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tigger2k8 14th Oct 2011 09:07

BELFAST AIRPORT INTERNATIONAL
 
Feel free to edit the title of the thread.. can't think of any other way to name it without using international.. (why remove this?)

Emergency training on Sunday
Belfast International Airport holds Emergency Training Exercise - Belfast International Airport

easyJet is committed to BFS-LPL, looking at increasing flights due to BE suspending BHD-LPL
easyJet committed to Liverpool flights - Belfast International Airport

edit - in reply to BHD2BFS

There is currently 1 EMB120 in BFS which might be Fedex, belongs to swiftair, but the original rumors were that it would be ATR42/72s operated by swiftair.. although no official announcement has been made yet and with the story the Belfast Telegraph has online ( Cause for celebration as parcel firm wings in - Editor Viewpoint, Opinion - Belfasttelegraph.co.uk ) you'd like to think its more than an EMB120 otherwise its the most over-hyped story this year.. but then again the EMB120 could be for something else..

larry the man 14th Oct 2011 10:13

Why were the BFS and BHD threads terminated and restarted?

ILS25 14th Oct 2011 11:23

And why the need to remove International ? It's the official name of the place for goodness sake.

eastern wiseguy 15th Oct 2011 22:50

I have asked the Mods...it is a simple case of making the title fit better. Nothing sinister just practical for the board layout.

I shall once again retire from this board.

clareview 16th Oct 2011 17:28

Any news of any new routes from Belfast International next summer?

BFS101 17th Oct 2011 15:14

CAA provisional stats for Sept have been published.
Terminal passengers are +4.1% compared to September 10, and rolling year -0.2%.

Compare this to LDY, +16.8% for September and +17.4% rolling.
BHD -20.2% for September and -14.2% rolling year.

Hopefully with MAN starting soon, this will help improve the figures some more.

tigger2k8 17th Oct 2011 17:43


Terminal passengers are +4.1% compared to September 10, and rolling year -0.2%.
With MAN starting, LTN running this winter which didn't last year, increases in AMS and GVA and various other domestics, hopefully we will see positive figures for the rest of the year

OltonPete 17th Oct 2011 18:31

Heathrow
 
Source: CAA

Belfast Int - Heathrow September 2011 27572 +3% the only domestic route
out of LHR to show an increase. BHD-LHR was down 21% to 31629.

Aer Lingus seem to be getting the numbers.

Pete

Facelookbovvered 17th Oct 2011 19:37

Pete

It's what happens when you put the ERJ on a route sadly.

BFS101 18th Oct 2011 09:27

Even with the LHR numbers looking very positive, EI are reducing their Heathrow flights next summer, down to three daily from four this year. Has yield been suffering to get the bums on seats???

This 25% reduction is bound to have an effect on passenger numbers next year on the route!

NWSRG 18th Oct 2011 17:23


I shall once again retire from this board.
Eastern,

Please stick around! This forum needs a few experienced aviation folk to comment on the interesting stuff that does happen from time to time...not just the statistics and guesses about what routes may or may not come to us...

Don't go!

BFS101 19th Oct 2011 09:48

Flight Tax is still a threat...

Flight tax is still a threat to air routes says Sammy Wilson - Northern Ireland, Local & National - Belfasttelegraph.co.uk


Sammy Wilson said he had spoken to airline chiefs yesterday who “made it clear that they are considering pulling a number of European and UK flights out of Northern Ireland as the impact of this tax bites into profits and sales of seats”.

The prospect of new routes would seem pretty low if airlines are considering pulling what they have already in place.

Should domestic be pulled, I wonder what are the weakest routes?? EI have confirmed an LHR reduction for next year, there also seems to be a lot of speculation regarding LS LBA route and would seem BFS have lost TLS. BE have already announced the termination of LPL, DSA and MSE also.

j636 19th Oct 2011 09:52

Wondered how long it would take other airlines to start about the tax.

AIRPORT66 19th Oct 2011 14:08

airport66
 
Looks like the airlines are going to start holding a gun to are heads get rid of the tax or we are off.Think also the issue needs to be addressed once and for all.

BFS101 19th Oct 2011 15:24

Even with the tax, I doubt an airline would walk away from a profitable route. It was well known that CO was making a loss on the EWR, and that particular route was seen as a vital trading link.

However I doubt that EZY or others could really use the same reasoning regarding domestics. Some niche routes may suffer, as shown by BE with DSA, MSE; but can't really see any vast withdrawl from either Belfast airport.

INKJET 19th Oct 2011 16:20

BHD STN
 
Well nearly 10 months in to WW switch to the city and despite all the negative comments on here about it won't last, huge mistake and all, it seems to be working just fine, STN is a solid route now with good volume and yield. Just a few weeks from the start of AMS and more importantly the early EMA rotation which might see BE follow it's LPL move.

So all in all baby is at the city to stay

BFS101 19th Oct 2011 16:57


So all in all baby is at the city to stay
So long as Baby is here to stay!!

