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ben_keghead 31st Mar 2010 15:28

The 2 EZYs came to LPL and didnt return until this afternoon

Torque2 1st Apr 2010 10:28

I am surprised that no-one has remarked on the effect that SSV becoming insolvent will have on the TUI summer schedule out of BFS. Perhaps its not relevant.

BFS101 8th Apr 2010 12:57

Sorry, but can't find the BHD thread, and thought this may be of interest to majority in the Belfast area...

Ryanair Regrets 18 month delay in runway extension at Belfast City Airport

News : Ryanair Regrets 18 Month Delay in Runway Extension at Belfast?


Ryanair is concerned that there is now a real possibility that the runway at Belfast City may not be lengthened, if the results of this public inquiry are unsuccessful.

True Blue 8th Apr 2010 14:55

Jet2 to launch Gva in the winter once per week. Competition with Easyjet. Why would they not consider the likes of Sofia where there is a market and no competition?

True Blue

Keyvon 8th Apr 2010 15:07

@ true blue

It will be probably operated also for local ski-holidays operators, with the rest of seats sold directly by Jet2.

globetrotter79 9th Apr 2010 08:08

For the time being, BFS-Chambery has not appeared in their booking system (correct me if wrong, but this has operated in other years??), so I guess the BFS-GVA is effectively a replacement of this..but with some more tour operator support

airhumberside 10th Apr 2010 17:05

Only because the Winter 2009-10 season finishes today. Today should be the last flight on the route based on what Jet 2 currently have on sale

mutleyshriek 12th Apr 2010 02:28

Surely (because of the public enquiry that will now take place over Belfast Citys runway plans) this will give Aldergrove a chance to prove to everyone involved that Belfast does not need two airports. Every sane person knows that Ryanairs entry into Belfast was a knee jerk reaction to Aer Lingus opening a base at BFS. Brian Ambrose has been dancing to Mr O'learys merry tune and has hidden vital information from the CAA who are not impressed. A public enquiry is the best way forward to ensure a transparent and open avaition policy for the region, and two international airports that are twelve miles apart is not the way to proceed. One airport with lots of investment in it, thats the way forward.

david1994 12th Apr 2010 08:10

Maybe FR will leave ship BHD and head to ship BFS. I always thought BFS would off been a better option for FR.

gate 22 12th Apr 2010 08:53


Maybe FR will leave ship BHD and head to ship BFS. I always thought BFS would off been a better option for FR
FR seem to suggest that BFS is not an option, would this be because-
1. BFS is too expensive
2. BFS won't let them in (protecting is own services, EG in return will EZY bring back LTN)
3. They both don't get on, a bit like what apparently happened at CWL.

As for the runway extension at BHD someone mentioned on here that it was a way of beefing up the facility for a sale, in that the current owners don't build it but pass it on.

BFS101 12th Apr 2010 13:54


Maybe FR will leave ship BHD and head to ship BFS

Michael O'Leary quoted in the Belfast Telegraph. You got to laugh at this guys hypocrisy. It's been stated to death on here, but to moan about the journey from Belfast to BFS, while advertising Beauvais as Paris and Girona as Barcelona, is laughable.


And he ruled out ever launching new routes from Belfast International Airport if the public inquiry went against the runway, saying that 800,000 Ryanair passengers a year “don’t want to make the long and lonely journey to the shores of Lough Neagh”.

tigger2k8 12th Apr 2010 16:54

i think hes been reading comments from some people on this forum and throwing them into his statements. If you think about it theres thousands of people who make the 100+ mile trip to DUB from the Belfast area every year to catch flights, so i doubt people would have a problem travelling to BFS:}

While EZY and EI are at BFS, FR will not be welcome... if FR was smart, they'd be bugging LDY to upgrade its facilities, the amount of people who travel from the LDY area to the Belfast airports is higher than you'd think.. so theres lots of potential which is being ignore by most airlines, although no doubt population density is why everyone is focused on Belfast

as with landing rates and fees, i thought BHD was slightly more expensive than BFS due to its city location? im not an expert in landing fees/rates as i have never needed to land a plane anywhere :oh:

Anyway, for anyone who is interested:

--WHSmith is moving to a new unit opposite the food court
--Interserve will soon disappear from BFS and OCS is taking over
--Work on the drainage system is continuing.. work round stands 25,26,27 is finished in time for the main summer flights, unfortunately an area in the busiest part needs attention as the drain subsidence is really bad... knocks stands 18,21,22 and 24 out of action, 22 ofcourse is the airbridge and a stand suitable for larger aircraft such as the 757,767 and 330..
-- EZY MXP charter was for 2 weeks only, for topflight.ie i think.. could see more charters this summer

speedbirdATC 12th Apr 2010 17:35


if FR was smart, they'd be bugging LDY to upgrade its facilities
At LDY the terminal is currently being extended along with the car park. The runway has been extended, as has the main apron. All taxiways are being upgraded. Runway 26 has got a new ILS installed and runway 08 will have an offset ILS in use around May. A new DME and NDB have also been installed. What more could RYR want?

jetstreamtechrecords 12th Apr 2010 18:35

What more could RYR want?
 
