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eu01 10th Jan 2010 07:20


Hmm, wouldn't Rotterdam be as convenient?
It would be even better, but not necessarily the economic conditions there (fees etc.)

jaypla 10th Jan 2010 08:35

Is there a page, where u can find information about, when and where the FR press conferences take place? Thanks

Charlie Roy 10th Jan 2010 10:57


Hmm, wouldn't Rotterdam be as convenient? I seem to recall that Basiqair couldn't make that one work...
Basiqair became Transavia and they're still at Rotterdam. Yes Rotterdam is convenient for Amsterdam but probably has charges that are multiple times those of this new Lelystad airport...

racedo 10th Jan 2010 11:09

Lelystad - Amstedam is 40 minutes by train V 20 minutes from Schipol but service is being upgarded to fast Amsterdam - Gronigen line so that will probably be reduced and reckon with smaller terminal and quick transfer then easily with a year or two it will be 1 hour from landing to centre of Amsterdam which will compare with Schipol.

AMS flyer 10th Jan 2010 20:59

Forget Amsterdam/Lelystad for the time being. It's still not sure if the airport will remain at its current location.... And in The Netherlands it can take more than 20 years to have the green light for a runway extension (example: GRQ) which is necessary for Lelystad to be able to accomodate Ryanair and other B737/A320's.

AMS and RTM are too expensive for Ryanair and GRQ is also waiting for a runway extension. So, for the next couple of years Ryanair will only operate to EIN and MST.

jaypla 11th Jan 2010 04:48

Does anybody know anything about the press conference on wednesday in Berlin?

pee 12th Jan 2010 05:53

This comment was published in The Independent today:

Thanks in no small part to Michael O'Leary's largesse, the prize money for Cheltenham's Ryanair Chase is being boosted from £220,000 to £250,000 this year at a time when it is being cut for most other races. So now you know where all those "puerile" (copyright OFT) extra fees which you have to use a Visa Electron on the third Thursday of a 30-day month to avoid are going.

LPFR 12th Jan 2010 09:39

Quick question for anyone that knows STN..

So I'm doing something I shouldn't and that FR strongly discourage, but I booked a "connecting" flight through STN to get to GRX visit some friends.

My first flight arrives at STN at 13:05, and the flight to GRX departs at 15:50. Assuming that the first flight lands on time, I guess there will be no problem to get to the second one, but in case it runs late, how late can it be for me to still be able to catch the second flight? Keeping in mind I have to get off the plane, go to departures, security, etc..

840 12th Jan 2010 09:54

Two problems at Rotterdam
- It is owned by Schiphol Group, so isn't allowed to pursue a strategy that could undermine growth up the road.
- It has very severe limitations on the number of flights. These were lifted by Rotterdam City Council a number of years ago, but the neighbouring municipalities of Schiedam and Berkel en Rodenrijs, which live under the flight path appealed the decision at national level and won. So, growth has to come from larger aircraft rather than extra flights.

Lelystad is also owned by Schiphol Group, so it would be interesting to see how easily an agreement could be made.

pee 12th Jan 2010 10:36

  • AMS is owned by Schiphol group
  • Rotterdam is owned by Schiphol group
  • Lelystad is owned by Schiphol group
Let's live monopoly then...

Not only in the Netherlands by the way.

underfish 12th Jan 2010 11:33

Finavia, by the way :)

Ryanair Tickets from LPP to NRN are selling very well (All 12.99 promo fares for starting April and May are sold out and current price for some days is already 50-60 euros one way). They even desided to start flights one month earlier - from 4th of March.

BALLSOUT 12th Jan 2010 12:32

LPFR. It shouldn't be a problem. The time taken will depend if you have checked in bags or not. Obviously the best and quickest way is on line check in and hand baggage only. I think you will find that there are many people doing the same thing as yourself, FR don't offer the conections because they don't want to be responsible on the odd ocasion it goes wrong.

LPFR 12th Jan 2010 13:58

Thank you. Yes, I know they don't offer conections and tell pax not to do them, but it's the only way to get to GRX...Still, any idea, how much time it takes from arriving to go to departures again? I'm giving enough time, but if the flight runs late I think I'll freak out. And yes, only hand-bagagge of course.

johnref 12th Jan 2010 14:16

I've done arrival gate out and back into departures lounge in less than 15 mins (you need to factor extra time to gate but I think you avoid the train with Ryanair).

If coming in domestically this is very possible - if coming in International need to factor time for passport control which could be the lottery.

davidjohnson6 12th Jan 2010 14:20

On the flight into STN, take an aisle seat at the front of the plane. Depending on the arrival gate, it may well be a 10+ min walk just to the immigration hall.
Once you exit arrivals at Stansted, turn right. About midway down the length of the terminal, the entrances to security screening start.

