With a night stop at BHD KL could do v well with a suitably sized plane. Early out and late back would bd optimum for connections , suit the business traveller. To rival that ezy would def need x2 daily.
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If so I expect EZY to go double daily on Monday, Friday and Sunday.
I think KLM double daily on other days would have low LF When BMI baby went into AMS it wasn't too long before they dropped the Tues and Wednesday rotation The aspect of using AMS as a hub I feel is a non starter. Most NI pax will still use LHR or make the journey to DUB |
Double daily minimum or pointless really. But this KLM story seems to be BHDs old chestnut that wont die. I dont think I will hold my breath on this one or TK starting from BHD. When AirUk did the AMD before they pulled the plug even though all the flights full but them got such a small percentage cut in fare from onward carriers and especially northwest orient to to the states they pulled the route.
If it is marketed well the batyle will be BA vs KLM as they both after the onward business and high yield fares |
Are Klm starting to look at another few uk routes? .
Last year they did say they planned a few more UK regional airports. Which Leaves BHD. DSA. EMA. To my knowledge. Would Inverness work?. Or dye to oil industy rapud exoansion at Sumburgh. Could a direct KLM flight work to there ?. Second would an E170 be able to get in and out of Sumburgh or would it need to be some kind of cide share with Flybe And a Q400. Or a cityjet Avro RJ100. Woukd Newquay support a Klm Service?. Southend?. Lydd?. |
Have to agree. Jack1985 EZY will do double daily on Mon Fri and Sun and squeeze the market. Same as when BMI baby tried. |
KLM already codeshare on Flybe's daily INVAMS Q400 service - they have done ever since it started approx 18mths ago I think. They also codeshare on SOU too.
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HM & HRH-DoE just arrived on a chartered business jet. I didn't realise City airport was designated to handle them.
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What they managed to get the entire Dept of the Environment on a single plane? :}
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What they managed to get the entire Dept of the Environment on a single plane? :} |
Ha, nice one :O
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Most of the Royal family have been using BHD for years, much like they do at RAF (or whatever its now called) Aldergrove..it just depends on where they need to attend. Same for the PM, the Irish leaders etc.
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After the move to Terminal 5, I see BA are upguaging many flights to BHD from A319's to A320's and even a few A321's!!
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LinksAir landing gear issue closes Doncaster Airport, flight from BHD
BBC News - Doncaster Airport closed after aircraft landing incident Only one passenger on board!!! |
As i've posted elsewhere, with Links being new to the scheduled world, this could be a very quick exit from it as well. I wouldn't expect the service to continue after this. They don't have a replacement aircraft for a start, they are used elsewhere.
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TimmyW
Maybe it is an incorrect perception on my part but your posts always seem to predicting doom and gloom for either an airport or an airline. Not very helpful and very boring to read. V. |
Absolutely vman.
Timmy hasn't realised that the airline will look at all options to recover the programme, which shouldn't be too difficult. |
LinksAir have 3 aircraft 2 leased to CityWing they will use G-LNKS for the DSA route for time being
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BHD July Stats
Passengers Rolling Year: 2,549,648 +7.4
Passengers This Month: 250,784 -2.6 Domestic Routes: Gatwick................ 24,497....... -43 Heathrow.............. 62,682....... 0 Aberdeen.............. 3795.......... +11 Birmingham............ 24,744....... -1 Cardiff.................. 4066......... +8 Doncaster............. 975........... - East Midlands........ 14,369....... +18 Edinburgh............. 14,309....... +12 Exeter.................. 4080......... +217 Glasgow............... 13,188....... +9 Inverness............. 3056......... +26 Isle Of Man........... 2089......... -9 Leeds.................. 14,887....... +8 Manchester.......... 27,898....... +13 Newcastle............ 3048......... -27 Newquay.............. 528........... -17 Southampton........ 11,051....... +20 International Routes: Verona................. 2117......... +18 Faro.................... 9135......... -2 Malaga................. 8535......... +4 Palma.................. 2379......... +2 |
TimmyW I wouldn't expect the service to continue after this. They don't have a replacement aircraft for a start, they are used elsewhere. |
LNQ206 on it's way to BHD.
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G-LNKS doing the Links Air Belfast run today. So that leaves 'JIBO to operate for CityWing.
