Ok, either my head is going mad, and I dont think it is just yet... Or theres a trigger happy moderator who is deleting posts, would be nice to get a pm with the reason as to why, especially when the content was related to the topic of conversation, while posts filled with rumors people dream up stay

Apparently we are expecting two Qatari C17's at some stage tomorrow..delivery flights?

Hey Eastern, had a Qtr C17 in here a few times and it looks pretty impressive in the civil paint.

Tigger, can you even imagine how excited the mods must be when they log on and find another post on one of the 4 million Belfast forums, I`m sure your lost post was ground breaking and we all share your pain, stop crying man and do some work lol!!

i wouldn't say ground breaking... but it was related the the MXP charter and info on the tech BHD flight

im not crying i just want an explanation as there was nothing offensive and there was nothing leaking top secret information :oh:, work? whats that? :E

iSo what about the MXP charter, what is the story?.
It's good that all knowledge of what is going on at airports is posted even rumours. Maybe a BHD spy works as a mod and didn't want any info about the BHD EZY incident posted.

David had asked who it was being run on behalf for, at the minute i have no idea, but the only information i have is:

--EZY 685
--1400 Departure from BFS
--149 booked (same as the VBS, 149 appeared to be the max, even though the VBS route was operated by one of the 319s for the later half of the schedule)
--Begins Saturday 27th March, unsure of the duration but probably will run throughout summer

as for the BHD tech aircraft, the information i posted was common knowledge, and the PAX who were bussed to BFS were all told the reason behind it... its a good job that BFS existed and had aircraft available otherwise there could have been over 300 people having difficulty getting to their destination..

27 March is a very early start for a summer charter programme, especially to northern Italy. If summer long, a May or early June start would have seemed more realistic. Will be interesting to know whose behind this, and how long the flights will operate for.

I see Thomas Cook group are reinstating a number of destinations over the peak summer end of June / July period. Rhodes that was to be season long, Saturday night flight, and then pulled completely, is back for peak period on a Wednesday. Corfu that was to be peak only Monday flight, then completely pulled, and now back for peak period operating on a Friday. Fuerteventura back on sale for peak period, operating on a Saturday. May be more, just a quick scan...

The Thomas Cook group seem very adaptable, especially at Belfast, adding flights and aircraft over the busy June / July holidays and destinations served peak only, whereas the Tui group appear very static, both in terms of capacity changes through the season, and also of destinations offered.

So another rumour from the EI thread, according to wiki EI start BFS/NYC in June 2010.

Also being carried on the Aer Lingus thread at the moment. From Aer Lingus wikipedia page:

Presumably utter rubbish?

I wouldn't waste time talking about this one guys.

Servisair - jet2, bmi, co, tcx and charters

Menzies - ezy and ei, wizzair and dubrovnik airlines if they come back

Belfast ground handling is freight only

As for the ei rumor, could be true as theres been menzies staff sniffing round the airbridge but that could be for anything

bizzare! - never heard of EZY doin a charter!

Neither had I until they started bfs-vbs for a ski company at the start of the year

The posts that we keep having to remove are spotter posts. If you want a spotter post to remain visible please make it in this thread:

http://www.pprune.org/spectators-bal...-spotters.html

co94 ewr - langford lodge
 

My dad works for Langford Lodge out near Crumlin, which runway is directly underneath the approach for runway 07. This morning, he phoned me and said that a continental plane accidently mistaken their runway for Belfast Internationals and at the last minute they must have realized it was too short and put on full thrusters and avoided landing. I do trust my dad in saying this, but would anyone else have any more info on this?

It says on the BFS ATIS that crews should be aware of Langford Lodge on approach to 07. Also it would be odd that neither the approach or tower controller would have failed to notice the lower than usual altitude on final. Also the DME would have been wrong and there are no lights/PAPI's at Langford Lodge.

Saying that its not impossible for it to have happened, as we all should recall RYR9884 landing at Ballykelly a good 5 miles east of LDY!

Arrivals Board at Dublin airport shows 2 Easyjet 319s landing around 9, Liverpool and Newcastle.very unusual to see Easyjet landing there. Evening LHR BFS EI also diverted down to Dublin.