From arrival aircaft steps to departure gate, you're probably looking around 30 mins if you can run a bit and queues aren't too long. Worth looking at the airport map on the STN website in advance - signs are fairly good but helps to know a route in advance

LPFR 12th Jan 2010 15:26

Will take a look at the map. Thank you all for the info. :ok:
Should work out well then, even if there's 1.30h delay or so on the first flight.

al446 12th Jan 2010 18:44

Re Lelystad
 
From what I see they want this up and running by end 2010, that may be optimistic. It seems to me that this is the start of 'Schiphol 2'. The a/p has needed to expand for some time, a few years ago I read an article about a proposition to create an island in the N Sea connected by a causeway to allow the a/p to gradually move from its present position (they did it with HK) but objections from neighbouring countries & shipping interests scuppered that. This is ideal. Start by moving locos out there so free up slots for big boys. They also have almost unlimited space for expansion.

Dutch thoughts anyone?

Tot ziens.

boyzinblue 13th Jan 2010 10:27

Press conference in Berlin:

3.4 million passengers in 6 years. No new routes/base announced.

pee 13th Jan 2010 13:11

Fiasco on the Rygge - Nyköping route.

Ryanair's attempt to fly twice-daily between RYG and NYO has failed. Despite 9 krone (€1) fares the LFs are very poor indeed. From 1st February the frequencies will be reduced to once-daily (no more morning flights).

barrymah 13th Jan 2010 13:43

I've been being a naughty boy in FR/Stanstead for years, and, so far, never been caught out. Allowing 2hrs+ between connections is about right. One of the things FR is good at is timekeeping, goes with the heavy usage of aircraft, crews, 25min turnarounds, etc. You should be fine, main risk at this time of year is weather....

Bon voyage

eu01 14th Jan 2010 19:15

In Italy, there are strong rumours that Ryanair is about to start flying to "true" Verona (Valerio Catullo airport) this year. That will not weaken the position of BGY, thay say, in fact Orio al Serio will soon get its tenth ac and add flights.

DILLTHEDOG 16th Jan 2010 15:03

The Drop down box on the RYR Web page from Bournemouth is showing 18 destinations, is that it for next summer ? 17 if you take EDI off which is being canx, will they still do the Canaries in the Summer ?

Is that enoough to keep 2 aircraft busy ?

Or will they have a big fanfair announcement when the second aircraft arrives in march and put on some more routes ?

eu01 16th Jan 2010 16:32

In Spain, just 12 days are left for Ryanair to confirm the slots it has requested at El Prat (BCN). Among the destinations in question one can find MAD, BVA, LPA, IBZ. The deadline on 28th of January.

Badgermanuk 16th Jan 2010 17:47

The Canaries Routes from BOH have already been extended for the Summer 2010 Season, this was announced the same time as New routes for Summer 2010 to Fuerteventura, Ibiza, Malta and Valencia were announced, With Palma, Alicante and Malaga also benefiting from increased frequency... so hopefully that'll keep the 2 Craft Busy


Hope that helps

LPFR 17th Jan 2010 06:45

I wonder why EI-EG... registration series were limited to GA, GB and GC, while FR normally goes through the whole alphabet. EI-EKA and EI-EKB were delivered on the 15th.

ryan2000 17th Jan 2010 14:36

ORK changes
 
FR have taken FR9848/9 out of DUB Cork schedule as well as the FR907/8 STN ORK for summer 2010. This would mean that the Cork based 738 will be finished work at 1910 each evening. Not like Ryanair. Is a 2nd ORK LGW on the cards?

The afternoon DUB ORK FR9857/8 has also gone missing from the Summer schedule.

Aer Arann must be watchiing with interest. Is the 4 year David v Goliath battle on ORK DUB about to enter a new phase?

Suzeman 17th Jan 2010 22:35

To pee or not to pee - that is the question?
 
From UK Airport News

"Spending a penny" could soon become spending a £ or Euro...Well that's inflation for you! No doubt the crew will have to pay as well......

Next refinement will no doubt be a charge per litre or kilo dependant on whether it is "number ones" or "twos" :} And here's an opportunity for airport shops to stock incontinence pads for those blokes who can't tie a knot in it or ladies who can't keep their legs crossed :eek:

Suzeman


17.01.10
Ryanair will press ahead with plans to charge passengers to use its aircraft’s toilets, the Irish Times reports. Despite admitting an announcement last year that it would install coin-operated facilities was a publicity stunt, chief executive Michael O’Leary is now revisiting the issue, according to the airline.

