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GAXLN 26th Aug 2017 13:59


Originally Posted by ash666 (Post 9873572)
Silly question of the day.

It's so long since I last did a domestic flight I can't remember if NCL still has a separate domestic carousel/exit.

I suspect it disappeared years ago.
So presumably even domestic travellers have to come back through passport control/immigration at NCL?

The bigger question is if a non EU person flies into LHR (BA :( ) then straight up to NCL where will they clear immigration?
Presumably they will be in transit at LHR.

ASH666 There is a separate domestic arrivals channel at NCL as there has to be as Border Agency do not perform immigration controls on passengers flying domestic routes. In the case of a connection through LHR then immigration is undertaken at LHR. Formal Customs clearance is at Newcastle once bags have been collected as at LHR you remain airside unless you choose to do otherwise. I hope this addresses your question.

ash666 26th Aug 2017 14:11


Originally Posted by GAXLN (Post 9873585)
ASH666 There is a separate domestic arrivals channel at NCL as there has to be as Border Agency do not perform immigration controls on passengers flying domestic routes. In the case of a connection through LHR then immigration is undertaken at LHR. Formal Customs clearance is at Newcastle once bags have been collected as at LHR you remain airside unless you choose to do otherwise. I hope this addresses your question.

Great, thanks :D

AerRyan 26th Aug 2017 15:05

Plus Irish routes arrive there too!

ash666 26th Aug 2017 15:16


Originally Posted by AerRyan (Post 9873646)
Plus Irish routes arrive there too!

Quite!
I did Dublin a couple of years ago and can't remember getting out of NCL, and nothing to do with Guinness!

I do remember the awful Stobart return flight with overhead lockers that would struggle to hold a matchbox.

tigertanaka 26th Aug 2017 17:37


Originally Posted by AerRyan (Post 9873646)
Plus Irish routes arrive there too!

When did it change? The last time I arrived at NCL from DUB we walked into the terminal at the international side but bypassed the UK border control and went straight into the luggage collection area.

AerRyan 26th Aug 2017 17:50

Every time I've landed over the past few years I arrive in the domestic area, near the metro station.

All flights depart and arrive into the domestic gates, so maybe there was a shortage of them someday?

NorthEasterner 27th Aug 2017 18:58

Arrivals
 
All Irish routes including Northern and Republic of Ireland arrive via Domestic channels as would a normal UK domestic flight would do. This is due to the CTA agreement in place.

Jersey arrives via international arrivals but bypassing border control, as passengers must clear customs.

and of course all other international flights such as from continental EU, USA, Middle East arrive through standard international arrivals, going through immigration/border control and customs.

Regarding CPH - If another airline were to set up for the route, it would be hard for Ryanair or FlyBe to do so since both airports are not Ryanair or FlyBe bases, unless an FR aircraft goes on W pattern from either NCL or CPH. easyJet could easily go on as could BMI (if SVG is dropped or base another A/C).

Jamesair 28th Aug 2017 08:40

Traffic seems to be improving steadily on the BMI Stavanger route and it has always been assumed it might be extended to Bergen so not sure if they would close it and take on Copenhagen. However, they do seem a logical choice to operate the route.

LiamNCL 28th Aug 2017 18:18


Originally Posted by LiamNCL (Post 9869959)
Yes on a Tuesday

Typical Tuesday S18

NCL-HER-NCL-DLM-NCL
NCL-PMI-NCL-TFS-NCL
NCL-NBE-BHX-NBE-NCL

Reductions in REU PMI MAH ACE
Increases in DLM AYT CFU & ZTH
Added NBE
Dropped LEI PFO

& Due to BFS STN EMA proposed switch to 3rd party aircraft it could well be x3 A321

3rd ZTH now dropped for S18 so it remains x2 Weekly

Jamesair 31st Aug 2017 16:55

Isle of Man will no longer be served from 1st Sept, once the new Eastern NCL - Belfast City route begins.

jensdad 31st Aug 2017 17:35

I've just done a dummy booking for October and there's one flight number all the way through and a half hour stop in Belfast, so it looks like it's just a change of routing (intermediate stop at Belfast rather than on the island). Flights only operate 4 or 5 days a week though. I'd rather be able to get there direct but one way fares still start at £56 so not too much of a disaster.

nclops 31st Aug 2017 20:51


Originally Posted by Jamesair (Post 9878662)
Isle of Man will no longer be served from 1st Sept, once the new Eastern NCL - Belfast City route begins.

