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tigger2k8 16th Jun 2010 13:58

this weeks EZY delays were due to air traffic strikes, last weeks were crew hours... just to seperate the 2 different sets of delays..

as for Air Transit, it was mentioned they had an interest in BFS but were looking for a subsidy to start operating, either they didn't get a subsidy or it hasn't been announced, but this was all rumored for 2011... so if the schedules are out and theres no mention of BFS, doesnt look good... id love a flight to Canada, some family over there... wouldn't mind heading over every year or 2... last time i went it was with GSM... but not its either go to LHR or jump in the car :rolleyes:

eastern wiseguy 16th Jun 2010 14:06

FRENCH ATC strikes less someone thinks of blaming me!!:=:p

ards_boy 19th Jun 2010 01:00

BFS is most certainly one of the worst and most unnecesarily restrictive airport I have seen I reckon some third world countries could easily give EGAA a run for its money!
The management should be taken to the likes of LHR or JFK and be shown how a proper and efficient airport is run!
I think the penny is starting to drop for customers of all breeds, you don't have to go far to find passengers who have many complaints about it and for crew coming in from other bases it is an embarassment! :mad: :ugh::suspect:

Rant over ......

victoria73 21st Jun 2010 11:13

victoria73
 
reference to question being asked about flights being avilable in 2011 to toronto airlines such as air transat and also a few other long haul airlines are asking for start up subsidy in reference to airlines bringing in crew from other airports to bfs during summer well thats up to the airline nothing to do with the airport management as what ards boy suggests

BFS101 21st Jun 2010 13:28

Would seem that EI have decided on their full winter schedule from Belfast. Barcelona is going to be operated X3 week, to replace Munich that operated last winter.

Surprised that they went for BCN, in competition with Easyjet that is up to X4 week over the winter. Would have thought Rome would even have been a better bet, if not going to introduce a new destination. Must feel their forward booking for the autumn are strong.

Pity we couldn't get a weekly Agadir like Dublin, with Thomson or Cook's taking allocation.

dublindispatch 21st Jun 2010 13:35

BCN
 
BCN probably tied in with a Tour Operator offering sking in Andorra and getting an allocayion of seats on EI rather than going to the expense of chartering an entire a/c

GAXLN 21st Jun 2010 13:39

Ireland-Canada and APD
 
Could it be that operating from Dublin is more attractive to Air Transat as they are not confronted with the high levels of Air Passenger Duty (APD) that apply in Northern Ireland? Yes, there is APD ex Dublin but I believe this is 10 euros c£8.40. From Northern Ireland APD is currently £45 to Canada and will be £60 from November assuming of course that tomorrow's budget does not increase it still further...... pefectly rational decision by Air Transat it appears to me. Meanwhile, Northern Ireland airports and passengers lose out.

david1994 21st Jun 2010 16:02

Jet2 flight into BFS buzzed by laser
 
A Jet 2 flight on approach to BFS was just blinded by a green laser (2355) 13 miles out from the approach track to runway 25.

I am guessing that would be somewhere around Carrick,Ballynure,Ballyclare area?

Pilot gave approx position to the tower and approach;information has been passed to the Police.

Hope they catch the morons and Tasar them in the goolies.

tigger2k8 22nd Jun 2010 12:05

im surprised too about BCN, but as dublindispatch has said, probably a tour company...

a large portion of the Britains Got Talent live tour group arrived in BFS last night from LGW, even though their venue is the Odyssey, and no doubt their hotel is in the City itself

the flights to turkey are really kicking off this year again, 2 turkuaz airlines aircraft and Onur Air, as well as i think a First Choice (although the original aircraft went tech) and a tcx flight, again one of their aircraft went tech both with replacements coming in

aircraft no longer have to take a tour of their airport now, as all the construction work on the drains is finished until the end of the summer rush

ards_boy, theres also certain third world airports, infact some not even third world that make BFS look like LHR.. as for crew problems, nothing to do with BFS itself, thats EZYs fault....

