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Jamesair 2nd Jan 2017 21:20

They must have removed NCL when they saw your post :-( it only shows STN BHX and MAN now but it might have been premature but not impossible that it could be re-instated.

HH6702 2nd Jan 2017 22:24

Be nice to see them at ncl

Ph1l1pncl 3rd Jan 2017 23:30

Is Newcastle one of the airports that is being affected by SAS decision to cut access to third party lounges for its premium customers? As in one blog I've seen Newcastle mentioned for fast track to be suspended from February but then the next list which is for airports which are continuing access it mentions Newcastle so I'm slightly confused. I've seen its been stopped at Aberdeen so I presume they will stop access to Newcastle too.

HH6702 5th Jan 2017 13:48

Jet2

NYC winter 2017/18 flights now on sale

EK77WNCL 5th Jan 2017 16:13

6 flights again, looks like the NYE trips were a flop... Unless they might add them in later, I doubt it though. Glad to see the October half term ones are sticking around, makes me wonder why the Easter flights didn't work

Edit: 7 flights from LBA and 9 from MAN, both have NYE flights and MAN even have one over Christmas, 22-26/12. EMA down to 2, 3 from GLA. I don't think it's a surprise there's still no flights from EDI, I'm also not surprised to see that there will be 1 flight from BFS this year (I thought there might be more). 2 flights from BHX I also expected to see, but I am surprised that there won't be at least a couple from Stansted

VickersVicount 5th Jan 2017 21:38

Why is there no surprise that there are none from EDI? I dont think there has ever been.

EK77WNCL 6th Jan 2017 00:11

Because Edinburgh is well/over served transatlantic, as is Glasgow, so it makes sense the low number of flights from Glasgow and none from Edinburgh. If people want to go to New York they'll go United, or Delta or American... Or Norwegian... Even without NAX, It's pretty much a saturated market, but why should that stop EDI throwing airlines and seats at their routes?

For Jet2 though, it strikes me that it probably wouldn't be worth it the way they operate it, with the long EWR layover etc.

TSR2 6th Jan 2017 10:49


both have NYE flights and MAN even have one over Christmas
Where is NYE ?

CabinCrewe 6th Jan 2017 11:11

.... Im sure you know exactly where is being referred to given the context of previous posts :rolleyes:

chaps1954 6th Jan 2017 11:11

It is NYC New York

VentureGo 6th Jan 2017 12:44

Think he was using NYE to refer to New York Easter flights (as original context) reference to Christmas etc... was added later in discussion,

LAX_LHR 6th Jan 2017 14:20

Or does he mean New Years Eve flights?

EK77WNCL 6th Jan 2017 18:58

New Year's Eve...

A320.b744 6th Jan 2017 19:06

Is the airport actively looking for a replacement for the United service? Norwegian might be interested given they're planning start transatlantic flights to regional airports - EDI/BFS/GLA etc. Can't see American or Delta flying to Newcastle.

EK77WNCL 6th Jan 2017 20:26

In all honesty I hope Norwegian don't. I'd much rather see someone like Jetblue, with 'Mint' service, IFE in economy, connecting flights and codeshares... A hybrid airline, offering affordable transatlantic flights (not bottom of the barrel, market trashing £60 flights)

Fingers crossed they do get the A321LR and fingers even more crossed that they like the look of what Newcastle has to offer.

By virtue of being a low cost/hybrid airline, business traffic would be limited, so 3/4 weekly flights shouldn't be unattainable

SWBKCB 6th Jan 2017 20:43

I think recent events have shown that New York isn't the be all and end all - lets move on.

VentureGo 6th Jan 2017 21:08


I think recent events have shown that New York isn't the be all and end all - lets move on.
Actually, New York is worthy of discussion, so don't be so quick to dismiss and move on! - United charged Premium fares, well above AF/KLM and even BA/AA via their perspective hubs. An operator flying direct competitively with similar fares via hubs would be successful, although I agree current alliance partners are not going to "cannibilise" current trade for direct route, which does open door for LCC direct or other operators such as Icelandair with interesting stopovers! - I'm sure the airport management and route development teams will be looking at what solutuions are best for the Airport while opening up the market for the public.
Other opportunities may be Westjet into Canadian hubs to link into their US connections.

EK77WNCL 6th Jan 2017 21:32

I thought it was "if at first you don't succeed, try try try again" not "give up and forget you ever thought it might work"

United did well... If the industry nowadays (and especially with the legacies across the pond) wasn't so numbers driven, wanting profits yesterday and they'd given it 2017, maybe even 2018 with an extended schedule... I'm sure it would have grown, and maybe been a success like Emirates

A320.b744 6th Jan 2017 21:36

I can't see JetBlue operating transatlantic services, and even if they did, NCL would be at the bottom of their list. But honestly I'm surprised that NCL doesn't yet have an Iceland connection. WOW fly to 3 UK destinations, and Icelandair fly to 7 - Belfast City and Bristol have even managed to secure flights so NCL is lagging behind.

You make a very good point EK77WNCL; Emirates has been a huge success story for the airport - who would have thought that a regional airport could support daily 773 flights to Dubai. If United had let the EWR route mature instead of setting high profit targets then I think it would have been a success as well.

SWBKCB 7th Jan 2017 06:04


"if at first you don't succeed, try try try again"?
How about "Don't chuck good money after bad"?


United did well...
Says who?

Not United, and I think they're the ones who really know.

Not American, who planned flights and then pulled out.

Not the long list of airlines not rushing into the hole left by United

Also, can you really compare the business models of airlines from the USA and EK - they operate in different worlds.

NCL lagging behind? It isn't comparable to BRS, and BHD scrapes in (just) as a DHC8D destination (NCL doesn't), so don't compare apples and oranges again.

NYC demanded a disproportionate amount of effort - any coincidence that RYR turn up in numbers after NYC?


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