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BHD2BFS 15th Aug 2012 21:26

With the current rumours that BE management have been visiting BFS, could BHD really survive without them? Correct me if I'm wrong but i don't think EI and EIR have enough aircraft/ right size of aircraft to cover BEs network from Belfast

BFS BHD 15th Aug 2012 21:35

Flybe aren't moving to BFS i can confirm that :ugh:, why would they even move to BFS as they have a big base at BHD. I cant say why they where in but they aren't moving anytime soon.

BHD2BFS 15th Aug 2012 21:38

Well BFS BHD they weren't there for afternoon tea

CabinCrewe 15th Aug 2012 21:40

I can equally confirm that they are moving to BFS, but I can't say why. Does anyone believe me ? :confused::ugh:

BFS BHD 15th Aug 2012 21:42

They where in cause their doing the ski flights from BFS at the end of the year! likely to use their E195.

ALLMCC 15th Aug 2012 21:43

Agreed that EI/EIR probably wouldn't have enough aircraft or the right mix to take over all or most of BE's routes - however, what about BA or even BACF. Now that BA are at BHD, they are probably looking at developing their presence there - what better way to do that than maybe looking at key routes such as MAN, BHX and GLA, for instance.

All this is speculation anyway until Flybe make some announcement if it is their intention to move.

BHD2BFS 15th Aug 2012 21:48

BFS BHD I'm not going to argue you clearly know all. But with the big plans that EI and EIR have for BHD some one has to lose, there isn't room for them both. I could be completely wrong but EI have obviously been enticed down by a good deal, a deal I recon that is far better than what BE have

redED 16th Aug 2012 12:48

Have a look at BE v EI LGW prices, for once BE seem to be up for the fight (based on random dates I looked at).

EI-BUD 16th Aug 2012 13:06


however, what about BA or even BACF. Now that BA are at BHD, they are probably looking at developing their presence there
ALLMCC; BA or indeed BACF are not given to any routes that dont start or end at one of 3 London Airports. (ok exclude franchise operators under BA unbrella).

Not core, too marginal, too risky and the domain of low cost airlines or Flybe who they have an interest in, albeit a small one that was incidental to them off loading BA Connect.

I would rule them out.

Skipness One Echo 16th Aug 2012 13:29


BA are at BHD, they are probably looking at developing their presence there - what better way to do that than maybe looking at key routes such as MAN, BHX and GLA, for instance.
Fundamentally wrong and against BA's stated aims and business model. There are three parts.
1) Feed long haul LHR from short haul
2) Maintain long haul LGW in profit and sort out short haul or close
3) Feed IB long haul at MAD from London

Regional point to point flying is most certainly NOT in there. BA CityFlyer is niche and point to point London focussed, and not part of mainline BA. Regional routes proved unsustainable and unprofitable for BA and were all closed less than five years ago in a sell off to flybe.

speedrestriction 17th Aug 2012 06:00

More than five years:eek: Showing your age Skipness! Where does the time go?

sr

BHD2BFS 17th Aug 2012 13:42

Anybody here know how bookings are looking on the BHX route for when they go head to head with EZY? Could we see them drop the route?
Has pax numbers drop on MAN since EZY started it aswell?

redED 17th Aug 2012 13:54

Drop the route?!?!?:ugh:

So flybe would go from 7 flights a day each way to 0 because easyjet are offering 2? It's not long since Baby were doing it thrice a day also.

Maybe they'll down grade a few Embraers to Dashes for the winter schedule but that'll be all.

speedrestriction 17th Aug 2012 22:38

Down grade? Surely you mean re-allocate ;)

dog in park 18th Aug 2012 09:36

news you may have missed
 
Delighted BA boss is committed to flying out of Belfast - Business News, Business - Belfasttelegraph.co.uk

BHD2BFS 18th Aug 2012 10:46

What are the chances we will see BA cityflyer launch a LCY route, I obv don't know the numbers but if they can manage a IOM-LCY why not BHD, they have the resources in Belfast already and with the rumour that BE is to drop LGW and no Luton or stansted route from BHD I'm sure there is space in the London market

eastern wiseguy 18th Aug 2012 15:32


can manage a IOM-LCY why not BHD

I guess that the high number of international financial institutes with connections in the Isle of Man might have a bit to do with it.

Banks & Financial Institutions in the Isle of Man | directory.im

Now let's have a quick look around the Belfast financial market......there ....that didn't take long did it?

clareview 18th Aug 2012 17:06

LCY
 
And how many others airlines have tried BHD-LCY and failed?

Mlinnie 18th Aug 2012 21:42

I think Scot Airways operated it for a while :\

Thad Jarvis 18th Aug 2012 23:24

....cityjet


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