Walsh gets his Vueling
 

So the stockholders of VLG have sold their independence to the masters in charge at IAG. Shame on them. First Iberia now Vueling. Goodbye to what once was and never will be again:mad: Too bad spain is lacking self-esteem and becoming a mere shadow of its former aeronautical glory.
Pathetic.

Walsh gets his Vueling
 

Bye bye Iberia

'Vueling will be a standalone company within IAG'

Anyone who uses BCN regularly will already know that mainline IB flights are as rare as hens teeth, and have been for some time.
VLG run the IB shorthaul network with codeshared flights.

Also, Iberia Express will be rebranded as Vueling... Iberia's new shorthaul is LCC.... :rolleyes:

Spanish "aeronautical glory?"

A shot across the bow of IB employees, either sit down at the table and start talking or IB will be wound up. Smart move on IAG's part.

Yes, their world class ATC for a start...

British Airways must be happy as they continue taking their part of the sweet cake and expanding in Spain. Meanwhile...unemployment is rising 27% and Unions related to Iberia such as SEPLA which is in both Iberia and Vueling are agree with the situation. Once more Spain is solving the problems of the others, British Airways.

Why are people blaming WW/IAG? Surely the blame should be put squarely at the shoulders of the Vueling board and share holders? Aren't they the ones that have given IAG the :ok:?

They probably have instructions from their union to cause as much havoc on social networking sites to divert the attention away from the real problem.

That's the fun over with then? No more armed escorts into European hubs, no more turning back to base after finding swiss army knives - who is going to provide us with the next round of laughs?

Hopefully something good will come of this. Jesus knows we have enough god forsaken lack of quality in the Spanish market.

Cynical, but probably true!

What an interesting statement.

I know that a great deal of venom has been directed at BA by Iberia staff there is also an enormous amount of untrue propaganda being spread as well.

Perhaps you could expand your argument with some facts and figures in order that those not directly involved can understand what you are referring to when you say that Spain is solving the problems of others.

I have no axe to grind but from my observations there is a worldwide trend happening of long established legacy airline staff having to adapt or die. None of us may like it but like King Canute trying to hold back the tide I would suggest that trying to prevent the changes necessary is ultimately impossible.

I'm not sure NEWYEAR IS blaming BA.

In a post from 18 months ago, when he referred to 'WE' in Iberia, he said:
Sounds like he puts the demise of IB down to poor planning and lies? Probably a fair comment?

I am sorry I must have misunderstood that sentence.

Lord Bracken please review some aeronautical history
 

L.B. Id highly suggest you review aeronautical archive ref: spains contribution to aviation. There are scores of historical achievements but Ill leave it to you to research before your retraction( hopefully. )
From the first east west crossing with the Plus Ultra, through Ciervos gyrocopter nonwithstanding that vacational holiday charter flights started from LEPA with a company called Spantax ( founderRudy Bay ) which gave way to many many other international operators in europe and beyond.
Spanish ATC ? Many gripes from mainly british posters. Me, I've yet to see a perfect world
out there but , you know, you guys lucked out that english was chosen as the aeronautical language of choice with spanishcoming a very close second . My point is pilots and controllers are victims of our pathetic ministerio de fomento and its bunker mentality.
I' ve pretty much flown the world so I can say nowhere is as bad as is said and usually not as good as many think.
What is not acceptable is your questioning spains gloriius aeronautical contribution to history.

Glorious Spanish aeronautical contributions to history? Now if you said American, or French, or German then I'd agree. But Spain?:confused:

The Spanish needed the Germans to sort out their auto industry, now it is the turn of the Brits to put IB into shape.

Vuelling and IB express are a good start, move all the shorthaul to those 2, turn them into a LCC and have IB focus on just longhaul to the markets that they are strong in (that's is few if any, but it can change)

They just need to sort out their service, fleet and attitude. IB ranks as one of the worst carriers in the world (as voted by their own pax).

Yes guys, the Spanish have contributed greatly to aeronautical history by building the first autogyro!

By the way, we invented the GYROSCOPIC ARTIFICIAL HORIZON (GYRO HORIZON).

CARLOS de HAYA (INVENTIONS)

Besides many other inventions, Lacierva ( Juan de la Cierva - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ) was a great engineer and airman.

Next time you before blamming spanish achievments, take a little review in google. Probably we will surprise you