. For ever after I have always boasted that we had to open the throttles to set the park brake!

We also "self handled" in BA Highland division, and I can often remember throwing 10kg bundles of newspapers out of the cargo hold towards the baggage truck and having them blown back into the a/c by gusts in Shetland..........followed by a convivial evening in the Shetland Social Club............

dfstrottersfan 15th Jan 2015 13:22

I am SLF

many landings at Wick in Viscounts - a great plane.

Once after 3 attempts to come in upwind over the fields of Caithness we were on a divert to Orkney because of poor visibility ahead, we could see the airfield but .......

Anyway the pilot did a downwind landing from the sea , guess the fog was on the other end of the runway. It was quite breezy and an experience; never landed downwind since. [that I know off]


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