Some weather beating about out there tonight, not sure if the remaining arrivals will get in tonight, however EI have expected arrival times on the arrivals board. Paris is showing as still expected, not sure what the story with that is.

EI-BUD

Quote: My dad works for Langford Lodge out near Crumlin, which runway is directly underneath the approach for runway 07. This morning, he phoned me and said that a continental plane accidently mistaken their runway for Belfast Internationals and at the last minute they must have realized it was too short and put on full thrusters and avoided landing. I do trust my dad in saying this, but would anyone else have any more info on this?


This happened before a few years ago but I cant see it happening now as since that incident BFS ATC now always ask pilots to confirm that runway lights are in sight before giving landing clearance when using runway 07 so I cannot see them mistaking langford for BFS. As speedbirdATC mentioned, no AGL or PAPI's at Langford.

The EI malaga flight also diverted to dublin tonight too although is expected to make its way up to BFS shortly. 4 bfs diverts in total to DUB 2 EI and 2EZY aircraft. Its blowing like a hurricane up ere tonight.

Bad news for BFS today!, EI are to suspend all routes except LHR for the winter although ''All routes will be monitered, with best performing continuing to operate'' so just 1 EI A320 at BFS from 31/10/10.

The 2 EZYs came to LPL and didnt return until this afternoon

I am surprised that no-one has remarked on the effect that SSV becoming insolvent will have on the TUI summer schedule out of BFS. Perhaps its not relevant.

Sorry, but can't find the BHD thread, and thought this may be of interest to majority in the Belfast area...

Ryanair Regrets 18 month delay in runway extension at Belfast City Airport

News : Ryanair Regrets 18 Month Delay in Runway Extension at Belfast?

Jet2 to launch Gva in the winter once per week. Competition with Easyjet. Why would they not consider the likes of Sofia where there is a market and no competition?

True Blue

@ true blue

It will be probably operated also for local ski-holidays operators, with the rest of seats sold directly by Jet2.

For the time being, BFS-Chambery has not appeared in their booking system (correct me if wrong, but this has operated in other years??), so I guess the BFS-GVA is effectively a replacement of this..but with some more tour operator support

Only because the Winter 2009-10 season finishes today. Today should be the last flight on the route based on what Jet 2 currently have on sale

Surely (because of the public enquiry that will now take place over Belfast Citys runway plans) this will give Aldergrove a chance to prove to everyone involved that Belfast does not need two airports. Every sane person knows that Ryanairs entry into Belfast was a knee jerk reaction to Aer Lingus opening a base at BFS. Brian Ambrose has been dancing to Mr O'learys merry tune and has hidden vital information from the CAA who are not impressed. A public enquiry is the best way forward to ensure a transparent and open avaition policy for the region, and two international airports that are twelve miles apart is not the way to proceed. One airport with lots of investment in it, thats the way forward.

Maybe FR will leave ship BHD and head to ship BFS. I always thought BFS would off been a better option for FR.

FR seem to suggest that BFS is not an option, would this be because-
1. BFS is too expensive
2. BFS won't let them in (protecting is own services, EG in return will EZY bring back LTN)
3. They both don't get on, a bit like what apparently happened at CWL.

As for the runway extension at BHD someone mentioned on here that it was a way of beefing up the facility for a sale, in that the current owners don't build it but pass it on.

i think hes been reading comments from some people on this forum and throwing them into his statements. If you think about it theres thousands of people who make the 100+ mile trip to DUB from the Belfast area every year to catch flights, so i doubt people would have a problem travelling to BFS:}

While EZY and EI are at BFS, FR will not be welcome... if FR was smart, they'd be bugging LDY to upgrade its facilities, the amount of people who travel from the LDY area to the Belfast airports is higher than you'd think.. so theres lots of potential which is being ignore by most airlines, although no doubt population density is why everyone is focused on Belfast

as with landing rates and fees, i thought BHD was slightly more expensive than BFS due to its city location? im not an expert in landing fees/rates as i have never needed to land a plane anywhere :oh:

Anyway, for anyone who is interested:

