Nope, Swissport.

I was only referring to Newcastle Airport's own webpage as I referred to in post. Maybe Newcastle Airport need to keep their web pages up to date.

.from: Lost Baggage - Newcastle Airport

Also, I see they've not yet updated the passenger statistics for June of this year:

Domestic passengers quoted as 9691, where a previous poster has indicated he received a response from NIA who said the true figure was 96910, which seems more in line with year on year comparisons:

Passenger Statistics

Can anyone help me out with a quandary myself and my work colleague are having. I know it's a bit of a long shot with the information. When TCX chartered in a Mint Airways a/c to be based at NCL, the a/c went tech and another one was subbed in. The flight was going to EFL, and he thinks the airline started with a 'B'. The crew refused to fly in as there was only a few pax booked on the OB flight as it was just after the May half term holiday but the IB flight was pretty full. The a/c flew out the next day. Does anyone know which airline was covering the Mint Airways a/c? Thanks in advance

Sunshine79 can you supply the year and month if possible?

June, not sure of the year though, possibly 2011

Blue Panorama perhaps, or Astraeus?

A lot of people on here seem to be asking for United to operate a longer summer schedule, or even year round. How exactly is this going to help the route be a success? If you can't fill a 757 in the busy summer months, how exactly are you going to fill it in the winter months?

Apart from a possible peak around Christmas time, there's very little demand in winter. Look at EDI for example - 5 daily flights to the US in the summer, dropping to just 1 (possibly 2) in the winter.

Year round may be better for attracting the loyalty of business passengers, but you still need the tourism traffic to be there in the summer to make the route viable.

Like every other route they have started, it's summer only to gauge demand. Once they see the demand is there, then they will try and operate a winter schedule too.

Hang on, that's not the case with United (ne Continental).
All their UK regional stations were launched as year round from Day One with the exception of Newcastle where they struggled to do well in the summer peak, perhaps confirming their initial preconceptions. This one's been an oddball tbh from day one.

I stand corrected. I thought Bristol/Belfast had started summer only.

Belfast went summer only last year but has become year round again but a gap of around 6 weeks between end of Jan and early March

Ncl could become 1st April to 15th Dec operation maybe??
Maybe daily during the July/Aug 5x weekly may, June and sept then 3 weekly the rest of it

Or maybe daily july-august and no flights for the rest of the year. UA/Star don't seem to be able to break the grip that oneWorld/SkyTeam have from NCL over the Atlantic

Cant see any if those haphazard chop and change timetables working, people need persistence and consistence. Short high season programs are not UA normal patterns. I fear its for the ditch. Not sure why OW/*A is any different at NCL than some other UK UA stations

Key point is they may well have another destination lined up where another B757 can be used better all year round. Once that happens, it's game over. NCL needs to justify using that aeroplane against a load of other airports on the United network, or even new destinations. If your market is thrice weekly to New York, then you're in Thomas Cook or Jet2 territory.

Problem I think with ncl is last year United went 2x daily at edi also delta came onto the route daily also at edi giving loads extra seats so close to ncl.
BHX got American as well on the New York.
A lot of extra seats for New York from uk regional.

However saying that United came back to ncl for this summer and also an extra day per week.

If United weren't making money and struggled last summer why would they come back this summer with an extra flight per week.
Both airport and United said they were happy with sales last year.

This year more passengers have been flying the route so this must be good.

Again I think we need to wait until the airport and United have these talks as I think we may get a surprise!!!! ( hope I'm right)

Would of been so much easier if they just ditched the route last year than letting it run 6x weekly this year getting more PAX on the route for them to pull it

How'd you work that out? Don't understand your logic.

Last year was fairly poor could of been ditched then when lets face it do UA really have any intrest in being here for years to come ? Instead they have gave us a 2nd summer where loads have been better only to be sat here looking at it being ditched anyway. Im not sure about you but i would of rather it just went after 1 season just my opinion not a logic.

Would a UA 757 staging through Ncl to maybe Frankfurt or Berlin work? Of course dropping the fare would help as well.

