The flights you have mentioned would seem to have one thing in common and that is they are arrivals from airway N34 . That is to say they are inbound from the south west. The route for a 25 arrival would bring them over the city area from the direction of Lisburn. They WILL be below 6000 feet at some stage BUT they will be subject to a CDA . The noises you hear MAY be airframe noise as flap is extended.
I remember being alarmed at the noise of the "whisperjet" popping it's airbrake out until that was explained.

Noise from aircraft will always sound worse at night when the general ambient noise levels are lower.

At BFS we ALWAYS (underline and place in CAPS ) apply CDA's during the published hours.

As to your assertion that the noise profiles are not working I have no answer.I suggest you write to the airport and discuss it.

Perhaps you should think of something else to do in bed to take your mind off the "racket".:rolleyes:

The 'noise' lasts a long time as the aircraft is flying more slowly than it wants to due to the published CDA constraint. Given the tailwinds recently there will also be a good helping of speed brake in order to keep a reasonable descent going. Nothing will be going over the city below 4000ft in descent CDA or not. Much to do about little but if you want a quiet profile approach then let the aircraft manage it rather than radar vector. For what it's worth the CDA will always go out the window when the wind is a strong southerly - unless you want multiple go-arounds due instability to wake up Antrim with instead.

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Thanks

Dont think its worth writing as its no big deal
Cant sit beside BHD and complain about Aldergrove
JUst think its funny that BHD gets the blame from the locals even after their controllers are tucked up in bed!



Now what I do in bed..................thats on a differnt fourm!

Husky one...what do you mean "it will always go out the window "? Please enlighten me as I am genuinely puzzled by that statement.

Just been looking at the BFS website in relation to the 1 GBP drop off fee and I see that as a one liner at the bottom of the page they have added the caveat that a 10 minute provision has been made available for those not wishing to pay this. In the "long term" car park, bit devious or what. People used to the old system will drive to the front of the terminal and be caught before they realise that there is no way out without paying the fee, why can they not do what BHD have done and have a covered (mostly) walkway from the short stay and keep things somewhat normal.
Done in light of the Glasgow bombings my posterior, suppose the terriost can't afford the pound.
Stinks of extortion I'm afraid.
Been using BHD twice a month now 5/6 years but decided on BFS a few months ago and am committed to them until November, guess where I'll be going back to after that.

Despite the fact BFS has not put up the info about the free period in the long stay carpark on their website, it has been said on ALL of the news reports about it, so hopefully word has circulated, or is slowly getting out there... if people drive up infront of the terminal ignoring the bright yellow signs warning them of the charge and not to forget the media reports.. then they only have themselves to blame

tigger
With the greatest respect not everybody is a aware as you appear to be partictularly when not frequent travellers.
Why not have the free ten minutes in the short stay similar to BHD to avoid confusion? Why interduce the fee now when you couldn't park in front of the terminal for any length of time anyway before being moved on, how is this improving traffic flow!!!. I think we all can agree that the "security" slant is a bit of a red herring.
I haven't been home yet to see the big yellow signs that you mention but I can imagine that the traffic will be somewhat heavier on the route around the hotel when everybody catches on.
I'm sorry but what with the new security attitudes (unfriendly in the extreme) and this latest rip off Aldergrove is losing any respect I would have had for them.

I dont mean this in a cheeky way or anything, but you dont need to be a frequent traveller to have heard about it on the news or to see the yellow signs, which warn drivers before they even get to the mini-roundabout leading to the front of the terminal... i dont think theres 1 person who watches the news that doesnt know about the drop-off charge, as the week they announced it was a reasonably slow news week, so it took the headlines for a few days.. theres probably a small percentge of people who genuinely have not heard anything yet on the news, but trust me, those yellow signs stand out:yuk:

Obviously the scheme has 3 motives that i can think of, not in order..., 1. Security (it actually does) 2. Traffic flow and 3. Revenue..

