Dublin passengers left to fend for themselves after Hungarian airline collapses · TheJournal.ie

Didn't know that it was only DUB and TLV that Malev night stopped.

Would it be up to the a/c lesssorto get the empty malev a/c out of dub now. very sad news for all invloved. massive blow for budapest.airport

Jez EI-EIDW

I quiried the reduction on the Krakow route, another poster commented on what may be an aspect of their decision. The thread is "Airlines, Airports & Routes"....thats what happens here.

If you think Aer Lingus should do what it has always done for the past number of decades and that they should only appeal to Irish people, then tats a perfectly valid opinion. However, please don't complain when other posters voice their opinions!

C

Ryanair's passenger plan doesn't stack up: Deloitte - Irish, Business - Independent.ie

Gov said tax will go if Ryanair add 1 million passengers but Ryanair wamt 40% reduction in charges for 10 years at Dublin and tax scrapped.
to bring in 1 million.

MOL claimed that 55% of there passegers from Ireland are inbound. More like 55% outbound.

Also Palemo to DUB from 5 April.

Just hypocrisy on FR's part, given all the charges they see fit to impose on Irish travellers - far in excess of the measly €3 in taxes (far less than those in the UK, probably much lower than in other countries). One can't help thinking that they deliberately ask for things they know they won't get ...

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Sadly, a sight we'll never see again in DUB:

JetPhotos.Net Photo » HA-LOP (CN: 29354) Malév Hungarian Airlines Boeing 737-7Q8 by John Fitzpatrick

One of the best of the old Eastern European carriers - and the first (apart from Tarom) to operate Western aircraft, introducing its first 737-200, back in 1988.

Malev operated a number of charters to Dublin down through the years, before operating its scheduled service in recent years; a relative recalls flying to BUD on a Tupolev back in the mid 1970s.

Is that a capacity increase or frequency increase?

the press release from the DAA says,

"The route, which is currently operated by Iberia franchisee Air Nostrum, is to get a larger 177-seat aircraft from June and additional summer frequencies. Air Nostrum had previously operated the route with a 90-seat aircraft.

The expanded service to Madrid will also enhance Dublin Airport’s international connectivity, as it will offer improved connections to South America, Central America and South Africa through Iberia’s main hub.

The expanded Dublin-Madrid service will operate daily in June and August and eight times per week in July. There will be flve flights per week in each direction during the winter months. Flights will leave Madrid at 15.50 daily arriving in Dublin at 17.20. The return flight will leave Dublin at 18.10 and arrive in Madrid at 21.40.

Bmi plan to increase LHR up to 7 daily flights for the summer. 5 was the most last year and n regional flights planed. Could all change with BA.

From May:
Monday:
7 flights - (3 A319, 3 A320, 1 A321)
Tuesday:
5 flights - (2 A319, 3 A320)
Wednesday:
5 flights - (3 A319, 2 A320)
Thursday:
6 flights - (2 A319. 4 A320)
Friday:
5 flights - (2 A319, 3 A320)
Saturday:
5 flights - (4 A319, 1 A320)
Sunday:
3 flights - (2 A319, 1 A320)

34 weekly in 2011, 36 in 2012 but larger aircraft was nearly always A319, EM145 in 2011.

Aircraft are varied from month to month but its mainly the above. Monday flights are very close so could be a mistake on the site. Currently 10.20 & 10.45 and 13.00, 13.40 and 14.30)

Its a large seat increase and lets hope the route is not pulled.

SK flights for 2012 changes since last post:

ARN 6/7 weekly April-June. 4 weekly July-August. 6/7 weekly September -October
CPH 13 weekly all summer, larger aircraft in May-September
OSL 4 weekly April-June. 3 weekly July-August. 4 weekly September-October.

The timings probably reflect the onward connections via lhr. But none the less much better a/c for the route rather than the barbiejets.

The times showing above would indicate no night stop in the summer

Bmi will have a nigh stop.

First flight of the day leaves LHR at 07.00 and arrives at 08.20 and the first flight from DUB leave at 07.45 and arrives LHR at 09.00. The 08.20 arrival doesn't depart again until after 10.30.

Lufthansa have added a second weekly to MUC during peak summer months. Will now operate on Sat and Sun with A320.

The reduction in airport charges for winter season at DUB have come into affect since 1 Feb. I thaugh it was due to be November 2012 before it happened.

Runway movement charge has being reduced for winter and charges for airlines departing on contact stands reduced but remote stands stay the same remote is Pier D.

Airport Charges

Any reduction is to be welcomed. but may be too little to late for many carriers.

Have heard recently that Air Moldova are to operate charter flights to Chișinău. Does anyone know more?
They have also recently reopened reservations on flights to DUB via FRA.

airmoldova
 

Not surprised after demise of malev as they would have done well with traffic to moldovia. Also read that blue air adding bacu again from april twice a week.

What a load of Boxxxxxs.

LAMA? It should have won the NAMA award for biggest waste of money.

National Impact Award? The only impact it has had is on passengers pockets.

Who the hell invents these nonsensical and meaningless awards?!!!

I agree that this award is meaningless, but I am getting a little tired of the people who repeatedly suggest that T2 has made no difference to anything other than passengers pockets. The fact that the terminal cost a fortune to build is at this point irrelevant. The terminal exists, and no amount of bitching is going to change that.

