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Buster the Bear 3rd Apr 2002 15:05

Ciao-Fly to Luton
 
Will inaugurate service from Parma to London Luton on 03Jun02. Schedules as follows : CIO120 PMF 1110-1210 LTN 1310-1610 PMF CIO121 (Ops Mon/Wed/Fri)

Will inaugurate service from Rimini to London Luton on 03Jun02. Schedules as follows : CIO220 RMI 1110-1300 LTN 1330-1610 RMI CIO221 (Ops Mon/Wed/Fri)

http://www.ciaofly.com/En/english.html

LTN man 4th Apr 2002 04:49

Good news indeed. I wonder what type of aircraft they will use.

VIKING9 4th Apr 2002 06:53

I sincerely hope that a certain ex Debonair Italian chap is not behind this mob.............

Buster the Bear 4th Apr 2002 10:11

Parma runway is 6200ft, enough for a fully loaded 737-300?

Buster the Bear 4th Apr 2002 19:37

Hi-Fly, sorry Ciao-Fly reckon 737's.....Hopefully. Good luck to the venture, should make up for the loss of the green Fokkas to Essex!

LTN man 4th Apr 2002 20:00

This is news to me, when are Euroceltic off. No info on their web site as it is off line.

flysr4ever 4th Apr 2002 20:12

Buster the Bear, the runway in Parma is actually 1900 metres long with plans to extend it to 2100 metres. Swiss people seem to be behind the airline.

Jer

Buster the Bear 5th Apr 2002 13:10

Ciao, 1900 meters is roughly 6200ft!

Long enough for a 737-300?

flysr4ever 5th Apr 2002 16:18

Buster the Bear,

Yes, 1900 metres/6200 feet seems to be enough for a B737-300.

Jer

OLNEY 1 BRAVO 24th Apr 2002 15:15

Just looked at their Website too!

Seems flights to Luton are not to be ... but instead, welcome to London-Southend!

It would appear that they've changed the routes they are going to do - nothing out of Rimini and all flights seem to originate from Parma.

The Southend service seems to be twice-daily most days of the week, although one flight routes via Pontoise.

Buster the Bear 24th Apr 2002 16:20

London-Southend, where is that?

Should be a good revenue generator eh?

Ciao for now!

FL310 24th Apr 2002 23:39

does this schedule mean that Southend eventually found investors who pay for the long overdue shifting of the church, or how do these chaps think to get a loaded 737-300 out of this field....:rolleyes:

LTN man 26th Apr 2002 17:35

No problem operating 737-300 into Southend as the aircraft will always be empty

Red Four 26th Apr 2002 22:48

Gosh, LTN man, seem to have changed your view quickly about this being good news!!

LTN man 27th Apr 2002 09:18

Pontiose dropped, they are now going to fly to
Paris-BEAUVAIS. I wonder where they intend flying tomorrow?

LTN man 27th Apr 2002 09:26

Has the airline told Southend airport management about their plans? The following is an extract of a letter sent to residents

Dear Residents
There has been an airfield at Southend since 1915 and, after its early RAF days, it reached its heyday for passengers in 1967 when nearly 700,000 people passed through its doors. Later on in 1989, when express parcel services were booming, there were 110,000 flights through the airport. Today our passenger flights are reduced to just a few summer flights to the Channel Islands that can only be operated with 50 seat type aircraft until the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) are satisfied that the airport has been upgraded to meet current safety standards.
It may seem strange to non-aviation people to see Boeing 737’s coming to and from the airport all the time, and to learn that we cannot allow them to carry passengers. They can only come and go empty until we have the proper runway end safety areas.

FL310 27th Apr 2002 17:49

and that is the reason why Ciaofly will not operate into Southend with B737 at all....

Roland Butter 27th Apr 2002 20:06

146 could do it? Brings back memories of DEB and their galant venture!

Southend are fighting tooth and nail in order to gain business. Their Channel Isles traffic is up considerably this summer, but the only Pax venturing through their terminal are those en-route to JJ and JB on Sat and Sun.

If they are relying on Ciao, their route structure changes daily, so could well be a massive hoax?

FL310 28th Apr 2002 20:26

Butter, you scored extremely high with your assumption...:D

LTN man 3rd May 2002 05:54

Southend dropped and now back to Luton with a twice daily from Milan. Looking at their timetable it looks like they will operated just one aircraft.:eek: :eek:


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