Because of last years shenanigans? Never heard of the phrase "consumer confidence"?

Also, what does this comment mean:

Can't see a regulator using terms like "happy" - I think it probably means that no action is being discussed at the moment.

Some people clearly don't know when to stop! As was said earlier if you can produce evidence that Monarch was in financial difficulty and losing money pre the ATOL debacle and be confident enough to provide your name with it, I and many others would take you seriously. I suspect you won't be able to do that but you'll go on about the ATOL bond and the CAA having just cause blah blah blah as if that means anything by itself! := Keyboard warriors hey!!! :rolleyes:

The fact is that Monarch was in profit and was renegotiating its ATOL contribution........end of! The CAA taking a step like that was a complete overreaction and unnecessary and this is widely accepted now both within the organisation and outside. Internally at the CAA this has been discussed ad nauseam and action taken to make sure this doesn't happen again. To not properly consider that social media would seize on the "shadow airline" and spread it like wildfire was a serious oversight by them. It almost became a self fulfilling prophecy and seriously damaged Monarch's brand.

Anyway that is all behind us now, ATOL bonded flights only ended and rightly so and a further major investment was made by our shareholders. Monarch's brand has proven to be far resilient than many thought and passenger confidence is recovering and load factors are comparable to all other airlines! :ok:

Some people will always wonder about a relatively small airline like Monarch surviving as a separate entity long term and that is a fair comment. None of us know what the future holds and Brexit has complicated the scenario immeasurably.

I think you are missing the point - doesn't matter whether the CAA were right or wrong, the bad publicity that was generated will be enough to damage confidence.

Google "Monarch Airlines" and scroll through the pages - as you say yourself it
I've no connection with the CAA but am familiar with regulators of other industries - they would never say that they "happy" with an organisation, if you push really hard they may confirm that they aren't currently taking any action, and I'd be amazed if the CAA are any different.

No I've not missed any point thank you very much, I have just moved on as have most people including the CAA! To seize on my colleagues use of the word "happy" says more about your mindset and driving force than it does about whether the CAA were a barrel of laughs when the matter concluded! :ugh::rolleyes:

SWBKCB Give us a break, just because someone says that CAA were happy with whatever
doesn`t mean that that is the exact wording just the writers take of events

Agreed. What ever adjective is used happy, satisfied etc I'm sure the CAA monitor all carrier's performance in every category. I can't see the point in anyone knocking Monarch especially now they're back on track and about to embark on their next aircraft phase.

Am I correct in thinking that the 737NG has a smaller pax capacity than the A321? If so are Monarch downsizing capacity? If so why, or will they increase frequency if possible?

I think (and I emphasise think!) the B737 will be about 10 seats less than the A320 assuming they still pursue the extra legroom seating options to mirror the current offering. There are still lots of things being considered including keeping some Airbus for the routes that can sustain 200+ pax.

I think the new fleet will be a good opportunity to cut out any routes that don't offer enough profitability and expand those that do by upping frequency.

It will be very interesting to see what happens once the Max's do arrive. It must be quite exciting for those involved particularly as it will coincide with the airlines 50th anniversary

This may be commercially sensitive, but I am wondering what proportion of their PAX are flight only, what are Monarch holidays, and do they carry PAX booked by other holiday companies? These could be the specialist operators eg golf trips to the Algarve, or from the larger operators wishing to add an additional origin or destination. For example, TCX don't have any base a/c in Edinburgh, but offer holidays to Tenerife and Majorca using Easyjet; and TUI add to the offer using their single based a/c by also using Easyjet to Dubrovnik. In the past they would have also used Jet2, but they are hardly likely to use their main competitor!

Bookings for BHX-VLC route are going quite good at the moment.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=139767965&postcount=9414

The proposed MAX10 would be a good replacement for the 321's further down the line. Its worth remembering some of the current fleet is heading towards 20 years old, and would fit in well with a replacement in 5/6/7 years time.

I'm sure that the Mantegazza's rue the day that they sold such a money making enterprise !

Do you troll Twitter and Facebook as well?? No one is interested in your pathetic baiting and negativity. There's a big stone over there, go crawl under it!

The facts are that the old Monarch was screwed over by IR as the man knew nothing about how an integrated carrier should be run. Monarch should be where Jet2 are now. Thankfully, the new guard seem to have recognised this and are running to catch up. The questions are, have they allowed J2 into their space with the expansion into STN and can they recapture the market given the CAA inflicted damage from last year and are Cosmos/Avro a help or a hindrance in their revised structure with all the old hindrances still in place in Bromley? I realise the companies are no longer linked and that the parasitical relationship is thankfully severed but they could still be leaching bookings from the NewCo

I see Monarch celebrated 20 years of flying scheduled services between Luton and Gibraltar today.. Over 1.5 million passengers have been flown on the route. Also the airline is to continue its new routes to Oporto, Stockholm and Zagreb through the coming winter.

Slightly off topic but I think it would be nice to see one of the new 737's delivered in an 80's retro livery. A very basic livery yes, but one that many on here would remember no doubt.

I'd rather see it in the 1970s (Britannia) scheme - that would be really retro!

Out of curiousity, why would Monarch paint an aircraft in a Brittania retro colour scheme?

Bristol B175 Britannia series 312??? A la G-AOVT at Duxford

Perhaps you're a little young to remember that far back; I am verging on becoming an old f@rt!!

Yep Britannia the aircraft type which, ironically, is where the Britannia Airways name derived if I'm not mistaken.