As a very frequent traveller, I find it to be a much more pleasant experience than terminal one.

I agree. wat a wastfull award

Lufthansa declares record breaking year for UK & Ireland

LH DUB traffic up 19.49% in 2011 and will increase further in 2012.

Noxegon, I agree with you and it is nice that we both appreciate the 'award' winning travel experience that is T2 DUB. Although for me the feeling is somewhat diluted when I realise some of the previous 'award' winners are now on the 'unfinished housing estate lists'.

I'm afraid it is not one bit irrelevant. It is necessary to keep these sad facts constantly in the public eye. It must never be forgotten what a wasteful setup the DAA has been over many years so that they can never again be let run amok building monuments they (and we) cannot afford and not just at Dublin. Luckily, the recession put paid to more of their crazy grandiose plans but even so they leave behind nothing but debt, more debt and huge debt. And now some lunatic quango hands out useless awards to them for the privilege.

I was very hopeful that the new Government would, at long last, do something on the lines of what is happening (and will happen) in the UK. As it turns out, the current Minister responsible appears to be nothing more than a clone of those installed by the previous FF Governments and, in all interviews I have seen and heard, displays a similar arrogance. Same old.

The average tax payer are more annoyed about all the money they had to pay into the banks and not the 650million into T2 at least we get to use what we payed for.

If people are still annoyed about T2 now, they realy need to build a bridge as its there long term and all the bitching will not make T2 go away. Taxpayers money was wasted on much worse things...

Its only being kept in the public eye here as the majority of people don't know and don't care about the DAA or T2 once there is an airline to take them to the sun from either T1 or T2. People have little going on in there lives if they are so bothered about T2.

We didn't pay for anything. The DAA may be a semi-state asset but the cost and all debts associated with the DAA are not public debt nor is the DAA funded by the tax payer. :ugh:

At least we have t2!!

When Dublin's Terminal 2 is being praised to high heaven so much the DAA might as well create a few temporary jobs and finally complete the construction of Cork's new terminal and add in the extra few airbridges that were left outstanding - so many in Dublin it is like snuff at a wake.

And if the argument is put forward that the airlines are not prepared to use them this is what you do - make 'em or tell 'em get lost - after all, Ducksie Air uses loads of 'em around Spain apart from the Alicante whinge.

All this old guff about Dublin, Emirates 777s and fanciful flights about Lagos and South America etc - you would think that Dublin was a first rate, first class capital city.

Tell that to the poor people waiting months and months for their Medical Card applications to the processed.

Dublin and the Dublin Airport Authority, my arse!

Wrong side of the bed this morning?

I think a lot of posters have missed that the Taxpayer does not, in fact, pay for T2 or any of the capital requirements of the DAA, which is a semi-state body. the losses are underwritten and the DAA would benefit from its debt being underwritten by the Irish government, but does not benefit from direct funding from the taxpayers purse.

Another point missed is that T2 was planned and constructed in a time when Aer Lingus, Ryanair and other airlines were adding aircraft to their fleet and new destinations from DUB on a regular basis. T1 was derided as "third world" and "over crowded". Remember the pre-fab barding areas? T2 was very much needed.

Come on guys, you can't have it both ways?

Is it not better to have t2 than not. The operations n costz etc well thats a whole different kettle of fish.

It must be a selling point for new carriers to at least have a look at dub as a potential destination at the very least.

People love to moan... it'll never change. The general population is incapable of thinking for itself, and those in the media feed on this. Throw the public a non-story and they'll lap it up, 2 days later throw a story that completely contradicts the previous story, and surprise, surprise they lap that up too.

T2 was needed, and would we really want a skanky lo-co terminal? No. T2 welcomes those flying in from... *cough* far flung destinations such as the US and Middle East (and further afield). And their first impression of Ireland is a modern, iconic terminal. First impressions count, and I think T2 is a very nice first impression for Ireland. Shame the Government can't/won't get Dublin's transport network which whether we can or can't afford to improve it is absolutely shambolic. (Which I believe subconsciously tells visitors that Irish people can't think straight.)

T2 will always have my support. :ok:

T2 is fine but let us finish the job properly at the one time jewel in the crown Aer Rianta airport down here in Cork - finish the blinking air bridges as was originally planned.

I have no experience of Cork. I have to say that T2 at Dublin is an absolute pleasure to use. Worth every penny.:ok:

€200 million spent and Cork wants more money !!!!!!

How is it going to pay for itself again ?

Cork wants the air bridges, but doesn't want to pay for them...

but do airlines want them?
can't see Wizz or Ryanair using them if they are not free...

I think Alicante has the right idea on this one.

If you want to use our airport, then you use air bridges. If you don't want to use the air bridges, then you're welcome to go to another airport that meets your needs better.

I would agree with you noxegen in principle but I think ALC backed down and have agreed to bus passengers off aircraft. If Cork want to attract something other than LCC then they need airbridges.

Don't want to drag this off onto a Cork discussion, but that demand can hardly be made when Cork has 15 stands and one airbridge. It also can't make decisions on the airport based on the desires of Wizzair and Ryanair when Aer Lingus are by far the bigger operator.