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xtypeman 8th Feb 2010 19:38

TA he is trying already to cut his acmi cost. Hello links air if i provide all the crew can we get the cost down....... Now use the £15,000 up front buy a cheap rating on credit in the poor FO name and use the rest to run your operation and hope that your sales cover the cost. I dont think so a rodent call out the pied pipper...

Xtype

xtypeman 8th Feb 2010 19:38

TA he is trying already to cut his acmi cost. Hello links air if i provide all the crew can we get the cost down....... Now use the £15,000 up front buy a cheap rating on credit in the poor FO name and use the rest to run your operation and hope that your sales cover the cost. I dont think so a rodent call out the pied pipper...

Xtype

TwinAisle 8th Feb 2010 19:44

Thanks, XTM. So the argument is that someone gives him 15 grand of their hard earned dosh, and he uses that to buy a rating at - say - 10 grand (can't imagine that J31 ratings are highly in demand....) and then offers the new pilot to the ACMI operator??

Non sequitor. If the ACMI operator needed crew, they would go and get their own....

... otherwise - as you say - call in Robert Browning's mate!

TA

TwinAisle 8th Feb 2010 19:44

Thanks, XTM. So the argument is that someone gives him 15 grand of their hard earned dosh, and he uses that to buy a rating at - say - 10 grand (can't imagine that J31 ratings are highly in demand....) and then offers the new pilot to the ACMI operator??

Non sequitor. If the ACMI operator needed crew, they would go and get their own....

... otherwise - as you say - call in Robert Browning's mate!

TA

learjet50 8th Feb 2010 21:55

Capt sunshine

Thanks for your reply I never take offence to anything people say about me.
all have there own opinion I write Mine However Varsity Express is a Joke.

Never will make Money apart for Mr H

The C A A are weak in these matters Linksiar or who ever have J31 they need to use Idiot comes along and before we know we have a Sked Flt
from Oxford to Edinburgh ???

NO BODY HAS ANSWERED MY QUESTION AS YET

HOW MANY PAX HAVE THEY CARRIED ??? Not a Lot




Linksair Hope u have got your Money Up front because you will need it for Mr Euro control and Mr Landing/Handling OXF/EDI



I WISH YOU ALL WELL

learjet50 8th Feb 2010 21:55

Capt sunshine

Thanks for your reply I never take offence to anything people say about me.
all have there own opinion I write Mine However Varsity Express is a Joke.

Never will make Money apart for Mr H

The C A A are weak in these matters Linksiar or who ever have J31 they need to use Idiot comes along and before we know we have a Sked Flt
from Oxford to Edinburgh ???

NO BODY HAS ANSWERED MY QUESTION AS YET

HOW MANY PAX HAVE THEY CARRIED ??? Not a Lot




Linksair Hope u have got your Money Up front because you will need it for Mr Euro control and Mr Landing/Handling OXF/EDI



I WISH YOU ALL WELL

Cloud1 8th Feb 2010 22:04

You seem to have misunderstood my post, I was only having some fun with you. I could not care less about your grammar or spelling, we (or rather I) only come on here for aviation related news, rumours etc and not to judge you on whether you can string a sentence together or spell a word correctly. :ok:

Back to the airline, I personally cannot see it being succesful but there is no point in us debating this before the airline even gets airborne. When is its first day of flying, March 01st?

Cloud1 8th Feb 2010 22:04

You seem to have misunderstood my post, I was only having some fun with you. I could not care less about your grammar or spelling, we (or rather I) only come on here for aviation related news, rumours etc and not to judge you on whether you can string a sentence together or spell a word correctly. :ok:

Back to the airline, I personally cannot see it being succesful but there is no point in us debating this before the airline even gets airborne. When is its first day of flying, March 01st?

learjet50 8th Feb 2010 22:10

cLOUD 1

No offence taken we are only here to pass our comments

Sorry to all i thought start date was Feb 1 its in fact March 1

Sorry again


Regards

learjet50 8th Feb 2010 22:10

cLOUD 1

No offence taken we are only here to pass our comments

Sorry to all i thought start date was Feb 1 its in fact March 1

Sorry again


Regards

Groundloop 9th Feb 2010 08:13


If the ACMI operator needed crew, they would go and get their own....
Not necessarily. After all Ryanair have pilots not employed by RYR but by Brookfield and contracted to RYR.

Groundloop 9th Feb 2010 08:13


If the ACMI operator needed crew, they would go and get their own....
Not necessarily. After all Ryanair have pilots not employed by RYR but by Brookfield and contracted to RYR.

Captivep 9th Feb 2010 08:15

Surely it's more likely that the first flight will be on April 1st! :)

Joking aside, this is following much of the underlying pattern of the Alpha One debacle (with perhaps some questionable HR practices to boot) but Mr Halstead's ability to get publicity is extraordinary (please don't use that as a quote, Martin - it's not a compliment).

Captivep 9th Feb 2010 08:15

Surely it's more likely that the first flight will be on April 1st! :)

Joking aside, this is following much of the underlying pattern of the Alpha One debacle (with perhaps some questionable HR practices to boot) but Mr Halstead's ability to get publicity is extraordinary (please don't use that as a quote, Martin - it's not a compliment).

TwinAisle 9th Feb 2010 08:48

Sort of agree, Groundloop - but the difference is that Ryanair don't employ the crew and then give them to the wet lessor doing their flying....

If I were a cynic, a few questions spring to mind...

