As an ex Zoomie my thoughts are with all at Globespan.
Lets hope something can come out of the ashes. Best of luck. Vince |
Does anyone know if the SSH-EDI got airborne tonight befor ethe news broke?
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Crap timing
To all ex Silverjet / Zoom / XL Pilots there, aaaaaaghh :\ |
From BAA arrivals:
21:50 GSM572 SHARM EL SHEIK EXPECTED 2150 Given that its on time, it may be possible that the 'Expected' was added as re-assurance? |
Very sorry to hear this.
Bad news for the industry and bad news for Scotland. I worked for the company in ABZ a couple of years ago where they generally provided a great service over the summer. My thoughts are with all affected employees at this time. |
Hmmm, maybe time for a career change...
Zoom XL GSM Gutted because the 767 ACMI operation was IMHO good, the ACMIs were breaking even & the crews did their utmost to make things work for the client...... Really pee'd off as got to start looking for a new job AGAIN. |
Are we really shocked by Ryanair??? I hope no one puts any money in there filthy pockets!! Have some thought for the passengers left high and dry by the collapse instead of venting your frustrations. |
Full details have now been posted on both the CAA & Globespan's Websites. Good luck to all
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from the flyglobespan web site;
Bruce Cartwright, Graham Frost and Ian Oakley-Smith at PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC) have been appointed as joint administrators to Scottish travel firm, The Globespan Group plc and Alba Ground Handling Ltd (‘the Group’) on 16 December 2009. It is likely that other Group companies including the airline which operated as Flyglobespan will be placed into administration on 17 December 2009. The companies entered into Administration having suffered liquidity issues. Unfortunately, the Joint Administrators have been unable to continue trading the companies and therefore all flights operated by The Globespan Group plc or Globespan Airlines Ltd have been cancelled and the aircraft grounded. |
When Paddy Power was offering odds of 6 to 4 that Globspan would be the next to go tits up I really should have punted a coupla Grand.
When the Wicked Witch of the North was so loudly proclaiming that the company's finances were sound I actually said: "Methinks the lady doth protest too much". When him indoors was bragging his fantasies about the "dreamliner" I just knew that he'd lost contact with reality and that it would end in tears for those who were so gullible that they got sucked in. I actually feel sorry for the suckers. |
Really sorry to hear this news. Flew to SFB twice, BCN and STN when they flew out of EDI. Very friendly efficient crew.
Good luck to the GSM staff that post on here, even they were helpful. Hope you all get something better soon. |
I know how you feel. I was employed by European Aviation Air Charter when we failed 1 Dec 2008.
You have my deepest sympathy. |
i really enjoyed my time with gsm, i'm grateful for the opportunities it gave me. shop floor staff are some of the best i've worked with and very professional throughout, i hope you dont have to wait long before you are all snapped up.
sorry for the customers too sad days for all involved and the worst time for these things to happen as always. |
Faceless & spineless
No wages for us this month( or any other). It's terrible that we have to find out that we have lost our jobs through the internet and not face to face from management, not that any of us at Alba have ever met Tom Dalrymple.
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Geez !!
So sorry for all involved, there is always talk of the poor pax when this happens but never any mention of the guys and girls permanantly affected. How many people are involved? |
Cluster Bomb
not that any of us at Alba have ever met Tom Dalrymple. |
Closes i ever came to meeting TD was when i checked in one of his oldist friends during the summer with his 47kg of excess and set of golf what i was not aloud to charge him for.
alba are allways the last to know anything and we never find out threw globespan |
Sympathy to all. Having been there last year I know what a blow it is, especially at this time of year. Best of luck to all.
Red Wings, you are a complete and utter idiot: the fare is a guaranteed one way fare on presentation of a Globespan booking reference at check in, regardless of how high the web fare goes. Have some thought for the passengers left high and dry by the collapse instead of venting your frustrations. |
In the case of an airline going bust, isnt it the case that insurance cover stops at the same time? Therefor, SSH-EDI tonight is enroute requiring an immediate divert to the nearest airfield relative to the aircrafts position...