As jensdad points out above IOM will still be served, they have just changed the routing from NCL-IOM-BHD-IOM-NCL to NCL-BHD-IOM-BHD-NCL

Beatts 31st Aug 2017 21:18

Interesting to see we now have an Etihad SAAB-2000 based plane until October operating for eastern.

Beatts 1st Sep 2017 20:54

Not sure if it was already mentioned but Jet2 doing Sofia run from 18th December till 1st April - every Saturday.

NorthEasterner 1st Sep 2017 23:44

Saab 2000 is is a mixture of Flybe and Etihad crew. No Eastern crew unless that changes.
Etihad here to stay until end of October.

Eastern is now linked with Flybe, so under the franchise scheme. Flight numbers will now be BE I believe but no rebranding.

NorthEasterner 1st Sep 2017 23:45


Originally Posted by Beatts (Post 9879774)
Not sure if it was already mentioned but Jet2 doing Sofia run from 18th December till 1st April - every Saturday.

Will be skiing charters like Turin, Geneva, Innsbruck and Salzburg with TUI.

SWBKCB 2nd Sep 2017 05:35


Eastern is now linked with Flybe, so under the franchise scheme. Flight numbers will now be BE I believe but no rebranding.
Not sure if your referring just to the Swiss Saab when you say there will be no rebranding, but there will be for at least some of the main fleet - see this link from the Eastern thread (for those of a nervous disposition, look away now - it's hideous)

http://skyliner-aviation.de/viewphot...v2&picid=10024

Jamesair 2nd Sep 2017 08:35

Jet 2 operate the Sofia charters on behalf of Balkan Holidays

NorthEasterner 2nd Sep 2017 14:45


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 9879952)
Not sure if your referring just to the Swiss Saab when you say there will be no rebranding, but there will be for at least some of the main fleet - see this link from the Eastern thread (for those of a nervous disposition, look away now - it's hideous)

http://skyliner-aviation.de/viewphot...v2&picid=10024

The link doesn't work.

No - I was referring to the main fleet. To what I've heard from various crew of T3, only around 4-5 Eastern aircraft will be rebranded as Flybe for the Scottish routes.

However the venture / franchise is so confusing that it is difficult for some to keep up with, including myself, various crew and no doubt other departments.

Marra123 4th Sep 2017 13:29

Has the 10 year anniversary of the Emirates service passed by without any mention?

Sure it was 01/09/2007 when the route started but never heard anything said about it.

brian_dromey 4th Sep 2017 13:39

The "Etihad" S2000 even more confusing than it appears. The operating airline is Darwin Airline. Etihad has now sold its interest in the airline to Adria, so the airline is to be renamed Adria Airways Switzerland.
I think its an Eastern Airways service, codeshare with flyBe, operated by Darwin Airline in Ethiad colours. But it could be a flyBe device operated by Darwin Airline in Etihad colours, on behalf of Eastern.

tigertanaka 4th Sep 2017 15:37


Originally Posted by Marra123 (Post 9882136)
Has the 10 year anniversary of the Emirates service passed by without any mention?

Sure it was 01/09/2007 when the route started but never heard anything said about it.

I saw something as part of an email from Newcastle Airport

Celebrating 10 years flying to Dubai
We're celebrating 10 years of the daily Emirates service to Dubai this month.

Since launch, over 1.8 million passengers have travelled to and from Dubai on the service, a great asset to the North East region.


