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Cloud1 11th Feb 2015 11:08

8 BE arrivals and 8 BE departures on Saturdays during the summer unless any other routes are added. These being in addition to EI & EZY movements.

I cannot see DUS appearing on the online timetable so is it Eurowings/Germanwings returning for this route? And am I correct in assuming it will remain a Saturday service?

cornishsimon 11th Feb 2015 11:24

Eurowings on the crj900
Saturday's from 30th May


cs

Wycombe 11th Feb 2015 12:45

You are correct Cloud1, I was counting 2 MAN rotations on a Sat, whereas there is actually 1.

No EZY from/to LPL on a Sat thought I don't think - I believe that is 2pw on Thurs and Sun.

NewquayJacob 11th Feb 2015 14:34

Flybe - NQY summer ops
 
From what I can work out, this is what the Flybe aircraft are operating on a Saturday (1 based and 3 non-based aircraft):

A/C 1
NQY-LGW 07:30-08:45
LGW-NQY 09:30-10:40

NQY-STN 11:00-12:25
STN-NQY 12:50-14:10

NQY-MAN 14:45-16:00
MAN-NQY 16:40-17:50

NQY-LGW 18:25-19:40
LGW-NQY 20:10-21:20

A/C 2
EDI-NQY 10:55-12:40
NQY-NCL 13:05-14:35

NCL-NQY 15:15-16:45
NQY-EDI 17:10-18:50

A/C 3
BHD-NQY 16:40-18:05
NQY-BHD 18:30-20:00

A/C 4
BHX-NQY 13:05-14:05 (According to seat plan, some flights look to be E175)
NQY-BHX 14:30-15:30

cornishsimon 11th Feb 2015 14:43

STN daily opens up good connections to NCL.

however I still feel that LBA and EMA could sustain services as have been tried and tested in the bmi baby and air southwest days.

EDI and BHD could use a midweek as once weekly isn't ideal but generally this is all good news for NQY.


cs

NewquayJacob 11th Feb 2015 14:53

What European routes may work in future? Maybe AMS 3x weekly?

cornishsimon 11th Feb 2015 15:24

I suspect DUB has good potential if the rotation could be timed to allow onward connections. However the current timings are point to point only.

Germany is huge for cornish tourism so extra DUS & a FRA could work well I would say. Also an AMS could work on KLM or BE with KLM codeshare.


cs

compton3bravo 11th Feb 2015 16:14

Sorry, who on earth would want to go to Newcastle via Stansted? Nothing against Stansted. It is like going to Peterborough from Cambridge via Norwich!

cornishsimon 11th Feb 2015 17:21

NQY-STN-NCL was just one example.
There is no other connection option available for NCL ex NQY


cs

CabinCrewe 11th Feb 2015 17:53

Don't understand why GLA never worked. It was always very expensive - a once or twice weekly summer only EZY or FR might generate enough to fill big aircraft at low prices. An intermittent overpriced S340 was not the solution. JER being a similar successful model

NewquayJacob 11th Feb 2015 18:07

Maybe a weekly Saturday Jersey flight with Flybe would be viable on the Dash 8?

cornishsimon 11th Feb 2015 18:14

JER was tried just before SZ folded and seemed to show good interest.

SOU could also be a goer for the cruise crowd, maybe 3 weekly with the added bonus of a half decent flybe network ex SOU to offer connections on.

GLA well yes. I understand logie dropped it to make better use of the S340 and not because of poor demand. It does beg the question why it's not been taken up again by BE or another operator.


cs

NewquayJacob 11th Feb 2015 18:33

There are quite a lot of route opportunities ex NQY that maybe viable in the future. The airport needs a route network similar to Air Southwest again: Cork maybe again in the future, year round flights to likes to NCL and EDI and winter and summer charters - maybe CMF and ALC and JER in the summer months. According to the revised master plan in the high and base scenarios by the end of 2016 the airport should be handling 300,000 pax.

cornishsimon 12th Feb 2015 09:21

220,000 probably isn't too far off the mark for 2015 really, so if BE keep adding for 2016 300,000 should be a reasonable aim.


3 daily LGW
1 daily MAN
+3 weekly MAN
1 daily STN
1 daily BHX
4 weekly DUB
2 weekly LPL (A319/320)
1 weekly NCL, BHD & EDI
1 weekly DUS
plus multiple ISC




cs

horatio_b 12th Feb 2015 11:52

But to put things into context, the 2009/10 figure was 359K and the break even figure has been quoted as 750K. Still some way to go.

25 DME FIX 12th Feb 2015 13:16

I hear that NQY is now moving into the Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV) market, anyone know how that is going to affect future passenger flights.


A friend of mine was up at Aberporth (Wales) last week, they are apparently installing a radar which will be used by NQY for control of UAVs. Anyone know what is happening?

cornishsimon 12th Feb 2015 13:31

Are you meaning commercial or mod (raf) ?


cs

TCAS FAN 12th Feb 2015 16:25

cornishsimon

I would speculate that if a UAV wants to use NQY it needs the runway length that they can offer, in which case you are looking at Predator/Reaper size which case I would say MOD/military as I'm not aware of anything civil that size.

cornishsimon 12th Feb 2015 17:23

BBC News - UAV testing in Aberporth expanding to use Newquay Cornwall Airport


cs

25 DME FIX 12th Feb 2015 18:37

cornishsimon


Thank you for the link, two questions still unanswered "what impact will UAV flying at NQY have on passenger flights?" and secondly "why does NQY need a radar that's sited a 100 miles plus away?".


Reading CAP 722 I get the impression that that you cannot mix manned and unmanned aircraft flying together. So if that is the case, one last question "how is the airport going to prioritise between UAVs and passenger flights?".


From a previous post it appears that the airport is far short of its break-even passenger level so I'm a little perplexed as to how they are going to achieve it if UAVs will restrict passenger flights.


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