Have friends involved, who found out via BBC Scotland - NO official notification from the company... Very best of luck to all the staff at both Globespan and Alba. You did your best. Hold your heads high. As for the illustrious leaders (Uncle Tom and little sister), youre just too late for this years panto season... Maybe next year! What a week for Mr OLeary! First the BA strike and then GSM... Christmas come early? |
Guys
To all GSM crew and staff, my thoughts really are with you. As an ex-Zoomie who was there at the very end I know what a sh**ty time it is. But in the words of one of my favourite cabin managers "Be brave sweetheart, be brave". Time is great healer. Perhaps some of our industry colleagues should realise that they should be grateful they have a job to go to...... Good luck all. x |
silverstreak
The PWC web site says the airline is likely to go into administration tomorrow 17/12/2009. So I would assume the AC are still insured. Here is a snip from the pwc press release: "Bruce Cartwright, Graham Frost and Ian Oakley-Smith at PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC) have been appointed as joint administrators to Scottish travel firm, The Globespan Group plc and Alba Ground Handling Ltd (‘the Group’) at the request of the Globespan directors on 16 December 2009. It is likely that other Group companies, including the airline which operated as Flyglobespan, will be placed into administration on 17 December 2009." But they go on to say flight ops will cease this evening. |
Average Bloke
I would place you in the the "Holy Wullie" category but I doubt that you would understand the reference. May I refer you to my post yesterday in the Airlines, Airports and Routes. Would 737 Captain David....worked for Inter Ekspress in Antalya before GSM, please PM me ref another job. |
Bruce Cartwright, Graham Frost and Ian Oakley-Smith at PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC) have been appointed as joint administrators to Scottish travel firm, The Globespan Group plc and Alba Ground Handling Ltd (‘the Group’) on 16 December 2009. It is likely that other Group companies including the airline which operated as Flyglobespan will be placed into administration on 17 December 2009. The companies entered into Administration having suffered liquidity issues. Unfortunately, the Joint Administrators have been unable to continue trading the companies and therefore all flights operated by The Globespan Group plc or Globespan Airlines Ltd have been cancelled and the aircraft grounded. Having read through it a couple of times, I get the impression that FlyGlobespan would appear to be the part that is NOT causing the problem. Reading the first part again, it seems to me from the wording to be the parent company & Alba that are the problems here. Still at the end of the day, despite what appears to be good set of load factors in the latest route figures, a lot of good folks are likely to find themselves having to look for a new employer & a lot of fairly convenient routes are going to disappear. Let's all hope for a quick and positive resolution. |
Current situation
Gents,
It gives me no pleasure whatsoever, but here is a direct quote from today's issue of Air Intel Daily News, dated 16th December - a source that I've found pretty reliable up to now. QUOTE: FlyGlobespan (UK) collapses after funding package arrives too late. All scheduled services halted as carrier goes into administration. UNQUOTE: Best wishes to all involved - certainly NOT the best Xmas present. Krgds AES |
Donkey497
Maybe not. They are just dumping everything that isn't required to keep an aeroplane in the sky. As soon as the assets are on home turf, that's it. If there are any departures still due, getting a fuel load will be interesting. Bet they haven't though of that. My advice to captains is, keep your credit cards well and truly locked away. If the company/administrators tell you that you get re-reimbursed on landing in the uk, it's a lie, tell them you don't have a credit card since the credit crunch. |
I would place you in the the "Holy Wullie" category but I doubt that you would understand the reference. |
You could, however, have the good grace to retract your patently ill-informed remark.
As an aside, to the Captains with 737 TRs, FR are still accepting applications for DEC positions: please see the website for details. Regrettably, there no FO positions although SFOs coming up to command may wish to check with recruitment: if you can't get through please PM me and I will check and post the response here. |
Sorry to hear this bad news, I've worked with you folk around the patch for a few years. Hope the new year brings you better news.
eng. |
Fair enough - retracted. I was not aware of your post on another forum.
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I would like to spare a thought for the passengers as well who have booked directly with the airline perhaps without credit card and are likely not to see their money. Also (like the threatened BA strike), had holidays ruined and most probably their Christmas also.
Sympathies to the staff and to their booked pax. I also have had some good trips with GSM from and to AGP. Nivsy |
Average, thank you.
Now let's apply ourselves to trying our best to find jobs for the GSM staff. It couldn't have happened at a worse time of year: since the people haven't been paid how about we all contribute to a Xmas Help the GSM Colleagues Fund? |
From BBC News Website:-
Managing director, Gordon Dewar said: "This is a sad day for the Scottish aviation industry. "However, our immediate attention must turn to the thousands of passengers who were due to fly with the airline over the coming months. "We are already holding urgent discussions with a number of other airlines and are hopeful of replacing much of the capacity that has been lost from Flyglobespan going into administration." |
With regard to GSM going under, and the BA cabin crew striking...
The BA cabin crews dont know what its like to do a shift - NO REALLY... Try an EDI-SSH-EDI in one day. No, didnt think you would, could or even contemplate! Too much like hard work. The molly-coddling that goes on in BA is absurd. The pampering of egos, the overheads and the idea that BA is the worlds favorite airline... PLEASE.... Why not offer some of the BA shorthaul network to GSM next week? Would certainly help everyone... |
My Thoughts..
I worked for GSM back in 2006/2007, based out of GLA flying the -300 only. These six months were a great experience. I had the opportunity to meet some very fine aviators, and the flights down to BCN or the Canaries were always fun. Good crews, fun routes and living right at the waterfront in GLA in a brand new appartment was just great. My thoughts are with you, guys and gals. Please don't hesitate to PM me if you need help with whatsoever.
LE |
It's Xmas time...will you help our colleagues at Globespan
Folks
The staff at Globespan have been left high and dry 1 week before Xmas. They won't be paid this month. Would you help? I have been in the same situation and neither the JobCentre nor the Union are capable of helping: I'm not suggesting that we can collectively pay everyones salary, but we could, with the tiniest bit of seasonal spirit and at minimal cost to ourselves make a contribution. If 1000 people would donate £100 we could give all of the aircrew and cabin crew a substantial boost. If more people donate we could extend the assistance to office and ground staff. What do you think. I'm in. |
to all my old xl peps
omg not again god bless you all you know who you are
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While I appreciate the sentiment (and I've been made redundant myself) it's a fairly silly (read - unworkable) suggestion.
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To all Globespan people - sorry to hear the news.
Jet2 might be worth a look. Right type ratings and were recruiting recently. Plus, up north. |
As an ex-Air Europe employee, knowing what you are going through, might you consider a donation to Unite or BASSA?
No, I didn't think so. |
No of pilots affected
Sorry to ask at such a time but could anyone shed any numbers on the number of pilots affected. (Purely a selfish interest as another out of work pilot sorry)
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