INKJET 19th Oct 2011 18:51

BFS101
 
There's life in baby going forward, but not as we know it Jim!:p

EI-BUD 19th Oct 2011 21:49


Well nearly 10 months in to WW switch to the city and despite all the negative comments on here about it won't last, huge mistake and all, it seems to be working just fine
INKJET; I admire your positive words and I wish WW well, but to my mind they are ditching CWL and MAN, so clearly they were not 'working well'. The excuse WW give about closing the man base is a non starter, as if MANBHD was viable, they would be serving the route with BHD 737s. Instead a route like AMS is being launched to compete with EZY and lets not forget when Aer Lingus did BFS AMS opposite EZY it didnt last and the winter will in my view be very lean.

EI-BUD

BHD2BFS 22nd Oct 2011 01:04

new airline on its way to belfast in the next few months

tigger2k8 22nd Oct 2011 11:37


new airline on its way to belfast in the next few months
One question, prop or jet aircraft?

BHD2BFS 22nd Oct 2011 15:12

from what i understand it is turboprop and talks have been ongoing for the last 6-12 months

Jamie2k9 22nd Oct 2011 15:17

So its EI regional/RE?

BHD2BFS 22nd Oct 2011 15:27

that is what i have heard

AIRPORT66 22nd Oct 2011 15:33

airport66
 
An airline was in BFS over week ago they were looking and talking about the vacant checkin desks next to Easyjet.

BHD2BFS 22nd Oct 2011 16:37

negotiations must almost be finished now, if check-in desks are being considered :)

NorthernCounties 22nd Oct 2011 17:19

One route must be BHX, any guesses what the others will be...

planenut321 22nd Oct 2011 17:27

It was rumoured a while ago that CWL-BHD/BFS was being looked at as a EI Regional route.

BHD2BFS 22nd Oct 2011 17:54

my source seems to think the routes will be more french and short european routes rather than regional

cuthere 22nd Oct 2011 18:06

In a turboprop......nice!

BHD2BFS 27th Oct 2011 14:42

I see are lingus have dropped Rome and jet2 have dropped Leeds, I think Leeds is gone for good, but will easy or jet2 not pick up Rome

delta154 27th Oct 2011 15:09


jet2 have dropped Leeds
When is this from? I am able to book twice daily flights on their website all summer 2012? Prices from £18.99.

Chitty 27th Oct 2011 15:15

it seems that jet have put belfast to leeds on sale for summer for 2012 but thays going to drop the route in march

jonnyc 27th Oct 2011 15:38

Would be nice to see some EI Regional ATRs in BFS. Would be something different.

BFS101 27th Oct 2011 15:44

Seems strange that after a long period when Leeds flights were not on-sale (leading to speculation that LS were to pull the route), they then put it on-sale only to withdraw after March 2012. Has this withdrawl been officially confirmed???

Regarding Rome, I doubt anyone else will pick up this route. Easyjet operated to Ciampio in the past from BFS and was pulled. LS also seem to be pulling underperforming routes from Belfast, with TLS now gone (possibly LBA). Pisa also operates a very limited summer season, so certainly couldn't see a full schedule to Rome.

AIRPORT66 27th Oct 2011 15:59

airport66
 
Find that very strange at AerLingus dropping Rome it was doing very well this summer.Is AerLingus the airline that met with Sammy Wilson last week complaining about the Apd stating they were considering pulling routes off because of it.If thats the case they didn't waste no time in starting there cull.No1 question is what they gonna replace it with or just extra flights to usual crap thats being offerd out of Belfast these days.

BFS101 27th Oct 2011 16:35

Aer Lingus currently have all three aircraft utilised for summer 2012, even with Rome culled, so don't expect any new destinations.

One aircraft would appear to do the thrice daily LHR. With 2.5 hours sitting on the ground at BFS between morning flights!!

One aircraft will operate either ALC (Tues, Thurs, Sat) or BCN (Mon, Wed, Fri, Sun) in the morning and then to the Canaries, LPA (Mon, Fri), TFS (Wed, Sun) or ACE (Tues, Thurs, Sat).

The third aircraft will operate daily AGP in the morning, followed by a daily FAO, returning late evening.

mutleyshriek 27th Oct 2011 19:14

Jet2 have always left BFS to LBA as the last to go on sale every year,I never doubted that it would end,just finalising the schedule.EIN also only sold FCO up to Feb 2012.However EZY Manchester bookings are well above expectation.My source tells me that up to three little Green Birds are to be based at BFS shortly,and only 12.5 percent of baby bookings at BHD are sold,including the STN route.Seems like WW will stay put until the Franz says No.....

BFS101 27th Oct 2011 22:14


My source tells me that up to three little Green Birds are to be based at BFS shortly
Take it that refers to EI Regional?? Any rumours on routes??

Excellent news about EZY Manchester!! Has the popularity of MAN affected future LPL sales??

EI-BUD 28th Oct 2011 09:09


Take it that refers to EI Regional?? Any rumours on routes??


BFS101
I have a feeling this may refer to Airbus 319s instead of ATR!! We will have to wait and see. I think 2 of the 3 being taken on from Iberia in Madrid have already arrive in Dublin but will not go into service until January.

I am not sure that even Aer Arann in the guise of Aer Lingus Regional would put 3 aircraft in, even if they took on say BHX, CWL and LBA (assuming Jet2 pull this route) couldnt see there being need for 3! 1 would be a great step forward.

I would love to see Aer Lingus regional doing BHX with one based unit and fitting in another route during the day say CWL...
EI-BUD


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