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tigger2k8 1st Mar 2010 13:04

read that article the other day, more than likely a typo

tigger2k8 2nd Mar 2010 13:26

well the last EZY 737 positioned out to LTN today (G-EZKG), another A319 should arrive within the next day or 2...

TCX isnt having much luck the last 2 days, the early morning flight has been delayed by a few hours due to technical problems on 2 seperate aircraft (something with the tail..)

gate 22 2nd Mar 2010 15:16

Why do the operators at BFS not take advantage of the 'extended' opening hours? Last night the last flight in from London was around 2110 EI from LHR. There were no domestic scheduled flights after this. It is a bit ironic that BHD has later domestic arrivals than BFS. I noticed that all the EZY flights were in bed at BFS by 21.00 (correct me if I am wrong). The last EZY London flight was in at 20.00!!!!

tigger2k8 2nd Mar 2010 17:01

always happens in the winter time... everything comes in reasonably early.. once summer starts and aircraft do extra rotations the domestics get pushed back an hour or so... also during summer you will see more aircraft arriving back between 2300-0330

eastconsbrook 2nd Mar 2010 17:31

Early nights
 
Must be because every one wants to fly into BHD!!!:E

Ok Have my mature head on now
Any sign of new EI / RE flights from BFS?
They seem to be doing a flybe and having more routes than planes
It will be interesting to see as they will be going head to head with a few already established BFS routes

tigger2k8 2nd Mar 2010 19:23

Apart from EI's ALC route and the extra LHR flight (and ofcourse the summer routes BCN, FAO, FCO) theres nothing new... doubt we will see any RE flights as the deal between EI and RE is that RE will basically feed passengers to its hubs, which isnt required at BFS due the routes offered from BFS being widely available at most UK/IRE airports and with most people using the option to transfer at LHR or drive about 2 hours to DUB

EI should do well this year they've got all the popular routes that N.I travellers love.. was plenty of demand last year even though we were in a recession, so should be better this year, shocked by them not running BFS-CDG as it was a good route in summer with disney land etc etc...

sam1993 2nd Mar 2010 19:41

Travel Service Airlines will take over the charter flights previously operated by BMI this summer. The flights will operate from mid June to mid July again! :ok:

EI-BUD 3rd Mar 2010 11:19


Why do the operators at BFS not take advantage of the 'extended' opening hours? Last night the last flight in from London was around 2110 EI from LHR. There were no domestic scheduled flights after this. It is a bit ironic that BHD has later domestic arrivals than BFS. I noticed that all the EZY flights were in bed at BFS by 21.00 (correct me if I am wrong). The last EZY London flight was in at 20.00!!!!
I flew last night Tuesday BFS LGW at 2045 and there were 32 passengers, other flights to GLA & LPL Leaving around the same time and were as quiet as mine. I would suggest in this recession that demand is very soft as is the case in most businesses couple this with probably too much capacity and price competiton.

DIRECTTANGODELTA 3rd Mar 2010 15:00

Flew in on the first EZy from Newcastle on Tuesday with 35 pax and back again to Newcastle today full.

Plenty of terminal work going on, will be nice when its finished, I thought the place looks very under-utilised.

ATC kept busy with them noisy AAC Islanders!!:}:}

tigger2k8 3rd Mar 2010 20:46

yup, between Jan-March and Oct to the start of Dec tuesdays and wednesdays are the quietest days of the week, has always been that way for the last 3 years now

speedbirdATC 3rd Mar 2010 21:15

Whats the timetabling situation with Orlando flights this year at BFS?

NWSRG 4th Mar 2010 20:18

Came in on the CO 757 today...had flown to EWR from LAS in the very same aircraft that then took us on to BFS.

Last time I used CO on this route the approach to 25 was a steep circling base leg, finishing high and left of the glideslope, but with an excellent piece of hand flying to touchdown neatly on the centreline.

Today, with less than perfect visibility, and an approach to 07, we found ourselves high (4 white PAPIs) and about 20 degrees right of the glideslope (at about 5 miles)...again, a clearly hand flown final approach (complete with a touch of sideslip I believe) and we touched down very neatly.

Any BFS ATC folk like to comment on the CO guys? My impression is that they have more latitude in actually flying the aircraft than their UK counterparts...only a perception, so keen to hear comments!

As for the 757...just a wonderful machine!

eastern wiseguy 5th Mar 2010 14:53


about 20 degrees right of the glideslope (at about 5 miles)
Good trick...it's a VOR approach with no glideslope.:ok:

q1W2e3R4t5 5th Mar 2010 15:04

20 degrees right of a glideslope?

how does that work? I think you mean Localiser.

Explain how you judged 4 whites on the papi, 20 degrees and distance?

Doesnt sound like a very stable approach to me.

eastern wiseguy 5th Mar 2010 15:18


I think you mean Localiser.
No he doesn't see above.

with alacrity 5th Mar 2010 16:37

VOR/DME Approach at BFS Runway 07
 
This chart might explain why aircraft are to the right of the runway centre line. See link below: -

http://www.nats-uk.ead-it.com/aip/cu...GAA_8-2_en.pdf

The DME descent distance is now 7.5 and is offset 16 degrees.
It is a non precision approach and is flown manually until the pilot gets visual reference.

NWSRG 6th Mar 2010 09:16

Eastern and alacrity,

Thanks for that...makes sense and sounds like what I encountered.

Qw...

I could see the White PAPIs...and judged the distance as a BFS PPL!

q1W2e3R4t5 6th Mar 2010 16:28

If you could tell you were offset from the centre line, had four whites on the papis and were 5 miles out all from looking out a side window in a 75 your a better pilot than me.

eastern wiseguy 6th Mar 2010 18:39


If you could tell you were offset from the centre line, had four whites on the papis and were 5 miles out all from looking out a side window in a 75 your a better pilot than me.
Depending on the wind and hence heading versus track, a little local knowledge and good eyesight.....he possibly could be :}:}:ok:

q1W2e3R4t5 7th Mar 2010 16:17

With a VFR chart in hand and If the wind gave you a 45 degree difference in heading v track to see the lights, then maybe you could :rolleyes:


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