1. Security - as said, now brings them into line with UK Gov. Guidelines, a perfect excuse to bring in the fee

2. Traffic Flow - should bring an end to people stopping their cars on the road through the airport, causing traffic to back-up, you would be surprised how congested that small stretch of road got especially when people couldnt accept the fact there was no spaces to pull in and just stopped on the road :oh:, so it does actually improve traffic flow.. traffic seems to move quite easily through the zone, however all it takes is for 1 person not to have £1 or to mess around and it could cause trouble

3. Revenue - an airport needs to make money... airlines wanting lower landing fee's, terminal investment, the ash disruption (they still had to have staff on site)

Obviously, placing the free parking period in the short-stay would have been more conveniant (although it seems quite packed of cars at the minute, so it could be a similar distance of a walk)... but it takes away the whole idea of the drop off charge, which the airport wants money from....

There hasn't been a mass amount of cars littering the airport roads, which im very surprised about (apart from the usual hard shoulder parkers that have always been there)...or dropping people off on the road since the charge came in, so it seems plenty of people are just accepting the charge... give it a month and it will all be forgotten about, there was the same media attention to LTN

won't be long until its the norm at airports, BHD has a nice road layout to introduce it... id be very surprised if they dont introduce something within the next few years... however a spokesman from BHD has only ruled out a trolley charge for this year, so we could see trolley charging appear at BHD first before any sort of drop off charge

i dont agree with the charge at all, but an airport is there to make money.. they are basically shopping centres with a runway... the way they see it is, if you pay £20-£600+ on a plane ticket, £1 isnt breaking the bank... if someone drops you off at the airport then giving them £1 wont make you poor.. and taxi drivers outside of the offical airport ones will just add the charge to the fare..

tigger
I agree that airports need to make money and an additional pound is not the end of the world but it's the precedence that charges like this set and the reasons given that galls slightly.
I haven't been home yet to see the new signs so I'll take your word that drivers are given good advance warning.

I saw the airline code CF on Belfast International Airport. I looked it up and found it was City Airlines. Do they do Cargo at the airport or what do they do?

Just a one off Aaron9890. Brought in the Rosenborg team to play Linfield :ok:.

Ah thats right i forgot about that... when do they leave

Not strictly to do with BFS, but in regard to the drop-off fee, and associated contension, found this similar article relating to EDI.

Edinburgh Airport drop off fee could be increased : Edinburgh Airport News Stories

In Northern Ireland the local representatives are up in arms about the £1 fee, yet in Scotland the Government officials are allegedly contemplating higher fees should £1 not change behaviour.

What is Adria Airlines doing in Belfast?
 

A airline code JP which is Aidria Airways is coming in to belfast at 0:20 and leaving at 1:20 for Osijek Croatia. But it dosent do charter or sheduled flights from here so what is it dong here

Canada?
 

Has anyone heard any chances of flights to Canada (ie YYZ Toronto) becoming available for next summer?

It would be great to have an old operator back eg. Transat :ok:

JN

Adria Airlines
 

Probably a football charter - a few European teams in N.Ireland tonight in Europa League action.

Aaron9890, the City Airlines left yesterday at around lunchtime... theres was also a 727 in yesterday, not sure if its still there.. also carrying a football team as far as im aware

JonnyBFS, no one will really know for a few months yet, could be round new year or later before anything is released.. if there is anything to release...

Monarch airways
 

MON8027 Heraklion 06:20 fligh due into belfast tomorrow morning... another team coming over.. or a new charter flight?? cargo?? anybody know

Bringing home the folks from the Goldtrail debacle?

Flew into Belfast (BFS) with Easyjet from Newcastle (NCL) on Friday 16th and was quite happy with how tidy the airport looked and how friendly the staff were in assisting us in getting to Belfast city centre and where to go and what to see.

On the way back out Monday 19th everything was all good until i got to security where i met who i consider to be the single most miserable person ive ever met. I had a sandwich clear bag with my toothpaste and aftershave in and then told me it wasnt clear enough even though he'd let my friend through 10 seconds before with the same bag, i looked at him and paused to which his reply was and take your shoes off aswell so i just smiled at him and did what he told me. When my bag went through he said something to the xray man who pulled my bag out of the other end of machine and put it down the side of the machine. I waited for the other security man to collect it and to go through it with me to which he replied "Theres nothing wrong with it so i dont know why he put it aside for" Other than that it was a great, fast transition through the airport even with the amount of pax about!