That was it.

milhouse999 4th Sep 2017 16:00

Thomas Cook NCL-CFU was operated by G-TCDH today but then did CFU-BRS, whilst the BRS-CFU flight operated by G-TCDN that landed at the same time did CFU back to NCL. The crew swapped AC on the tarmac in CFU, we were on the CFU-NCL flight.

Why would they swap over aircraft in CFU? Both identical new A321s!

LiamNCL 4th Sep 2017 16:20


Originally Posted by milhouse999 (Post 9882261)
Thomas Cook NCL-CFU was operated by G-TCDH today but then did CFU-BRS, whilst the BRS-CFU flight operated by G-TCDN that landed at the same time did CFU back to NCL. The crew swapped AC on the tarmac in CFU, we were on the CFU-NCL flight.

Why would they swap over aircraft in CFU? Both identical new A321s!

Happens often by all airlines you very rarely get the same aircraft stuck at one base all summer. G-EZRE did NCL-PMI yesterday then PMI-MAN whilst G-EZPY did PMI-NCL resulting in over an hour delay.

milhouse999 4th Sep 2017 16:22


Originally Posted by LiamNCL (Post 9882275)
Happens often by all airlines you very rarely get the same aircraft stuck at one base all summer. G-EZRE did NCL-PMI yesterday then PMI-MAN whilst G-EZPY did PMI-NCL resulting in over an hour delay.

Cheers ! :ok:

Just seemed odd as both AC had been based at NCL and BRS for some time. I was worried the ground handlers had put the wrong pax on the wrong AC for a moment as the only 2 AC on the ground at CFU were identical TCXs :)

LiamNCL 4th Sep 2017 16:23


Originally Posted by milhouse999 (Post 9882277)
Cheers ! :ok:

Just seemed odd as both AC had been based at NCL and BRS for some time. I was worried the ground handlers had put the wrong pax on the wrong AC for a moment as the only 2 AC on the ground at CFU were identical TCXs :)

Keep an eye on G-TCDH i wouldnt be suprised to see it swap again and go to MAN as soon as the chance comes if its needed in the hangar soon. MAN-BRS swaps may arise more often than MAN-NCL so if a aircraft is needed at TCX HQ soon for a checkup it makes more sense to first swap with BRS downroute then onto MAN.

GrahamK 4th Sep 2017 17:31

The Emirates got a water salute on the 1st

Ph1l1pncl 4th Sep 2017 17:38


Originally Posted by NCL-TRC (Post 9871453)
I'm told that SAS are withdrawing, booking search suggests last flight is the 27th October

I've tweeted SAS and they replied saying the route was ending for the winter, and I asked if it was coming back seasonally in 2018 and they said yes. Whether that happens or not we shall see next summer. It's a shame the route is ending as it's managed to go a few years now in a time slot which wasn't the best for connections.

NCL-TRC 4th Sep 2017 20:30


Originally Posted by Ph1l1pncl (Post 9882348)
I've tweeted SAS and they replied saying the route was ending for the winter, and I asked if it was coming back seasonally in 2018 and they said yes. Whether that happens or not we shall see next summer. It's a shame the route is ending as it's managed to go a few years now in a time slot which wasn't the best for connections.

Strange considering it stopped for the best part of the busy part of this summer?

NorthEasterner 4th Sep 2017 23:15


Originally Posted by brian_dromey (Post 9882144)
The "Etihad" S2000 even more confusing than it appears. The operating airline is Darwin Airline. Etihad has now sold its interest in the airline to Adria, so the airline is to be renamed Adria Airways Switzerland.
I think its an Eastern Airways service, codeshare with flyBe, operated by Darwin Airline in Ethiad colours. But it could be a flyBe device operated by Darwin Airline in Etihad colours, on behalf of Eastern.

It's an Eastern Airways service/flight; under the venture scheme - codeshared with Flybe. Resulting in crew being Etihad Regional and Flybe (depending on crewing, rotas etc). No eastern airways crewing the S2000.

Hopefully that clears it up.

Jamesair 5th Sep 2017 10:37

A post on the Eastern thread says an AIS Jetstream 31 moves to NCL this weekend and that together with the S2000 will operate the NCL routes. The post gives the operational details.