What more could RYR want?

Everything for nothing...

Facelookbovvered 12th Apr 2010 22:40

I really don't know what to make of the BHD v BFS debate, i had to travel from Belfast to Derby a few times last month and used both bmibaby and Ryanair from BFS and BHD respectively, both routes were busy, Ryanair flights had more pax, but a lot of the baby pax were suites and probably like me book the day before so who knows? its handy having both it keeps the prices down,

I don't understand why BHD needs a longer runway if you can get a A320 out of there whats the point? it never going to be BHD to the states? is it

I like city airports for quick business trips, but if they are too busy it defeats the object, London City is great but you don't get the operators banging on about wanting a longer runway, have Ryanair got the right aircraft, Easyjet to LTN seems to work well enough, can some one explain it to me?

Rinty 12th Apr 2010 22:41

Mutleyshreik

Moderated. The ball please, not the player.

Even Michael O'learys greatest critics would acknowledge that he is a very shrewd busnessman - to suggest that he somehow opened an airline base in BHD just to annoy Aer Lingus is nonsense.

To suggest that Brian Ambrose has willfully misled the CAA is potentially libelous (or is it slanderous) and also just plain incorrect. Have you read the CAA report -perhaps you should.

The public enquiry is an enquiry into a length of runway which will enable aircraft which currently use the airport to fly further. It has nothing to do with an aviation strategy for NI. This was covered in the White paper of 2003 which advocated growth at both Belfast airports.

BTW according to Google the airports are 14.5 miles apart as the crow flies, 29 miles by road (M2) (assuming that you're not flying or walking across the fields) - but I know that you're not one to let the truth get in the way of a good story.

Please someone restart the BHD thread:{

mutleyshriek 12th Apr 2010 23:18

Rinty,

The CAA produced a report and concluded that BCA withheld information relative to noise and effects on the local community. The boundaries that BCA stated had been breached and would get worse with an extension. The CAA recomended a public enquiry also. As for Ryanair, this was their reaction to Aer Lingus entering the Belfast market and they knew the constraints of operating from BHD. Total knee jerk reaction from O,Leary. 36 months ago Brian Ambrose stated that BHD would never seek an extension to the runway in the Belfast Telegraph. I have the paper on my knee at the minute, so be careful who you accuse of being libelous.......I have worked in this Industry for many years and kept cut outs and press releases on airline activity in Belfast for a long long time...I cant be libeled for speaking the truth...May i suggest you visit belfastcityairportwatch website. Btw you know nothing about me whatsoever and I am certantly not ignorant.

gate 22 13th Apr 2010 00:00


BTW according to Google the airports are 14.5 miles apart as the crow flies, 29 miles by road (M2) (assuming that you're not flying or walking across the fields) - but I know that you're not one to let the truth get in the way of a good story.

Here lies the problem with you BHD users - oh and MOL. There is a quicker way than travelling 29 miles. Travel along the M3 from BHD, towards Belfast, then join the M2-country bound leaving at the A57 and follow the signs to International airport. (this is under 21 miles). Or go via the Crumlin Road and the journey from BHD-BFS is around 16.5 miles.

gate 22 13th Apr 2010 00:03


BTW according to Google the airports are 14.5 miles apart as the crow flies
Perimeter fence to perimeter fence is 12.77 miles therefore this is how far apart they are.

mutleyshriek 13th Apr 2010 01:07

Thank you gate 22. I rest my case.

I just stated facts about the predatory practices of FR and MOL. All true and the world and his wife knows it. If EI were not in BFS for sure FR would certantly not be at BHD knowing the contraints that airfield offered. Ive read the CAA report and it was damming of BHDs application for the extention. I also have in black and white Brian Ambrose dismissing any plans for a runway extention. He clearly stated "we will not be seeking an extention to the runway at Belfast City Airport now or at any time in the future". Harp the arrival of FR and all things change. MOL may try to influence governments in Dublin but his ignorant rants have fallen on deaf ears in the North. Hes not getting his way so his toys are certantly being thrown out of the pram as far as Bhds runway, oh thats not far is it. Good on you Mr Poots....


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