The EZY schedule for Winter looks the same as 2009... 5 base aircraft

EI Schedule - Winter 2010

So heres the schedule for EI so far, some return bookings are not available yet:

Note that December has a slightly different schedule, looks like ALC and FCO are getting dropped, which allows the schedule to run on 2 Base aircraft

BFS-BCN
Dep: 0640
Arr: 1025

BCN-BFS
Dep: 1105
Arr: 1255

Tu,Th,Sa
----

BFS-ACE
Dep: 0640
Arr: 1110

ACE-BFS
Dep: 1155
Arr: 1610

M,W,F,SU
----

BFS-AGP
Dep: 1650
Arr: 2055

AGP-BFS
Dep: 2135
Arr: 2345

M,W,F,Su

----

BFS-TFS
Dep: 1340
Arr: 1815

TFS-BFS
Dep: 1900
Arr: 2330

Tu,Th,Sa

----

BFS-LHR
Dep: 0720
Arr: 0850

Dep: 1300
Arr: 1420

Dep: 1730
Arr: 1850

LHR-BFS

Dep: 0930
Arr: 1055

Dep: 1510
Arr: 1635

Dep: 1945
Arr: 2110

----seems like quite a smart line up to me, all the winter sun destinations and of course LHR, hopefully the above is right and i have not missed anything :}

Tower Ranger 22nd Jun 2010 23:41

I think they should also Tase spotters listening in on airband and believing that they understand what ATC are doing! Also a double Tase down yonder for the mindless posters of ailine timetables and delays..............

ards_boy 23rd Jun 2010 10:59

I was not refering to Ezy crews when I was saying BFS is an enbarrasment? I was refering generally to crew not based in BFS with any airline..... Why are you defending BFS like a schoolboy if you work here as you clearly do the layout, procedures and presentation of the airport are mad / not on par with typical UK airports. If you think improvements are not needed you are nuts or related to JD! Lol

tigger2k8 23rd Jun 2010 13:17

i actually work at both airports which ive stated before, although for the last 4 months i havn't seen BHD at all... i dont disagree that BFS needs work done to it but it most certainly isn't third world, i often see the areas that passengers dont see and well the technology is primitive and im amazed that its still running, the majority of it will be put to the test over the next 2 months :ouch:

the only reason i am partly defending it is because they are actually starting to spend a little bit of money doing things and it wont be an overnight transformation... it will be years before we see BFS brought into modern times, but the areas they have already renovated do look good, brighten the place up and more importantly bring it out of the 1960s:8

Abertis just does not want to spend money, if they could legally hold the airport together with duct tape they would to save money:E

BFS101 30th Jun 2010 12:54

New Drop off and Pick up arrangements from Wednesday 7th July 2010...

News - Belfast International Airport


The drop off /pick up zone can be used for up to ten minutes and a charge of £1.00 will be made for each vehicle entering the area. For those driving to the airport and needing to park for longer than 10 minutes, the short stay car park adjacent to the drop off zone is the best option. In order to facilitate the new system we have doubled the time duration at the lowest rate in the short stay car park to encourage the use of this car park for those who need to stay for longer.

These new arrangements bring us into line with most other airports in the UK and will be in place from 00:01am on Wednesday 7th July 2010. Vehicle drivers will be able to make payment by cash or by using a credit or debit card.

ESCNI 30th Jun 2010 13:18


...bring us into line with most other airports in the UK...
Now, is that really true?

It certainly doesn't even bring them into line with most other airports in Belfast.

:=

...and will they even be charging for leaving disabled or elderly passengers off?

EI-BUD 30th Jun 2010 19:09

I use BFS alot and in the last year I have noticed more than ever (even without this £1 charge) the main route to the airport and the road close to the car parks sees loads of cars waiting for planes to land before they go to the terminal, even parking on double yellow lines. This will only become more common!

EI-BUD

ILS25 30th Jun 2010 19:28

And the City airport are going to be taking the same £1 route when the dust settles at BFS.

Rinty 30th Jun 2010 21:04

Good one ILS25 - slag off BHD for something that they havn't even done - objectivity reaches new levels :ok:

At BHD the set down area is 10 mins free and cars still stop all over the place - no idea how BFS are going to stop this happening

ILS25 30th Jun 2010 21:17

Apologies, I didn't realize I was slagging anyone off. Just stating what I know. I don't agree with the charge as you can see in my previous posts and I was 100% right at what was going to happen at BFS and I am 100% right that it will happen at the city as well. Believe me, I know.

True Blue 30th Jun 2010 21:17

If the comment by ILS25 is a statement of fact, how is that slagging off? Can we establish if he is correct first, or can you not accept any negative comments re BHD?

True Blue

Rinty 30th Jun 2010 22:34

ILS - no idea where you are getting your information from but I know that there has definitely been no decision made on this. If you are stating that in your opinion based on past history of BHD management that you think this will happen then that is a different issue.


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