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waffler 17th Nov 2011 11:30

New routes for Aer Lingus next year just announced.
Dub to Stockholm, Verona and Maastricht.
Ork to Frankfurt.
Hot off the press.

Jack1985 17th Nov 2011 12:38


New routes for Aer Lingus next year just announced.
Dub to Stockholm, Verona and Maastricht.
Ork to Frankfurt.
Hot off the press.
Where has this been announced? have to say Maastricht is a suprise to a lessor extent Verona too. Delighted to hear about Stockholm and Cork to Frankfurt though!

Jamie2k9 17th Nov 2011 16:05

They have FR to compete with as they announced Verona today.

racedo 17th Nov 2011 18:59

Wonder who blinks first.

PPRuNeUser0176 17th Nov 2011 19:06

Aer Lingus will most lightly sell seats to a tour operator which will help them but it just happoned that both were announced on the same day. Would expect EI to follow FR with a 3 weekly service but EI would be first to drop it before FR.

airnoc 18th Nov 2011 21:11

Noc to Lgw
Why does a sold out flight not operate as in the case on noc/lgw was trying to book from tomorrow at short notice and back on tues and can not travel

irish lad 18th Nov 2011 21:59

Anyone know does aerlingus/ aerlingus regional accept dogs for transport?

Jamie2k9 18th Nov 2011 22:48

Aer Lingus are not operating it on those two days.

PPRuNeUser0176 20th Nov 2011 12:29

2 A319 will replace 2 A320 and the other 2 A319 due to be used for expanction. The two leaving will be the older A320's.

Jack1985 20th Nov 2011 12:52

EI-CVA, EI-CVB most likely to leave. So i hear two A319 will be BFS based, i assume the other 2 A319 will be ex DUB?

EISNN 21st Nov 2011 01:04

Would the 319's necessarily go to DUB? Maybe ORK or SNN with increased capacity on a W route that is currently operated by EI Regional? BHX/GLA/MAN??? I'm speculating of course. EI Regional aircraft could possibly be used then on introducing a new route or a route that's proving to more suitable to a ATR72 with more frequency on the same said route. I'd imagine that with the introduction of four 319's to their fleet they're planning clever - they have to. The A319's are ideal for an airline like Aer Lingus where there's a great network offered (if anyone remembers what EI offered 15+ years ago you'll know what I mean). Thing is that for both FR and EI some destinations EX DUB can't be making much of a profit if at all. EI are putting themselves in an ideal place where with the planning of EI Regional and the 319's gives them an opportunity to put themselves in a better (read 'profitable') place for a thin/competitive route market and therefore giving more frequency and price to their customers/potential customers. Next summer could prove to be a good fight for routes ex BFS, DUB, ORK and SNN. Great for us the punter.

That said ....... watch this space ......

LET THE GAMES BEGIN!!!

PS is it true that EI may claim back the title of largest operator (passenger wise) in DUB for 2011? If so what routes are FR falling back on, dropped or losing passengers on? or is it that they've reduced their operations ex DUB during the entire year/Summer '11 in comparison to Summer 2010? Are there stats/figures that are available that we could see that sees which airline is doing better on passenger load wise?

racedo 21st Nov 2011 20:13


PS is it true that EI may claim back the title of largest operator (passenger wise) in DUB for 2011?
And that wins you what ?

Bearcat 21st Nov 2011 20:24

economics re supply/demand have lead FR elsewhere so EINs winning on the no's means sfa.

brian_dromey 21st Nov 2011 20:40

Maybe it means SFA, and for sure if FR decided they could ramp up capacity at DUB so fast it would make EI's eyes water and ruin their forward planning. That said, FR had many chances to kill off EI, yet have not managed/bothered to. EI have been quite lucky, in that ORK and DUB have been left largely untouched and FR retreated from Belfast. Im not sure what happened at LGW, it all seemed to be going roughly to plan, then it was killed (I have heard whisperings of a loose cannon with a big ego running riot over a short period and sealing the fate of LGW - don't know how true that is)

It is important for EI to be the biggest player at it's home airports, if for show and for the benefit of the analysts, if nothing else.

Jamie2k9 21st Nov 2011 23:29

Over the summer season Mar - Oct Aer Lingus had the most aircraft movements and seats available from Dublin.

38.75% of movements
41.09% of seats

They are ahead of Ryanair by 1.9% in terms of seats available.

Have we a date for the new EI routes going on sale?

no slot 22nd Nov 2011 08:28

Bearcat, supply and demand? Get real, supply and demand have lead Ryanair to ground 70/80 aircraft for the winter. Why don't they use these aircraft to kill off EI? Or do you believe its genius to borrow millions for non performing assets while you allow them to depreciate while spending money maintaining and parking them?

Brian, AL are lucky? Yea, you're absolutely right, there lucky they're not expanding in a contracting market ( that continues to burn while the eurocrats dither ). Or maybe luck is to do with hard work and 75 years of experience.

Is it not about time we get over this Ryan v EI BS. Both companies are making money and are Irish. Both have skeletons in their closest and both have made some bizarre business decisions over the years. Hers the good news, they're both Irish and are still here serving our little island in a time when airlines are falling weekly.

Good luck to them both.
Dry your eyes lads, leave the mines bigger than yours for some other aspect of your lives.

Bearcat 22nd Nov 2011 11:02

No slot, you have just answered your own question re the economics conundrum:ok:

no slot 22nd Nov 2011 12:06

It just gets better.:ugh:
G'luck
Over and Out.

mart901 24th Nov 2011 23:46

Is it possible the cash strapped punter has had enough of being treated like rubbish by Ryanair, fed up of being made to queue up before their aircraft has even landed, then checked for oversize baggage and possibly charged more than the price of the flight for the audacity to buy a bottle or two in duty free, then rambled at in broken english for every possible moment about smokefree cigarettes, scratchcards, instant coffee at 3euro a time and on and on by someone who has had to buy their uniform, pay for training and will probably be let go before 12 months are out? I think given that research is saying people still want their main holiday but are doing away with all the whimsical type breaks, they may very well have burnt out of enthusiasm for Ryanair and maybe thats why they are paring back? Surely they would be in their like wild dogs if the demand was.

racedo 25th Nov 2011 10:11


Racedo, make sure you tell your boss that when he blames airport charges as the reason he is dropping flights and pulling out of airports.
Waffler

WTF would my boss be interested in what is happening at Dublin Airport ?

Oh you trying the old crap of I must work for FR............blah blah bloody blah

That one was false the 1st time it was written and remains so.............do keep up.


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