Jet2 like a dabble with the odd transatlantic- thought they might of been interested in MAN/BOS. It's only a few hundred miles more than a Sharm El Sheikh.
Although, obviously a hub carrier with connections would make it more viable.
Don't know if they(LAX / BOS ) still appear in the TCX drop down menu, but they are not bookable, so a bit late for a spring launch now if they are still on the cards- do they even have the spare capacity?

I noticed a planning application is in for an 8 storey Hilton Inn Airport City !

Anybody know the exact location ?

Is it near the other hotels near M56 OR further round near the centre ?

It'll be joining the bus / train station.

This isn't really news Bagso. It was featured in the MEN last March. Manchester Airport City hotel: 350-bedroom hotel would be run by Hilton group - Manchester Evening News


See also http://www.publicaccess.manchester.g...1-dsx-0001.pdf which shows the location.

Many thanks it was put in so long ago I had forgotten !

IF you want quote "real news" check the M E N who have now reported the SAUDIA story but NOT the denials in those tweets that Ringwayman quoted !

SAUDI spokesperson

"I have never ever talked to any media on this or any other related issues ..Totally false and fabrication"

Clearly we do not want to bury bad news, maybe they were testing the water BUT this appears a total misquote !

Its a fledgling service for Manchester maybe the reporter could have dug a bit deeper AND quoted the denials before lighting the touch paper and leaving the story to gather momentum.

oh dear "Check the M E N "....maybe I should rephrase that !

Agreed, the only way it might happen is if AA (with BA codeshare on the joint venture) loses market share to VS, perhaps in the event, that given the choice, pax specifically want to use a UK carrier.

But how likely is that?

Judging from the comments above, there appears to be potential for increased trans-Atlantic activity at Ringway.

Good, it's about time. Perhaps VS at Ringway will be a catalyst.

Maybe Ringway managment need to spend more time on route development and less on fretting about Heathrow expansion??


It’s not about LHR slots for BA, BA has adequate slots and actually needs longhaul aircraft, so don’t see EI’s LHR slots being asset-stripped in the event of a purchase by IAG.

It’s more strategic than that: it’s more to do with preventing the competition acquiring these slots and asset-stripping them from EI.

The above-mentioned company is headquartered in Spain. Spain or Ireland, what’s the difference from the government’s point of view? and how is this related to Heathrow expansion?

Yes, more feed would be essential and BE appear to be in prime position....

Fairfealfrank,

In terms of the mention of IAG asset stripping, firstly to say the Dublin Heathrow is a very strong market in terms of traffic and one of the busiest European routes. Hence, I don't think we need to worry about Aer Lingus' slots. However, increased size in aircraft on EI services on Dublin London could release BA's own slots (from the Dublin route) that could be deployed onto their own long haul routes.

Equally BHD the same applies.

Ei- bud

Or Aer Lingus', remember when it was assumed BA would drop DUB after getting BMI and just codeshare with EI? In a more commercial environment, the current SNN-LHR just doesn't work, it's the EI equivalent of BA's LHR-LBA. The first inbound to London is useless for point to point. Depending on how much feed BA get from ORK/SNN/BHD with EI, they might be better of at LGW....in commercial terms. They are of course knee deep in local politics.

However an IAG owned Aer lingus would surely be a more aggresive entiity at MAN, even to the extent of feeding American's exisiting MAN operation as overflow from DUB.

Not to sound like a mod, but let's not lose track of the subject of the thread...Manchester :ok:

BA don't have enough long-haul aircraft at the moment hence the more touristy destinations being launched by them out of LHR.

Sorry eggc,
I was unaware of where I was when I responded!!! :ok:

Indeed, but have suggested exactly the opposite: that IAG would not asset-strip EI LHR slots for BA becasuse BA doesn't need any more LHR slots, it needs longhaul aircraft.

BA will be getting 9 more LHR slot pairs anyway later this year when no other carrier takes over from VS on LHR-EDI and LHR-ABZ.

Another buyer of EI, on the other hand, would want the slots, and as mentioned by Skipness One Echo, some of the LHR slots currently used by EI on ORK-LHR, BHD-LHR, and particularly SNN-LHR could be asset-stripped.


Yes, covering all the bases.

Exactly.


Good point, and some of us probably don't want slagging off by a troll on
another forum.

Hey, no need to apologise...just didn't want the MAN thread locking again :ok:

With all the speculation about possible AA/BA and DL/VS moves at MAN, lets not forget there's also a third dog in the fight - UA and Star Alliance.

I'm sure UA/Star will be watching with interest for any sign of a developing turf war between VS/DL and AA/BA at MAN. Particularly so now that Little Red, UA's current preferred feeder carrier from MAN (and Scotland) to LHR is about to disappear.

I doubt UA/Star will be too thrilled at the prospect of their top tier MileagePlus members having to fly on BA to LHR to connect with UA. Currently most of their alternative non-direct options from the UK regions to the USA involve a time consuming backhaul via FRA, BRU or the like. So in the absence of any replacement for Little Red, might UA also consider beefing up service to their US hubs from MAN and the regions ??

There are a lot of ifs and buts but making very interesting times. Flybe could be holding a trump card because if they stay non aligned things
could get very interesting indeed.
Now all that has to be done is the new terminal and we have places to park everyone.

Hi Nigel,

I had written a big long post about Saudia and KSA in general, but decided to keep it simple. My family has worked for Saudia for a long time, and what those who should know say is that the story is typical tabloid tosh. Apparently they are planning to change the seating allocation to allow families to sit together easier (typical Sauds will neither OLCI nor preassign seats). There are similar accounts on other forums.

I doubt Saudia will issue a statement themselves, PR isn't really their strong suit.

