BHXDME.

Think it was Chaps 2011 who brought the 10% lower figure up,from duff CAA initial figures and me that stated it had actually gone up the last 2 months up to July,

So your comments better aimed at others re the razor blades ?? :=

Three months in a row increased figures, well done BHX and EK :D :ok:

Nigel

GayFriendly

In the good old days of the 707s routing SVO-ATQ-DEL-BOM (or something like that) I think the ratio was about 15 : 1 :D

Football Sponsorship
 

Coincidence that all three codeshare into BHX, or am I reading to much in to it?

Garuda is the Official Global Airline of Liverpool F.C., though I doubt we are about to see thrice weekly B777-300ER service between the 'Pool and Jakarta. :cool:

Nigel
 

Apologies for the late reply: I was away - I do not follow the EK figs that closely (an SLF) Re posts 904 and the earlier reply. But for personal reasons I do foll0w the progress at BHX:

I'm glad that the actual revised figures are infinitely better yjan those originally posted

From memory there were other gaps in the original stats too.

Berlin comes to memory.

You do have to wonder how the provisional stats were prepared/

And thanks for the valid point about the previous iwo months.


CAT III

Edit: Re the eight airports some 200 miles apart. Some other long haul airlines must be hurting if EK are growing like this ?

Well, maybe not Jakarta but I hear that Bali is the latest up and coming holiday hotspot for those on Merseyside! :)

Nigel and all I did put a comment at end saying very strange!

Chaps

I think most football clubs are glas to get any sponshorship/advertising as are the airlines if it brings their name to the fore but doesn`t mean they will automatically start from your local airport.

Glad that EK thing sorted as something certainly seemed wrong and to be honest we need to wait until the finalised figures are out next month.

Chaps

Hi Chapps 2011

Very strange CAA bungling the initial figures, unless the BHX teams abacus failed, glad the revised ones were a lot better.

No problems CAT111, hope they can maintain these increases.

Nigel

Thanks Nigel
 

On the subject of football sponsorship; Let us not forget that scion of football achievement (A bit like CATIII) at the top end of Watery Lane.

Perhaps Ryan Air or Jet2 or ? Thomson could light a few candles to expunge the Gypsie's curse and spur the Lo-Co's

Its the right side of town: to capture cost concious travellers.

A former Blue Nose

CAT III

Prague
 

Had a PRG-DUS-BHX connection recently - amazed just how many faces from the PRG-DUS flight re-appeared on the DUS-BHX segment. given this is just one of the possible routings to get from PRG to BHX it seems really odd that previous attempts for direct BHX-PRG never stuck around for long.

Connections
 

Insuindi's point is interesting. I travel regularly to Rio de Janeiro and then transfer to flights into central Brazil. Recently taking the early KLM flight to Amsterdam to transfer onto the Rio flight I asked, merely out of interest, was anyone else travelling to Rio. I was quite surprised when she said there were six other passengers booked through. So seven from Brum bound for Rio on one flight...

However, taking into account the quality of in-flight service, my preferred airline to Rio is TAP via Lisbon which, in itself means LHR. Unfortunely as and until they service BHX i'm afraid it is going to be KLM. TAP could be missing a trick here, particularly with the developing economy and trading opportunities within South America for Midlands based companies.

However, taking into account the quality of in-flight service, my preferred airline to Rio is TAP via Lisbon which, in itself means LHR.

Why is that? You not heard there are ten flights a week to Lisbon from Manchester???

LHR - MAN
 

MARK9263: I avoided mentioning Manchester because from where I live, not in Brum, it is far easier to get to LHR - direct by bus! Check my address and also check rail fares...

No slight on Man, just being practical and counting the cost.

MARK9263 - from most points east and south east of B'ham, LHR is much quicker to get to than MAN (that includes Coventry and most of Warwickshire). From where I leave in Leamington by car it's only around 80 miles to LHR on a good day that takes an hour and 15 mins, MAN is 115 miles and takes nearly 2 hours, and that's using the M6 Toll. To be fair, it can be much quicker to get through MAN check in and security equalling it all out but the overall journey to LHR I think is much easier.

As we all know so well on this forum it is both a blessing and a curse for BHX to be located so centrally between LHR and MAN.......

I think TAP could make BHX-LIS work, they have a great range of South American connections and LIS is much more on the way than going via FRA, AMS or even CDG. Not sure who would do BHX-PRG, CSA don't even serve LHR anymore and I think the days of cheapie loco PRG weekends away are all but over? ZB at an outside chance but they don't seem to do that well on city routes from BHX.

Understood. But I was merely making the point that HEATHROW is not the be-all and end-all!

Quote: "However, taking into account the quality of in-flight service, my preferred airline to Rio is TAP via Lisbon which, in itself means LHR."

Once you get to LHR, it's also non-stop to GIG, is it much cheaper to go LHR-LIS-GIG, or is TP much better than BA or JJ?


Quote: "Understood. But I was merely making the point that HEATHROW is not the be-all and end-all!"

Not usually, but occasionally it is!

HS2 and BHX

Quite surprised this has not been debated more on here, although may be there is the thought that it will simply not happen so does not warrant discussion.

Will it hinder BHX expansion OR assist it ?

Taking it further MAG support the Manchester leg believing that London airspace will be full and hordes of passengers will head North.

IF BHX is developed and its a big "if" surely those same pax will simply go from BHX ?

To me the thinking is totally flawed and instead of exporting passengers London having 1st mover advantage in terms of frequency will simply suck in pax from both airports.

BAGSO,

Re HS2 pretty sure this topic was covered on Pprune some months ago.

The Birmingham Section wasn't going to open until at least 2027 so not sure it was a priority for spotters ! ;)

A Manchester extension will probably not be finished even if its fully confirmed for another 10 yrs or more after that so wouldn't worry too much.

Nigel

HS2 and BHX
 

Probably make very little difference in the great scheme of things.

BHX expansion depends more on sufficient destinations to provide connectivity and sufficient numbers of pax paying premium fares to make routes profitable for carriers.

The presence or not of the HS2 is irrelevant. There aren't many that can take advantage of the estimated 50 minute journey time: relatively few in the centre of London.

For everyone else in the south, add on hours and the aggravation of having several transfers on public transport to/from the HS2 terminal.

The "London airspace will be full and hordes of passengers will head North" argument is correct up to a point. Heading north east to Schiphol rather than north west to Ringway and/or Elmdon is probably more accurate.

It's probably academic anyway. Have to choose my words carefully after the chocolate hat-eating episode re. Air-India! Hmmmm, it tasted good