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LBAlady 3rd Dec 2008 09:23

Flightline into administration
 
Another sad day for another airline as from 0700h.

STN Ramp Rat 3rd Dec 2008 09:26

Flightline UK LTD gone under
 
Another sad day and another bunch of good people on the street

A2QFI 3rd Dec 2008 09:33

Which Flightline?
 
Flightline.co.uk is still acepting bookings at 1033 today. Which one has gone under?

Another procedure 3rd Dec 2008 09:34

flightline
 
Very sad day, hope all the employees find a job soon. Seems loosing the Aberdeen contract was one of the final nails.

All the best.

Re-Heat 3rd Dec 2008 09:34

This? Aircraft Branded Wet Lease : BAE 146 Leasing

JJ83 3rd Dec 2008 09:38

Flightline has been placed in Administration.:mad:

TwoOneFour 3rd Dec 2008 09:41

Air Transport Intelligence reporting Flightline at EGMC in admin and ceased operations.

CPL_Ace 3rd Dec 2008 09:43

Flightline.co.uk is a completely different company. I believe they are a travel agent.
Flightline UK Ltd (a wet lease company based in Southend) is the unfortunate company.

atcomarkingtime 3rd Dec 2008 09:55

Reports are indicating that Eastern, who won the oil contract to transport personnel from EGPD to EGPM have started the contract 2 months earlier. They were due to take over in Feb 2009 with SAAB's. The EGPD BAA website does however show the flights operating via EGPB today.....

beerfest666 3rd Dec 2008 10:12

very sad day.
do you have a source??

C195 3rd Dec 2008 10:39

Does anyone here know how many flight crews and ground staff the company employed? How big was the operation? Sad news.

dreamliner787 3rd Dec 2008 10:48

So sad, another GREAT Airline, with a lovely bunch of people.

Again a pleasure working with you guys through the years :ok:
Your a fab bunch!

Good luck to you all.

Dream x

HS-125 3rd Dec 2008 10:51

Well, I was not expecting this one! I would of thougt Flightline would of been one of the airlines that would of sailed through the economic downturn! :sad:

TRIM-RUN 3rd Dec 2008 10:51

UK wet-lease operator Flightline goes into administration

UK specialist charter and wet-lease operator Flightline has stopped operating services and filed for administration.

The company's fleet primarily comprises nine British Aerospace 146 and Avro RJ regional jets but it is also listed as having a pair of Boeing MD-83s.

Based at London Southend Airport, Flightline has previously performed subcontract work for carriers such as Lufthansa, Qantas, British Airways and Air France.

A spokeswoman for the company confirms that operations have stopped and that it has "gone into administration", identifying KPMG as the administrator.

The company's fleet, according to Flight's ACAS database, is leased from a variety of sources including Finova Capital, Nex Aviation and International Lease Finance (ILFC).

Flightline was established in April 1989 and employs around 240 personnel. The company's operations include an aircraft engineering arm at London Southend.

It also set up a division, British Airline Management, in 2001 to conduct wet-leasing outside of the European Joint Aviation Authorities area.

simfly 3rd Dec 2008 10:53

I can confirm Eastern Airways are planned to do some flights to Shetland for Flightline's customer in Aberdeen today. 2 146's parked up over on the eastern side. Dejavu for the staff employed at Aberdeen as many of them went through the same in 2001 as British World employees. Must be around 20 pilots, 20 cabin crew plus engineers and ground staff there.

daz211 3rd Dec 2008 11:12

Well let us all be on our guard, expect the unexpected :ouch:.
They wont be the last, most of the xmas booking are in and money
cashed, there is along way to go until summer 2009 and I think
FEB/MAR/ARP will be very tough, people just dont like advanced bookings
anymore, not after XL anyway :uhoh:.

TwoOneFour 3rd Dec 2008 11:13

That's the Air Transport Intelligence story which Trim-Run's posted.

fagend 3rd Dec 2008 13:22

The 20 pilots etc... is only the ABZ base. Company as a whole employs around 500 staff (ground and air). Sad day, myself and and relatives and friends all included in the mess!! thoughts to all

curry1983 3rd Dec 2008 13:35

Hi,

I am also an employee of Flightline (or was :(...) Now, having missed the conference call this morning... (Due to not seeing the email in time...) I was just wondering if anything was mentioned in reference to how we go about retrieving monies owed - Outstanding wages etc? Any information on this subject would be very helpful and greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Tuptaylor 3rd Dec 2008 13:50

Flightline in Administration
 
Hi, we caught some of the conference call. Apparently each employee will receive a letter from the Administrators - KPMG - which sets out the general situation and how things will proceed from here. YOu can then put in your own personal claim. As the company ceased operations today, we can expect only 2 days pay during December. I think this is an accurate summary of what we heard.

cldrvr 3rd Dec 2008 13:50

Curry,

According to ATI an administrator has been appointed, this means that the administrator is now in charge of the company and its assets including bank accounts and any cash holdings. The administrator will among other duties try to reach an agreement with the current secured debt holders and see if the company can be sold, broken up or restarted. All unsecured debt holders, such as among others employees that are owed salaries and or expenses will come last in line.

The administrator, KPMG is the one to contact if you are a debt holder, whether secured or un secured.

Spitfire boy 3rd Dec 2008 14:03

Ford flights
 
Any news yet on whether the Ford flights will continue operated by someone else? I note elsewhere a posting that the Ford US fleet grounded on cost grounds.

