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Evanelpus 18th Aug 2010 12:41


and by the name of "Luke Smith"...
I know it's easy to call yourself Fred one day and Luke the next but surely for the kind of position he applied for, he must have had to produce some kind of legal documents (ie passport, driving license) at some point in the interview process?

Beggars belief, someone ought to send this link to them.

Newforest2 18th Aug 2010 15:28

Don't worry, this is being watched. I have been contacted by the MIB. ;)

Captivep 19th Aug 2010 16:20

Not that I want to be the first to speak well of Mr Halstead, but the photo of Luke Thingummy on the BVI News website is not him...

Captivep 31st Aug 2010 15:12

So he's not going to be prosecuted...

BBC News - Probe into Varsity Express at Oxford Airport dropped


Police have confirmed they are no longer investigating claims of fraud involving a company which ran flights between Oxford and Edinburgh.
Services by Varsity Express, set up by entrepreneur Martin Halstead, started in March but were cancelled within a week.
Earlier, Thames Valley police said they would launch an investigation following complaints.
In a statement, the force said the inquiry showed no offence had occurred.
It said: "Thames Valley Police can confirm that all the interested parties in this case were written to last week and told that this was a civil matter.
"While we appreciate this may not be the response they were hoping for, unfortunately the investigation showed that no crime had been committed and this was a civil matter, therefore Thames Valley Police are unable to take any further action."
The cancellation of the service left some passengers stranded in Scotland unable to return to Oxford Airport.
Mr Halstead denied he, or the company, committed fraud.

TwinAisle 31st Aug 2010 15:44


showed that no crime had been committed and this was a civil matter
What about misrepresentation? This was the guy who obtained services by using a false name!

Words fail me.

I hope he is sued, but how much money does he have?

TA

Evanelpus 1st Sep 2010 08:06

....and the police are mystified why the British public have absolutely no confidence in them.

This beggars belief!

MerchantVenturer 1st Sep 2010 11:23

I don't see why the police are getting it in the neck for this.

Down the years many sets of circumstances have fallen one side or the other of the borderline as to what is criminal and what is civil.

Remember also that the police no longer have the responsibility to prosecute criminal offences - it's the job of the Crown Prosecution Service to decide whether a person should be charged with a criminal offence, and if so, what that offence should be.

Clearly, if the evidence suggested no criminal offence had been committed then there could be only one outcome.

Just because many of us might think that the criminal law has been breached in any given set of circumstances doesn't mean it has been and, in any case, most of us are not legally trained and rarely if ever are privy to all the facts surrounding an investigation.

If anyone is to blame for the sometimes blurred position of the criminal law vis-a-vis the civil law it's the law makers, ie Parliament.

Captivep 1st Sep 2010 11:40

The only question now is whether it's worth his creditors taking action to try and retrieve any money he's got left; even if there's nothing they could at least drive him into bankruptcy.

learjet50 1st Sep 2010 22:40

Un believeable

The Man is atotal rouge and crook what about the poor pepole he conned out of Money for type ratings etc

Still the police will do u for 34 MPH in a 30 Limit but not put these tosstossers were they belong

Groundloop 2nd Sep 2010 09:22


Still the police will do u for 34 MPH in a 30 Limit but not put these tosstossers were they belong
Once again Learjet50, you never let facts get in the way of a good rant. As mentioned above the decision to prosecute or not prosecute is NOT taken by the Police but by a bunch of pen-pushing civil servants called the Crown Prosecution Service.

TSR2 2nd Sep 2010 10:23


Still the police will do u for 34 MPH in a 30 Limit
And so they should, after all you are breaking the law. If you think this is wrong, lobby your MP for a change in the law.

01475 28th Oct 2010 20:40

Mr Halstead is trying to erase his embarrassing history from Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiped...2nd_nomination)

If anyone has any well thought out, reasoned, calm and neutral comments as to why they should not, ...

Aero Mad 28th Oct 2010 21:18

If his Wikipedia article gets deleted, I'll write his biography. He deserves to be documented :p

01475 28th Oct 2010 21:22

Oops - link didn't work.

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Martin Halstead (2nd nomination) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No RYR for me 29th Oct 2010 12:56

Nobody at GoBVI figured out who he is?:rolleyes:

Pilot Positive 29th Oct 2010 17:49

Bad egg in the barrel...
 
Was the final decision to Keep his profile? It appears so....and it would be a warning to others.

However in terms of his aviation profile lets hope its sufficiently prominent to prevent him entering into any kind of aviation related activity ever again. :ok:

Cyrano 29th Oct 2010 20:23


Originally Posted by Pilot Positive (Post 6025716)
Was the final decision to Keep his profile?

I count 9 actual votes so far - 6 "keep" and 3 "delete"...but 2 of the 3 "delete" votes are by users who haven't done anything else on Wikipedia and whose identities were both created in a 30-minute period yesterday evening (so if one were suspiciously minded :rolleyes: one might suspect sock puppets...) The vote process usually runs for 7 days and I think there's another 6 to go.


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