Lada Air L410s UBA, RDA and TCA operating as usual on the CityWing schedule. Will be interesting to see what they lease-in to sub for LNKS. I assume it's Links' responsibility per contract to supply two aircraft? |
EI possible expansion, from NI Travelnews
Aer Lingus to Boost Services from City Airport Aer Lingus has revealed to Northern Ireland Travel News that it could soon increase its flights out of Belfast City Airport. The airline, which moved from Belfast International Airport two years ago, recently moved its Belfast-Heathrow service to the new Queen's Terminal (Terminal 2) at Heathrow, cutting connecting times to just an hour. Aer Lingus' new Chief Revenue Officer Mike Rutter confirmed that there would be service enhancements on a number of fronts. The airline is looking at beginning services to Manchester/Birmingham; there could be an extra daily flight to Gatwick, a possible fourth daily rotation from Belfast City to Heathrow; while the airline is also looking at further direct services to Europe. Said Mike Rutter: "We have been delighted with our performance at Belfast City Airport. We are looking at another rotation to Gatwick first of all, and Heathrow too could soon possibly benefit from an extra flight in the day. As regards new services, we are looking at introducing routes like Birmingham or Manchester, while new destinations in Europe are always under consideration." |
Good news.
Put's paid to the silly rumours about them returning to BFS ;) |
The same Mike Rutter that help drag Flybe down
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EI regional or mainline I wonder?
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Deploying the same strategy on BHX and MAN as they did on LGW might work but it could be costly. Airbus a little big.
All that said they may look strategically in terms if the two new routes and wage a war. 319 for peak morning and evening rotations supplemented by Stobart 72 in mid day rotation(s). I'd guess ... BHD certainly looks like big picture / long term in relation to domestic flying ... Good news here for BHD ... |
More likey code share with flybe to Man and Bhx
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I struggle to see what a code share with BE on BHD to MAN or BHX would bring to the table. In addition, hard to see how that would be worthy of a mention ...
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Personally I think if EI do start man and Bhx, ezy won't want to get into a fare war and will drop it, leaving no threat for flybe
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When is the last time ezy retreated opposite BE and EI, I think that will make it all the more interesting for them . Clearly EI will be focused on the niche that BHD presents, something different to BFS on domestics and focused on BE's space.
That stats for these routes exactly like Gatwick was, a BE route with 20something thousand pax per month. Only diff is that prop more credible machine for these routes distance wise, and frequency much higher ... |
BHD Stats August 2014
Passengers this month: 254,787 -0.9
Passengers rolling Year: 2,547,344 +4.5 Domestic: Gatwick: .............25,252 .......-40 Heathrow: ...........63,076 .......-2 Aberdeen: ...........3956 .........+18 Birmingham: .......25,002 .......+6 Cardiff: ...............4442 .........+12 Doncaster: ..........933 ...........- East Midlands: .....14,622 ......+24 Edinburgh: ..........14,221 ......+8 Exeter: ...............4275 .........+192 Glasgow: ............14,566 .......+19 Inverness: ..........3121 .........+20 Isle Of Man: ........2464 .........-1 Leeds: ................14,704 .....+8 Manchester: .........28,033 .....+17 Newcastle: ..........3076 ........-31 Newquay: ...........661 ..........-4 Southampton: .....11,281 .....+21 International: Verona: ..............1953 ........-13 Faro: ..................8942 ........-5 Alicante: .............143 .........- Malaga: ..............8379 .......0 Palma: ...............2489 .......+14 |
Flying Gatwick/ Belfast City this morning, the head flight attendant commented that 3 new routes had been announced for start in Summer 2015; he also said this had been on the news yesterday; I was abroad and didn't see/ hear local news. The suggested routes are Belfast City to Frankfurt, Munich and Alicante.
He also suggested that the Heathrow route would switch to 320 and the 319 returned to Dublin ??? Anybody know anything about this ? Was surprised not to hear it on here quite quickly. Nothing in the booking engine yet ... Clearly . |
I did hear a rumour about German routes comings, but it wasn't by EI and was from BFS not BHD
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Germanwings from BFS? :)
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Germanwings website still has BFS on its menu but no destinations. Has been like this for 10 days or so. Suppose it could be typo error
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Germany and ALC news is from EI themselves. Germany is being explored but ALC is more lees done deal.
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Are Aer Lingus doing Palma next year, or will Alicante be instead of?
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On the face of it, good results from BHD. But one cannot look at the BCA accounts in isolation as they are the only asset of their holding company, ANKA. The debt held by ANKA is up by almost £5m from £101M to over £105M for 2013.
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Palma PMI now on sale for Aer Lingus, 2 weekly like S14 on Tuesday and Saturday. :ok:
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