Right.

Like Cork has a huge number of airlines that are beating a path to its door seeking to run services.

25% passenger decline over 5 years suggests otherwise.

You got to re-start somewhere, racedo?

T2 in Dublin is great except for:

1. When your printed out boarding pass doesn't scan at security you have to trapes down 3 flights of escalators to the Aer Lingus desk.
2. At the security check where you put your coins and phones and coats into trays the stations are very short, people can only start sorting themselves out at the last minute. Longer stations would be so much more efficient. They had the chance to design for that and messed it up.

Mr Roy,


That has never been my experience. I have found it to be a breath of fresh air compared to the cattle market of T1.

My only gripe (thus far) is the poor choice of shops after the US formalities.

As far as airbridges are concerned.....horses for courses really. LoCo's don't want to pay for them...they consider it slows down the boarding/deplaning process anyway.

Cork I suspect is a bit like my own stomping ground and is grateful for ANY services coming their way.

It'd be nice if there was a lounge after pre clearance too.

ORK has one jet bridge at the minute and it is rarely used. If EI were to use it for LHR flights (to begin with) on a consistent basis and were to ask for / commit to use them for other routes there would be some justification, but at the minute EI are not budging and no "full service" carrier uses the airport. If Cork had a service to the US and the likes of LH offering frequent flights to FRA a second bridge could be looked at. Im sure it could be done quite quickly, as all the provisions are there, just a case of acquiring and installing the bridge.

I've only used T2 once and thought it was a great facility, why shouldn't ireland have facilities comparable to the best in the world? T2 is every bit as good as ZRH and head and shoulders above LHR, DXB, etc.

As for the public transport nightmare. CIE have run public transport since the year dot and it took them nearly two decades to implement a common ticketing/fare across Dublin. That says it all, I think.

I agree the public transport links is its downfall

Exactly. I don't even think a demand exists for more airbridges at Cork. All current airlines don't want to use it or cant use it. There's no issue at Cork for attracting flag carriers, there would be absolutely no problem in finding a vacancy for stand 9 for them to use the airbridge. The problem is the demand nor exists or the prices turn them off.

Terminal 2 is a good facility but as Müller pointed out in an investor day call, it's lacking simple touches to enhance the ease of use for the airlines and hence passengers. Just a case of Irish lack of attention to detail I think (I'm Irish so pease don't jump down my throat for that comment).

Missing:-

1. Lead in lighting for stands meaning a marshaller is always required.
2. Baggage has to be manually transferred from one belt to another in the US Preclearance area when a belt could've been installed to do this.
3. Pier E was piped for fuel distribution but never connected to the fuel farm meaning tankers driving round the airport loading the fuel instead of simple pumping / metering trucks as used at alot of other major airports.
4. The short term car park was built with just two lifts and there is a queue outside just about every time I have used the car park. Can't imagine this situation will improve much when traffic picks up properly.

Thats amazing about the fuel. surely not!!

I think the unions had something to do with that.:=

Surely not as they wouldn't want to do anything like that................like running T2:E

T2 is architecturally very nice. But as an exercise in efficiency, logic and easily flowing people from point a (Check in) to point b (departure gate) it’s a mess. I suspect that there was little or no consultation with process engineers in its development. T1 wasn’t any better. The current ease of use is more to do with the low passenger volumes than good design.

Like so much is the Irish State area (politicians, government, civil service and semi-states), it’s all about optics; it gives the impression of knowing what it’s about, sometimes even looks promising but fundamentally fails to deliver on doing the basics properly.

I wonder what world leading airports were visited during the design process and what elements of any were seen as worth incorporating into the design. The check-in, go up two flights of stairs to queue at narrowest part of the building in order to get through the bottle neck of security screening and then down levels to the gates area is very impressive.

What's that phrase about organising a get together to a brewery?


JAS

There is invariably a queue for the two lifts to the short term car park - I now use the stairs.
It's quicker and provides exercise!
Admittedly it is not possible to use the stairs if one has heavy cases.
Such basic incompetence by the DAA architects/engineers comes as no surprise.

Will a new route to china be announced after the chinese visit??