1. How much funding has this got?
2. How much will it need (answer - pots, this is the airline business, and they are starting a new route with no history, no airline experience, and they are taking all the ticket risk - since they are going to pay the lessor whether they have any pax or not)
3. If points 1 and 2 are not aligned, where is the money coming from?

"Yes, please sign on the dotted line, and we'll get you a TR. Thanks for the cheque. We'll send your details across in three months when you have passed to our flight provider...."

Calling Wee Weasley Welshman.... bet he will have some pithy and accurate thoughts on this....

TA

TwinAisle 9th Feb 2010 08:48

Sort of agree, Groundloop - but the difference is that Ryanair don't employ the crew and then give them to the wet lessor doing their flying....

If I were a cynic, a few questions spring to mind...

1. How much funding has this got?
2. How much will it need (answer - pots, this is the airline business, and they are starting a new route with no history, no airline experience, and they are taking all the ticket risk - since they are going to pay the lessor whether they have any pax or not)
3. If points 1 and 2 are not aligned, where is the money coming from?

"Yes, please sign on the dotted line, and we'll get you a TR. Thanks for the cheque. We'll send your details across in three months when you have passed to our flight provider...."

Calling Wee Weasley Welshman.... bet he will have some pithy and accurate thoughts on this....

TA

Captivep 10th Feb 2010 12:59

And the latest news (verbatim from the website) is...

"Europe’s newest regional operator, Varsity Express (www.flyvarsity.com) will offer a second week-daily service to Edinburgh from London Oxford from 5 April in response to demand, one month after its scheduled debut on 1 March, the company announced today. It will also add a second destination from Oxford – to Newcastle, gateway to the north east. Flights will initially run every afternoon from Monday to Friday, with introductory fares from £49 one way, including taxes and charges.
New Timetable effective 5 April
LNQ601 Depart Oxford 0800 Arrive Edinburgh 0930
LNQ610 Depart Edinburgh 1000 Arrive Newcastle 1030
LNQ610 Depart Newcastle 1045 Arrive Oxford 1200
LNQ611 Depart Oxford 1430 Arrive Newcastle 1545
LNQ611 Depart Newcastle 1600 Arrive Edinburgh 1630
LNQ602 Depart Edinburgh 1730 Arrive Oxford 1900
All Varsity flights will be operated by BAE Jetstream 31 aircraft and the company is close to finalising the use of a second aircraft. Both will be based at London Oxford Airport, where Varsity is taking office space.
Promotion of the Oxford-Edinburgh route started last month and forward bookings have exceeded expectation. In the first two weeks, where every seat is available at £49 one way, bookings have been especially high north to south. For the Oxfordshire region Varsity has enlisted the support of Great Experience Travel. The Witney-based company is assisting with marketing and promotion of the route, in conjunction with hotel and golf packages.
“We are delighted to be announcing a second UK route today,” said Varsity Express Director Martin Halstead. “Newcastle is a popular university city and we expect a good mix of business travellers, many from the automotive industry and VFR and leisure traffic.” Newcastle is also renowned for its music and arts centres, shopping and exciting night life. As such the city is a popular short break destination in the UK.
Onboard Varsity will offer a business class style service, with all-leather seating, serving complimentary tea, coffee and water, plus a small snack. There will be a range of other onboard refreshments available to purchase on board, including soft and alcoholic drinks, all served by an inflight attendant. The aircraft is on the AOC of Humberside-based LinksAir. Flying crew will be provided by Varsity."


Captivep 10th Feb 2010 12:59

And the latest news (verbatim from the website) is...

"Europe’s newest regional operator, Varsity Express (www.flyvarsity.com) will offer a second week-daily service to Edinburgh from London Oxford from 5 April in response to demand, one month after its scheduled debut on 1 March, the company announced today. It will also add a second destination from Oxford – to Newcastle, gateway to the north east. Flights will initially run every afternoon from Monday to Friday, with introductory fares from £49 one way, including taxes and charges.
New Timetable effective 5 April
LNQ601 Depart Oxford 0800 Arrive Edinburgh 0930
LNQ610 Depart Edinburgh 1000 Arrive Newcastle 1030
LNQ610 Depart Newcastle 1045 Arrive Oxford 1200
LNQ611 Depart Oxford 1430 Arrive Newcastle 1545
LNQ611 Depart Newcastle 1600 Arrive Edinburgh 1630
LNQ602 Depart Edinburgh 1730 Arrive Oxford 1900
All Varsity flights will be operated by BAE Jetstream 31 aircraft and the company is close to finalising the use of a second aircraft. Both will be based at London Oxford Airport, where Varsity is taking office space.
Promotion of the Oxford-Edinburgh route started last month and forward bookings have exceeded expectation. In the first two weeks, where every seat is available at £49 one way, bookings have been especially high north to south. For the Oxfordshire region Varsity has enlisted the support of Great Experience Travel. The Witney-based company is assisting with marketing and promotion of the route, in conjunction with hotel and golf packages.
“We are delighted to be announcing a second UK route today,” said Varsity Express Director Martin Halstead. “Newcastle is a popular university city and we expect a good mix of business travellers, many from the automotive industry and VFR and leisure traffic.” Newcastle is also renowned for its music and arts centres, shopping and exciting night life. As such the city is a popular short break destination in the UK.
Onboard Varsity will offer a business class style service, with all-leather seating, serving complimentary tea, coffee and water, plus a small snack. There will be a range of other onboard refreshments available to purchase on board, including soft and alcoholic drinks, all served by an inflight attendant. The aircraft is on the AOC of Humberside-based LinksAir. Flying crew will be provided by Varsity."



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