HH6702 7th Sep 2017 17:29

Ryanair Summer 2018

flights now on sale same as this year so far
expect a few new routes in the coming weeks to be added

EK77WNCL 7th Sep 2017 23:26

Definitely hoping for a few new routes, and I'll be slightly disappointed if there arent, but very pleased to see that all of the current routes have survived

Without wanting to speak to soon, here's hoping that Gdansk, Warsaw, Wroclaw and Madrid have survived the "touch and go"phase. It's generally accepted that if Ryanair aren't happy in the first 12 months they'll drop it. Fingers crossed!

Will easyJet get their skates on before they lose any more ground? If I were them, routes like Munich, Amsterdam, Paris, Venice and Milan would be key routes to get their foot in the door before FR. I'm sure that Madrid could have been an easyJet contender

Jamesair 9th Sep 2017 08:45

Changes to Summer 18 Jet 2 schedules:
Alicante 11 weekly (down from 12)
Antalya 3 (up from 2)
Dalaman 3 (up from 2)

tigertanaka 9th Sep 2017 13:38

Came across a timetable for scheduled flights from NCL in 1983. Flights were:

ABZ - Dan Air (1 daily on weekends), Air UK (2 daily on weekdays)
AMS - British Caledonian (2 daily)
BFS - Dan Air (1 daily on weekdays)
BGO - Dan Air (1 daily on weekdays)
BHX - Dan Air (2 flights on Tue & Thur)
BOH - Dan Air (2 daily)
CWL - Dan Air (2 flights on Mon, Wed & Fri)
DUB - Dan Air (1 daily - not Sat)
GLA - British Caledonian (2 daily)
IOM - Dan Air (2x Sat, 1x Sun)
JER - Dan Air (1x Sat, 3x Sun)
LGW - Dan Air (2 daily on weekdays, 1 daily on weekends)
LHR - BA (5 daily weekdays, 3 daily weekends)
MAN - Dan Air (2 daily on weekdays)
SVG - Dan Air (1 daily on weekdays)

Scheduled flights were only Britain, Ireland and Norway - a far cry from today.

2 flights a day to Bournemouth stood out for me. Double dailies to GLA and MAN too.

SWBKCB 9th Sep 2017 14:13

The BCAL will have been GLA-NCL-AMS and the BOH would have been NCL-MAN-BOH with CWL and BHX in the mix on certain days - Dan Air had an extensive 'bus stop' domestic network on 748's (Avro not Boeing....), so not quite as weird as it looks.

Also there was a strict split between scheduled and charters, and never the twain were mixed....

jensdad 9th Sep 2017 19:01

I'm surprised there weren't any flights to Paris in 1983. I know Air UK used to do it at some point in the 1980s, followed by Air France with TAT F28s. Also, either CP Air or Wardair would have been doing Toronto at that time, Wardair was definitely classed as a scheduled flight (the spin about Emirates being NCL's first long-haul schedule being untrue). Maybe this was a winter timetable? Schedules on your list cover UK, Ireland, Norway, Jersey and Netherlands btw (sorry for the pedantry :) )

SWBKCB 9th Sep 2017 19:12

Were Wardair schedules? My memory says charters, but you know what memories are like! :ok: (though much derided at the time by young spotters like me, having worked with them I found them to actually be an excellent company - far better than the likes of Laker, CP Air, etc)

jensdad 9th Sep 2017 19:24

Yup, I definitely remember seeing them in the airport timetable. Flight number was WD180/181 (God, I must have been a strange child). I suspect that a lot of seats were sold in blocks to Jetsave and other travel agents but they were defo in the scheduled services timetable.

jensdad 9th Sep 2017 19:34


Originally Posted by jensdad (Post 9887139)
Schedules on your list cover UK, Ireland, Norway, Jersey and Netherlands btw (sorry for the pedantry :) )


Sorry, the Isle of Man is also - like Jersey - not part of the UK. Before someone is pedantic about my pedantry. :)


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