Irish Rail plan still to have the DART connect with the airport. There Rail systems in Irelnad by 2030 was released today. Trains will operate from Cork,Belfast,Galway direct to Dublin Airport as they plan to electrify the rail lines and services can operaete through DART undergound. Although these direct services to Airport will not happen until 2025-2030. Funding is a problem and there would need to be new EMU for this to happen and seen as the current IC tran fleet is very new. The Dart link up from clongriffin is still planned to happen in a few years.

If the direct services to regional cities happen it will be great for airprot acess and services to Cork would take 2h and Galway 1h45. TBH its a plan which may not happen.

Over 1.1 million pasengers in Jan, down 5% on Jan 2011

UK - 475,000 down 5%
Europe -540,000 down 6%
US - 80,000 level on 2011
Middle East - 31,500 up 36%
Domestic - 3,500 down 72%

Latest News > More Than 1.1 Million Passengers In January At Dublin Airport

Must be depressing that the only increase is for people heading off to Australia / NZ as sadly latest Irish generation spreads its wings.

I'd say that the increased figures on the middle east are likely directly related to the reduced figures for Europe.

Noxegon that would be part of it but Ryanair's reduction would of had the largest affect and the domestic fall will continue until July.

Bad but not a disaster....yet.

What happened to Jet 2 flight today. The arrival has being delayed until 11.50 tomorrow and the departure departed 90 mins late. I know it does a W from EDI.

Eliminating flights because of higher fuel costs and other recession related cuts leads to higher fare imposition on the sector of the market who can afford to fly so we can't really say the airlines miss the ones who can't afford to fly. The DAA in DUB perhaps but not FR and EI.

Its being bad day all round for charter passengers with Jet 2 inbound scheduled to be 11h30m delayed and Air Contractors flights scheduled to be 18h delayed and then there is Air Contractors schedule tomorrow will have a 9h delay.

Oh dont u just love charter flights. oh i just cant wait...roll on the summer season. oh hiw ive missed the mayhem, the techness of clapped out airliners, crews out of hours, offloading pissed up passengers. oh joys were else could you work n have such a jolly time!!!!!

Air Contractors had to wait for a replacement Europe Airpost aircraft to arrive from France at 17.42 but the crew were out of hours by that stage. As for Jet 2 most lightly a major tech fault as they had to position in an aircraft to operate the departure from DUB.

Delta Summer 2012 operations
 

A330-200 to operarte ATL from 16 May - 27 October. Last year it was A330-300 from 1 June-30 August 2011. ATL will see improved flight times for connections. A330-200 has 59 less seats than the A330-300 but the the B767 on JFK will increase DL overall seats from DUB this summer.

ATL-DUB 18.40-07.25
DUB-ATL 09.25-11.15

DUB-JFK 11.35-13.15
JFK-DUB 20.20-08.15

The arrival time may change for JFK as both routes are doing an aircraft swap but with the A330 that can't happen from May.

Havn't done the exact figues but there will be an increase in seats for April,May,September,October but a slight reduction for June,July,August.

Delta where very late last year in announcing the extra jfk so it is still possible that this may happen again this summer.

Surely something interesting must be happening in dublin???

Not really. Dylan Bradshaw is the first retail victim in T2 due to continuing traffic decline. :ok:

Oh not good

That's awful news. Just how many million passengers does a successful hair dresser need to survive thesdays?

Guess the Tumbleweed was messing up the Perms...............

Restore Cork - Dublin asap and everything will return to normal!

FR should start Dublin Abjuja - think how much they would make in bags alone! EI start DUB - Buenos Aires.

Jim'll fix it!

I thought that the shops in t2 got some kinda deal on start up costs etc.

Not sure who it will benefit if liquids allowed as really after 5 1/2 years do you really want the hassle of carrying all that extra stuff on board that................green lime Ouzo sounds great in the shop but no way will anybody drink it at home.

Or all the yuckie new baileys flavours!!

What going to happen with the 12 aircraft parked in DUB from at least 4 carriers that have ceased operation across Europe over the last while. Everytime I am there the number of stored aircraft keeps growing.

Spanair
 

j636

Rumour is that SAS might have the Spanair A320's per below

EUROPEAN AIRLINE SCENE - WEEK ENDING 03-03-12 - European Airline Scene - AirSpace blogs - Aviation & Aerospace Blogs - FlightGlobal

I believe SAS have ordered A320's or said they were getting some but not sure if these were to be new or second-hand for the CPH base.

Pete