Of course this isn't a credible source since you don't know me from Adam, so make your own mind up. :)

Indeed, CO, now part of UA, have a long tradition of running flights from the UK "regions" to its EWR hub. BFS, BHX, BRS, EDI, GLA, and MAN have all had, or still have, these links.

Yes, BE could clean up here. Theoretically, it could codeshare with all 3 alliances.

Rail / Air
 

Had a smile when I watched this Rail-Fly - Singapore Airlines
Wonder if Singapore has thought of teaming up with Northern Rail to offer the unique chance of a through ticket from Southport to Changi on a 35 year old Pacer train?:) via MAN

Rail / Fly
 

Ah yes - maybe SQ could reintroduce Boeing 707s to match the age of some of the trains, for that authentic 1970's experience. Now that would definitely be worth the price of a through ticket !!

Armodeen,


Thanks for the update, and I certainly have no reason to doubt your words, media hype again then.


Nigel

Can't remember last time I saw a THY 321/320/737...it's been 2 x 330's everyday now for quite a while...they must be doing well and little wonder its going 3 daily soon.

THY back to 2xA321 from tomorrow.

Emirates Upgauge?
 

Just planning a trip MAN-BKK in late Feb and was checking prices on EK website.
Surprised to see that the EK19/20 rotation (the evening flight leaving MAN) is showing as an A380!!
Bit of fiddling around with their website shows first departing service on the A380 to be Sunday 1st Feb and last departing service to be Saturday 28rd March (which I think is the end of the winter timetable?)
Is this a glitch, old news or am I on to something here??
Thanks

Yes, showing an A380 for a couple of dates I tried in March.

Interesting as isn't this when EY have extra capacity with a B777 on their morning flight (as well as the later one), before reverting to the A332?

Great news about the 2nd A380.
I wonder if this will turn permanent or if there is just a spare A380 for a few weeks like the last time the EK19/20 was upgraded.

Well, even if it's only temporary, it's an eight week upgauge, which is a hell of a lot longer than the last one!
Does seem a coincidence that it ends precisely at the end of the IATA Northern Hemisphere winter timetable period. Hopefully more good news may be forthcoming soon or as you say, the aircraft reverts elsewhere for the summer period.

MAN facebook group reporting that DHL have slots for a 5 weekly 757 flight to Leipzig. Arrives 0215 and departs 2145 so day stops at MAN.

Emirates second daily A380
 

This is on Airline route

"Emirates from 01FEB15 is expanding capacity on Dubai – Manchester route, with the addition of 2nd daily Airbus A380 operation, on EK019/020. Planned schedule as follow.

EK021 DXB0300 – 0700MAN 77W D
EK017 DXB0720 – 1120MAN 388 D
EK019 DXB1435 – 1835MAN 388 D

EK022 MAN0845 – 1945DXB 77W D
EK018 MAN1320 – 0030+1DXB 388 D
EK020 MAN2025 – 0740+1DXB 388 D"

Fantastic news about the long awaited 2nd daily A380 :cool:

Really think EK could clean up with a 5th freedom flight onwards to the USA (BOS? LAX?) on a 772/3 if they could get the rights.

Why clean up? They'd be point to point only against the US network carriers who feed on elsewhere. Worth remembering just how much US traffic is connecting to the House of Mouse out of the regions.

Wasn't the second A380 planned for this for a while? All good news though, unless you're EY/QR/TK of course.

Emirates already hold 5th freedom to the USA from MAN.

Not sure how accurate this is but another website is reporting MAN is getting FCO's EK95 A380 with that flight reverting to a 77W.

I think most seen this coming however the cargo loss could be quite large.

If the cargo loss is going to be significant, how likely is Manchester to see a dedicated freighter from EK at some stage soon ?




cs

Surely the big news here is timing !

this isnt for 2016
Or late 2015
its not even 3 months

It's wait for it 3 weeks ............BOOM !

No wonder a few airlines are suddenly taking notice of the Manchester market !

Bagso
Old news if you look at previous posts. Good to see confirmation of those numerous conversations I have had with CSD over the last few years about the use of 380 on this evening service. If the tipping point was with the delightful Russian CSD pre Christmas, who was very interested in my comments when talking at the "Bar" for an 1/2 hour (and promised to take up the line with management ) then thank you! Short PS though. Please do not forget that on 380 WHEN travelling with Mrs Mac we fly separately as we BOTH like window seats and do not want to be "together" in the middle of the plane when seats were specifically booked separately - we are adults and know what we want ! Good to see the extra capacity though service in my humble opinion was always good or better on 777 due to crew ratio.


Regards
Mr Mac

I am missing something here. Everyone seems to be talking about this being a permanent change whereas I thought it was only for February and March at least for the time being.

Re Emirates

Routes normally issue a start / end date for temp flights.

Must confess I read the Routes feed first as a start date but with no end date so personally I assumed permanent ?

Good to see the M E N issue a substantial retraction re SAUDIA !

Reading various other sources it is apparent that the evening 380 was scheduled for later in the year. It has however been brought forward to February by taking one of the two 380 rotations off FCO.

EY reverts to double daily 77W for most of Feb/Mar, QR increases frequency to double daily from February, and now Emirates upgrades EK19/20 to A380 in the same month ! A case of keeping up with the Jones' perhaps ?;)

The new DHL freighter service is also a very good development for the airport if the reported slot filing becomes a reality

Just before everyone gets too carried away..........
Emirates website today still shows the last operational A380 date as 28th March on EK19/20.
As Pallan pointed out, the aircraft is being 'robbed', er I mean swapped from the Rome FCO 95/96 rotation. That route goes 777-300ER from beginning of Feb till end of March then reverts back to A380 ops according to their booking engine.
It seems strange they updated their website yesterday for just 2 months extra A380 service at MAN unless that is their actual intention???........