Would a UA 757 staging through Ncl to maybe Frankfurt or Berlin work? Of course dropp
 

Simply put, NO!
Berlin and Frankfurt work well for STAR as direct connects. Why, in this day and age, would a passenger choose (say) FRA/NCL/EWR over FRA/EWR at the same cost - economically it would not be any better priced? Fact is, NCL has always been a thin route for UA, their local sales manager has already admitted so to the trade regarding revenue and load.

x3 weekly EWR-NCL-BRS-EWR, x4 weekly EWR-BRS-NCL-EWR. DONE! Problems solved, might even support a 787 when the 757's go

Tongue firmly in cheek I assume!

yeah break the airlines standard transatlantic 757 non double drop routing policy to accommodate NCL....

Firmly ATNotts! Although it worked for Transat ;););)

Slightly less firmly in cheek though, IF this turns out to be true - and I'll be heartily disappointed if it is because I don't believe we've been given a fair run... AND to be fair to us, we have shown growth over the 2 seasons - I'd be straight on the phone to Dubai about DXB-NCL-JFK/EWR-NCL-DXB

It sounds stupid, and even I'm very sceptical about a 77W on NCL-NYC but it provides more cargo uplift, higher reliability, lower fares and there's more brand awareness and existing loyalty, as well as a similar number of connections at the other end (at JFK not EWR) and in a perfect universe it could even create scope for a couple of hundred Emirati/US visitors a year who just fancy a break somewhere different on their trip...

I'm going to wait though, without wanting to speak too soon, I don't think they're going to have pulled out just yet - I do have faith in them to give it a proper run

And why would the Americans agree to this? and who provides the onwards connections?

Thats just like SIN-MAN-IAH so why not

Ian

CONFIRMED

United drops NCL. Statement on Website

BHX5DME

Where do you get the seat map info from?

Story in the Shields Gazette.

Very disappointing but it was always "use it or lose it" and there are some very poor double figures loads in the next few days....in the peak month of August.

Maybe someone like Norwegian could make it work, in the meantime there are just a few NY flights by Jet 2 over Christmas.

Maybe when the A321LR are ready we will gain the route again.

Would be nice for jet2 to offer 3x weekly during the summer however I can't see it happening.

Prices have been a problem I think.
Proves there is a market just finding an airline that wants that market share and willing to accept a small margin.

Cargo is the key to making a route work so maybe we do need a stop off with another airport or a low cost airline like DY with the 787??

I prefer using Aer Lingus, maybe they could push that more

Not great news, especially as when the airport execs went out a couple of weeks ago the talk was positive, even of a reduced service through the winter. But can hardly say I was surprised when I was told last week. Best bet for NCL for now at least is probably to pursue WOW via KEF if they want to get into the transatlantic market.

Wow 5x weekly in the summer may work also great place for a city break to KEF also

ICE or WOW via KEF would certainly fill that gap for now but i do agree that we may be in a better position when a more fuel efficient A321LR comes online and we are well past the brexit fallout. What i will say though is there needs to be a happy medium and alot of people tweeting the airport saying it was just too expensive sometimes as much as £200+ more than flying via LHR. You cannot expect great loads when people push for the best price and you potentially out price yourself off the route. Never mind as previously stated it was only a summer seasonal anyway not really a great loss but could Jet2 ever have any success in turning their 757s in Transatlantic 3x weeklys from say LBA - NCL - EMA ? Strictly from Airports not serving NYC where there is no competition ? Even though its not likely to happen , Could Those 757s make more per sear doing transatlantic than what they do stuck on routes like FAO / PMI ? Just a thought.

It's a shame but not unforeseen. I don't think we need an Icelandic hub. NCL had plenty enough hub flights as it is.

The only Icelandic link would be jet2 and their holiday outfit. Couple of times a week.

I am afraid because of the need to fill the back of as many as thirty flights a day from the London area to NYC there is considerable price dumping via the consolidators.

This effects the viability of many UK and near EU cities abilities to compete fairly on direct services to the/from New York.

Added to the United 75w offering especially in the back is less than appealing these days.

The J angled flat seats are however okay.

Most other British airports will have about 95% load factor not 70 - in the summer time period.

No. Year round. 3x weekly in winter.

SWBKCB, (un)fortunately there's not much the Americans can really do, and we have the EU-US/EU-UAE/UAE-US openskies agreements to think for that

And there's not much at Newark, Alaska and Virgin America. But at JFK, Emirates passengers can connect to Jetblue's huge range of destinations from there, and it's probably not that much less comprehensive than United's