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Old 24th Apr 2013, 07:04
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Walsh gets his Vueling

So the stockholders of VLG have sold their independence to the masters in charge at IAG. Shame on them. First Iberia now Vueling. Goodbye to what once was and never will be again Too bad spain is lacking self-esteem and becoming a mere shadow of its former aeronautical glory.
Pathetic.
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Old 24th Apr 2013, 08:04
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Walsh gets his Vueling

Bye bye Iberia
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Old 24th Apr 2013, 08:39
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'Vueling will be a standalone company within IAG'

Anyone who uses BCN regularly will already know that mainline IB flights are as rare as hens teeth, and have been for some time.
VLG run the IB shorthaul network with codeshared flights.
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Old 24th Apr 2013, 08:54
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Also, Iberia Express will be rebranded as Vueling... Iberia's new shorthaul is LCC....
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Old 24th Apr 2013, 09:02
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Spanish "aeronautical glory?"
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Old 24th Apr 2013, 10:10
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A shot across the bow of IB employees, either sit down at the table and start talking or IB will be wound up. Smart move on IAG's part.
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Old 24th Apr 2013, 12:23
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British Airways must be happy as they continue taking their part of the sweet cake and expanding in Spain. Meanwhile...unemployment is rising 27% and Unions related to Iberia such as SEPLA which is in both Iberia and Vueling are agree with the situation. Once more Spain is solving the problems of the others, British Airways.
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Old 24th Apr 2013, 12:39
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Why are people blaming WW/IAG? Surely the blame should be put squarely at the shoulders of the Vueling board and share holders? Aren't they the ones that have given IAG the ?

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Old 24th Apr 2013, 14:20
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Why are people blaming WW/IAG?
They probably have instructions from their union to cause as much havoc on social networking sites to divert the attention away from the real problem.
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Old 24th Apr 2013, 14:30
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That's the fun over with then? No more armed escorts into European hubs, no more turning back to base after finding swiss army knives - who is going to provide us with the next round of laughs?

Hopefully something good will come of this. Jesus knows we have enough god forsaken lack of quality in the Spanish market.
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Old 24th Apr 2013, 14:43
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Originally Posted by cldrvr
They probably have instructions from their union to cause as much havoc on social networking sites to divert the attention away from the real problem.
Cynical, but probably true!
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Old 24th Apr 2013, 18:44
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Too bad spain is lacking self-esteem and becoming a mere shadow of its former aeronautical glory.
What an interesting statement.

British Airways must be happy as they continue taking their part of the sweet cake and expanding in Spain. Meanwhile...unemployment is rising 27% and Unions related to Iberia such as SEPLA which is in both Iberia and Vueling are agree with the situation. Once more Spain is solving the problems of the others, British Airways.
I know that a great deal of venom has been directed at BA by Iberia staff there is also an enormous amount of untrue propaganda being spread as well.

Perhaps you could expand your argument with some facts and figures in order that those not directly involved can understand what you are referring to when you say that Spain is solving the problems of others.

I have no axe to grind but from my observations there is a worldwide trend happening of long established legacy airline staff having to adapt or die. None of us may like it but like King Canute trying to hold back the tide I would suggest that trying to prevent the changes necessary is ultimately impossible.
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Old 24th Apr 2013, 19:12
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I'm not sure NEWYEAR IS blaming BA.

In a post from 18 months ago, when he referred to 'WE' in Iberia, he said:
When planning work is not done now joins the game of lies. Iberia A340 aircraft that are removed for not being profitable, they are on other airlines. And even in the very Iberia A340 fleet continues to operate every day with a record occupancy.

And if that were not enough, why not accept the B777 offered by British to be operated for Iberia?

Poor planning and lies. But that's not the problem ...

The real problem is that there is no future, because there is no strategy for growth, there is no illusion or bosses to be leaders. Iberia is a patient who is dying in his own depression.

Workers have a duty to rebel against the leaders of Iberia to avoid a death foretold of the company. And like the angry, find the formula to organize and act against the management to change course Iberia suicide.
Sounds like he puts the demise of IB down to poor planning and lies? Probably a fair comment?

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Old 24th Apr 2013, 19:48
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Once more Spain is solving the problems of the others, British Airways.
I am sorry I must have misunderstood that sentence.
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Old 24th Apr 2013, 19:53
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Lord Bracken please review some aeronautical history

L.B. Id highly suggest you review aeronautical archive ref: spains contribution to aviation. There are scores of historical achievements but Ill leave it to you to research before your retraction( hopefully. )
From the first east west crossing with the Plus Ultra, through Ciervos gyrocopter nonwithstanding that vacational holiday charter flights started from LEPA with a company called Spantax ( founderRudy Bay ) which gave way to many many other international operators in europe and beyond.
Spanish ATC ? Many gripes from mainly british posters. Me, I've yet to see a perfect world
out there but , you know, you guys lucked out that english was chosen as the aeronautical language of choice with spanishcoming a very close second . My point is pilots and controllers are victims of our pathetic ministerio de fomento and its bunker mentality.
I' ve pretty much flown the world so I can say nowhere is as bad as is said and usually not as good as many think.
What is not acceptable is your questioning spains gloriius aeronautical contribution to history.
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Old 24th Apr 2013, 20:00
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Glorious Spanish aeronautical contributions to history? Now if you said American, or French, or German then I'd agree. But Spain?
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Old 24th Apr 2013, 20:35
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The Spanish needed the Germans to sort out their auto industry, now it is the turn of the Brits to put IB into shape.

Vuelling and IB express are a good start, move all the shorthaul to those 2, turn them into a LCC and have IB focus on just longhaul to the markets that they are strong in (that's is few if any, but it can change)

They just need to sort out their service, fleet and attitude. IB ranks as one of the worst carriers in the world (as voted by their own pax).
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Old 24th Apr 2013, 21:26
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Yes guys, the Spanish have contributed greatly to aeronautical history by building the first autogyro!
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Old 24th Apr 2013, 21:39
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By the way, we invented the GYROSCOPIC ARTIFICIAL HORIZON (GYRO HORIZON).

CARLOS de HAYA (INVENTIONS)

Besides many other inventions, Lacierva ( Juan de la Cierva - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ) was a great engineer and airman.

Next time you before blamming spanish achievments, take a little review in google. Probably we will surprise you
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Old 24th Apr 2013, 21:40
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My God, it' s true, ignorance abounds, runs rampant amongst the proudest
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