What does this equate to in terms of Load Factor ?

Just less than 75% loads if the planned/offered scheduled capacity on a 2 class 773ER was fulfilled

Thanks V.V. The Load Factor looks good but not outstanding.

When you base it on the fact we probably didn't have all 2 class in September, I'd say I'm pretty confident actual load factors will have been in the 80-85% margin. I'd like to hope so anyway.

EK probably run it (it, as in medium haul in general between about 6 and 8 hour sector lengths) at a profit on about 50% if not less when cargo and on board purchases etc. are taken into account.

Lets see if we can break 20,000 for October! Only need 5 more people per flight!

Just been reading a report on Manchester Airport future routes and NCL is listed as being on the cusp of needing an air link.

Dubai would need a huge increase on October 12, which carried a weak 13,215 pax

Based on the aircraft used during september, more 428 seaters than previous months, a total of 22708 seats were available (of course EK would be selling for 428 seats all month, but anyhow lets see), the average load works out as 83.98%.

Other routes:
Copenhagen 1969
Paris CDG 12330 -26%
Dusseldorf 2962 -32%
Dublin 11103 -16%
Amsterdam 31993 +28%
Stavanger 2094 -7%

Gatwick 7572 -3%
Heathrow 43782 +3%
Aberdeen 2702 +45%
Bristol 14199 +10%
Jersey 2238 +11%
Southampton 8172 +2%

Sunshine routes a mixed bag.

Dubai
 

September saw 9 three class 77w's used and at an average of 360 seats available per sector I make the load factor around 78%.

Assuming yields weren't sacrificed to get bums on seats (although sometimes that has to be done in the short-term), then it seems to be going in the right direction.

Similar happened with Turkish at BHX, dreadful loads for quite a while then fares we're cut and a big promotional campaign and things turned round dramatically without affecting other hub services - well for a while anyway although there was some evidence EK we're hit for a while when TK went 10 weekly. No doubt TK will be one airline to chase in future for NCL.

However without being too downbeat I see that 10 three-class aircraft have already visited this month on EK35 but Eid does affect loads for a few days and maybe things have picked up again with the last four flights have been two class versions.

Pete

"Just been reading a report on Manchester Airport future routes and NCL is listed as being on the cusp of needing an air link"

Sorry, could you clarify please? I didn't quite get it haha. Is that talking about MAN-NCL flight? I'd say that's an excellent idea.

Thanks
Martin

I don't know who would use it, it's cheaper and wouldn't take much longer to drive.

There is also a direct train link.

Yes, it was saying that a NCL - MAN airlink was needed in the near future.

NCL now appears on 2 domestic airports wishlists for a new route, the other one is Norwich.

Bring back Gill Air!

It would be good to see Turkish serving their Istanbul hub from NCL but I think the fact that it now serves Edinburgh might prevent that happening. I hope not.

I notice that the airport said it was talking to airlines about taking on the Gatwick route.....no announcement yet from Easyjet.

Slight capacity increase for KLM this winter, all 4 daily flights being operated by 737s, IIRC last winter it was 3 x 737s and 1 Baby Fokker

Off topic but are KLM ever getting those E170's??? I'm sure they were supposed to be to replace the 70's.

Also I've heard we're supposed to be getting a new Spanish airline next year? Vueling??? Would be nice, been waiting for them for a few years now.

No KLC order for E170s afaik, just E190s.

New airline for next year is Jetairfly with a weekly Palma for Thomson - it appears the TOM PUY flight has disappeared though?

I seem to remember that Dan-Air's Link City service in the 70s/80s included a MAN-NCL sector. It'd be great to have it back. I'd far prefer to fly (35/40 mins?) than to trog into central Newcastle, spend £60 and 3h30m on the train to get to Manchester Airport.

Sadly, it would be quite contrary to NCL's own route development ambitions to funnel traffic to a local competitor. However, if no-one comes forward to operate the Gatwick route, it suddenly becomes more of a feasible option. Manchester is, of course, flybe's domestic hub.

Any reason why TCX's TFS flight landed at GLA and is now travelling back to NCL?

Doesn't seem as if the earlier evacuation would of affected this flight, might be wrong though..

MAN-NCL is a no-goer. Besides, I believe the Newcastle-Man Airport train will be readjusted to go to Liverpool instead in the near future.

What happened with the TCX evacuation? I was at the airport this morning and as I left at about 10:15 there were 2 ambulances going in. Also, on Saturday when I was there, once again as I was leaving at about 07:50 there was an ambulance going in. Unlucky coincidence?