The budget airline would remove the two toilets at the back of each aircraft, leaving only one on board and creating room for six extra seats. The fee would mean there there is less demand for the limited facilities on board, but things could get difficult if the only toilet broke, which could mean that aviation authorities would not accept the plan.

In its in-flight magazine Ryanair described the coin-operated toilets as a 'cost saving proposal' that would help reduce fares by at least 5 percent. Spokesman Stephen McNamara told the newspaper that the €1/£1 charge would apply only to flights of an hour or less, which would include almost all Ryanair routes between Ireland and Britain.

davidjohnson6 17th Jan 2010 22:54

Is this just the FR media machine going into overdrive again, or have FR really found a way with regulatory approval to squeeze in 195 seats instead of the standard 189 ?

pee 18th Jan 2010 06:58

Oh what a trendy nick I have! Thinking about starting the campaign “let us pee for free” :}

the FR media machine going into overdrive again
I've just noticed FR had to adjust the frequencies on many routes even during Summer... as the result of this publicity? The reductions seem directly proportional to its abominable nature. An efficient enterprise with a disastrous propaganda, that's what it is.

wawkrk 18th Jan 2010 07:07

Maybe the plan is to further reduce turnaround times.
Boarding is a mad dash for seats which reduces the time.
So how do you persuade the pax to scram as quickly as possible when you land?
You make sure all the pax are bursting to go to the toilet when you land.

vkid 18th Jan 2010 08:30

thought this was a great idea to beat Ryanair and other airlines baggage charges..dunno if it was posted before.

Flylight

Gulf Julliet Papa 18th Jan 2010 08:43

Everyone seems to of forgotten that the -800 is limited to 189 seats due to the number of emergency exits. The same with the -900, this was solved on the -900ER by putting another exit on the left hand side of the aircraft. So unless MOL is going to start cutting holes in 200+ aircraft, and plugging them with emergency exits (very very costly). I seem to remember something to do with emergency escape times?

Charlie Roy 18th Jan 2010 09:10


Spokesman Stephen McNamara told the newspaper that the €1/£1 charge would apply only to flights of an hour or less, which would include almost all Ryanair routes between Ireland and Britain.
I doubt the legality / regulatory-compliance of this in general, but if a person were to buy food or beverages during the flight, they must have free use of the toilets (EU law).
A premises selling food and a drink, having a minimum number of seats, (189 is certainly above this minimum), must provide free toilets for customer use.
I know many business do not respect this law all across the EU, but I'm sure authorities would enforce it for a large pan-European airline!

racedo 18th Jan 2010 09:42


thought this was a great idea to beat Ryanair and other airlines baggage charges..dunno if it was posted before.

Flylight
Dunno Maybe its me but why pay €85 for 2 bags when you have existing bags and can buy a hand held scales for under a tenner :rolleyes:

Who is robbing whom on that basis.

Herc708 18th Jan 2010 11:45

Fishing Licences - Sounds like ENAC got their way
 
Cancelling Italian Domestic flights on 24 Dec Ryanir said this ...:

".............ENAC’s Ordinanzas threaten to imprison Ryanair’s handling agents, if they refuse travel to passengers flying with unapproved forms of ID including AT/BT Cards, Employment ID’s or Italian Fishing Licences.........."

Now on the Ryanir website it says that the AT/BT card is OK!

"................

A valid AT/BT card (Italian domestic flights only)

................."

pee 18th Jan 2010 14:02

Some new connections out of Sweden should be announced tomorrow. E.g. the NYO - Bari route is on the agenda.

pee 19th Jan 2010 06:20

...and it looks as if there will be a batch of announcements not only in Sweden. For instance, Lille is rumoured to get the route to Barcelona today (GRO presumably).

anna_list 19th Jan 2010 09:45

New Swedish destination - Norrköping NRK
 
Flights to Alicante from NRK: Ryanair börjar flyga från Norrköping | Resa | Aftonbladet
Marknadschefen på flygplatsen nöjd - Norrköping Nyheter - Lokala nyheter - Norrköpings Tidningar

Norrköping NRK and Nyköping NYO (Skavsta) ... that could easily confuse a stupid person like me!

Lille to GRO from May: Une nouvelle liaison Ryanair : Lille - Barcelone, à partir de mai 2010 - Brèves Région - - La Voix du Nord

tangarizie 19th Jan 2010 09:48

Iceland
 
Hi guys,

What do you think about Ryanair flying to Iceland, at least from the UK?
Possible, or not possible?

tommyc2005 19th Jan 2010 10:22

Highly unlikely, can't see KEF giving them the kind of discounts that would entice FR up there.

Egilstaddir or Akureyi would be extremely remote possibilities if the local tourist boards stumped up enough cash to pay for promotion etc, but can't really see it happening.


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