--WHSmith is moving to a new unit opposite the food court
--Interserve will soon disappear from BFS and OCS is taking over
--Work on the drainage system is continuing.. work round stands 25,26,27 is finished in time for the main summer flights, unfortunately an area in the busiest part needs attention as the drain subsidence is really bad... knocks stands 18,21,22 and 24 out of action, 22 ofcourse is the airbridge and a stand suitable for larger aircraft such as the 757,767 and 330..
-- EZY MXP charter was for 2 weeks only, for topflight.ie i think.. could see more charters this summer

At LDY the terminal is currently being extended along with the car park. The runway has been extended, as has the main apron. All taxiways are being upgraded. Runway 26 has got a new ILS installed and runway 08 will have an offset ILS in use around May. A new DME and NDB have also been installed. What more could RYR want?

What more could RYR want?
 

What more could RYR want?

Everything for nothing...

I really don't know what to make of the BHD v BFS debate, i had to travel from Belfast to Derby a few times last month and used both bmibaby and Ryanair from BFS and BHD respectively, both routes were busy, Ryanair flights had more pax, but a lot of the baby pax were suites and probably like me book the day before so who knows? its handy having both it keeps the prices down,

I don't understand why BHD needs a longer runway if you can get a A320 out of there whats the point? it never going to be BHD to the states? is it

I like city airports for quick business trips, but if they are too busy it defeats the object, London City is great but you don't get the operators banging on about wanting a longer runway, have Ryanair got the right aircraft, Easyjet to LTN seems to work well enough, can some one explain it to me?

Mutleyshreik

Moderated. The ball please, not the player.

Even Michael O'learys greatest critics would acknowledge that he is a very shrewd busnessman - to suggest that he somehow opened an airline base in BHD just to annoy Aer Lingus is nonsense.

To suggest that Brian Ambrose has willfully misled the CAA is potentially libelous (or is it slanderous) and also just plain incorrect. Have you read the CAA report -perhaps you should.

The public enquiry is an enquiry into a length of runway which will enable aircraft which currently use the airport to fly further. It has nothing to do with an aviation strategy for NI. This was covered in the White paper of 2003 which advocated growth at both Belfast airports.

BTW according to Google the airports are 14.5 miles apart as the crow flies, 29 miles by road (M2) (assuming that you're not flying or walking across the fields) - but I know that you're not one to let the truth get in the way of a good story.

Please someone restart the BHD thread:{

Rinty,

The CAA produced a report and concluded that BCA withheld information relative to noise and effects on the local community. The boundaries that BCA stated had been breached and would get worse with an extension. The CAA recomended a public enquiry also. As for Ryanair, this was their reaction to Aer Lingus entering the Belfast market and they knew the constraints of operating from BHD. Total knee jerk reaction from O,Leary. 36 months ago Brian Ambrose stated that BHD would never seek an extension to the runway in the Belfast Telegraph. I have the paper on my knee at the minute, so be careful who you accuse of being libelous.......I have worked in this Industry for many years and kept cut outs and press releases on airline activity in Belfast for a long long time...I cant be libeled for speaking the truth...May i suggest you visit belfastcityairportwatch website. Btw you know nothing about me whatsoever and I am certantly not ignorant.

Here lies the problem with you BHD users - oh and MOL. There is a quicker way than travelling 29 miles. Travel along the M3 from BHD, towards Belfast, then join the M2-country bound leaving at the A57 and follow the signs to International airport. (this is under 21 miles). Or go via the Crumlin Road and the journey from BHD-BFS is around 16.5 miles.

Perimeter fence to perimeter fence is 12.77 miles therefore this is how far apart they are.

Thank you gate 22. I rest my case.

I just stated facts about the predatory practices of FR and MOL. All true and the world and his wife knows it. If EI were not in BFS for sure FR would certantly not be at BHD knowing the contraints that airfield offered. Ive read the CAA report and it was damming of BHDs application for the extention. I also have in black and white Brian Ambrose dismissing any plans for a runway extention. He clearly stated "we will not be seeking an extention to the runway at Belfast City Airport now or at any time in the future". Harp the arrival of FR and all things change. MOL may try to influence governments in Dublin but his ignorant rants have fallen on deaf ears in the North. Hes not getting his way so his toys are certantly being thrown out of the pram as far as Bhds runway, oh thats not far is it. Good on you Mr Poots....