BALLSOUT 3rd Dec 2008 14:13

The employees claims for wages and holiday pay are treated as preferential claims. they will be paid before unsecured creditors.
The bad news is that it may take some time to sort this out. I have only just had my claim sorted out from the company i was with, that went bust in September 2001.
In the mean time, if there is no cash just now, there is a government fund that the administrators will give out the claim forms for. this will take a few months to pay out and it is capped at something like £230 per week claimed.
As I emember, they will pay this for any notice in leu etc, so you shold be able to claim 3 months notice at £230/week + outstanding pay and holiday pay. All at £230 per week, or what ever it is now.
The rest will probably take years.
Good luck guys, keep your chin up, You will get through this.

jez d 3rd Dec 2008 14:28

Press release from the administrators:

Jane Moriarty and Myles Halley from KPMG LLP were today appointed administrators to Flightline Limited. The company, which is based at Southend Airport, operates in the whole aircraft charter and ACMI (aircraft, crew, maintenance and insurance) market.

Following the appointment of the administrators, the company’s Air Operating Certificate was suspended by the Civil Aviation Authority, and the company has ceased trading. 235 staff have today made redundant, however, a small number of employees remain to work alongside the administrators.

Jane Moriarty commented: “We are now undergoing an orderly wind down of business, with the aim of realising the value of any of the remaining assets for the benefit of creditors.”

Daft Wader 3rd Dec 2008 14:36

I think from memory that Govt payments are capped at £330 per week.
Think you might get more if you are over 44
Good luck to all the ex Flightline Bods
May the farce be with you
Daft Wader
:ok:

DeltaIndiaSierraPapa 3rd Dec 2008 15:15

Reading that press release, all I could thinks was Merry Fu$%&ng Christmas!

Dash-7 lover 3rd Dec 2008 15:55

Bloody shame - they were much cheaper than Titan and less arsey!!

heidelberg 3rd Dec 2008 16:38

Is this the same Flightline that operate BA services LCY/DUB/LCY?

If not who is the Flightline that operate the BA sesrvice ex LCY?

BYALPHAINDIA 3rd Dec 2008 16:50

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I can confirm Eastern Airways are planned to do some flights to Shetland for Flightline's customer in Aberdeen today. 2 146's parked up over on the eastern side. Dejavu for the staff employed at Aberdeen as many of them went through the same in 2001 as British World employees. Must be around 20 pilots, 20 cabin crew plus engineers and ground staff there.

Reply
..........And how long will it be before T3 GOES UNDER AS WELL = 2 weeks?.

I see the GOOD old CAA are not making any comment, Or offering any help to the FEW remaining Airlines!!

Me thinks nothing left in 6 months...?

Jean-Lill 3rd Dec 2008 17:02

Is this the same FLightline that operate on behalf of BA on the LCY-NCE route?

I looked at the BA website and they are still advertising the service as operated by Flightline throughout December.

BYALPHAINDIA 3rd Dec 2008 17:03

Yes, Well it was until today!

Skipness One Echo 3rd Dec 2008 17:15


Me thinks nothing left in 6 months...?
If you hit the wee picture at the end that looks like a speech bubble you get funky blue quotes. Saves you writing er....."quote"

Private Fraser lives...."We're DOOOOOOOMEDDD Captain Mainwairing!"

One hopes that BA CityFlyer may take on some of the crew and airframes? Flightline were a large part of the LCY operation. Good luck chaps! ( and chap-esses )

BYALPHAINDIA 3rd Dec 2008 17:52

I hope so, But BA are in a 'Mess' of their own without having any 'Surplus' CASH to save FLT?

dc9-32 3rd Dec 2008 18:09

I wonder whether Mr Trotter will start something in the new year. Nice little company Fliteline, good bunch of people. What went wrong ??

stormin norman 3rd Dec 2008 19:11

Sad day for all but even the big players are having problems.A worrying time for the whole industry.


In an internal memo, distributed to BMI's staff on 26 November, Turner said: "Our financial results this year will produce the largest loss we have ever recorded by a considerable margin."
Turner also cautions that BMI will be "in intensive care" for considerable time, hindered by weakening demand and increasing non-controllable costs such as airport charges.

captain_ramsey 3rd Dec 2008 19:38

Thank you
 
I am (was) a First Officer with Flightline and I am truly gutted at today’s news for everyone. For all former employees out there, thank you, it’s been a great pleasure working with you all. I would like to extend my thank you, particularly to the Captains who, naturally, I worked much closer with and who passed on a wealth of knowledge to me. I have had a fantastic two years and the flying culture in Flightline allowed me to learn a great deal. I was given a huge level of responsibility for my experience and am really grateful for the fun I had while it lasted.

It’s sad, but let’s face it, if we stay in the industry, we’ll see each other soon….

Good luck everyone and thanks again.

Rob Powell
[email protected]

Inverted81 3rd Dec 2008 20:19

Very sad news. Definitely didn't see that one coming! All the best everyone, hopefully speak to you over the airwaves again soon.

Inverted (Sumburgh radar 131.3)

ciderman 3rd Dec 2008 21:05

I left Flightline in August after working freelance for them for 10 months. Wonderful people who tried to treat you as a human being. Shame if that attitude cost them their business. Condolences to all.

monkey_wrench 3rd Dec 2008 21:05

The Ford RJ-100 (being leased from BAe directly by Ford) will go back into service once a new operator is found to provide cockpit and cabin crew...

UFGBOY 3rd Dec 2008 21:29

Redundancy....
 
as an x XL body I sympathise; (high) age and length of service are a bonus as you recieve more from HM Govt.. takes up to a month to come through but it all comes inc. holdiay pay and back salary...

Chin(s) up all....


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