Flybe opted to operate from LBA for the evening!!

The Q400 is able to operate to CAT 2 (300m RVR, DH 100ft) - but alas 05L is not authorized for CAT 2 ops. BLK, BHX and LBA have all seen flybe diversions.

What is the ILS on 05L. Is it only Cat 1? When it's replaced will it be full Cat 3 or remain as it is.

05L has published CAT I and CAT III minina. It doesn't however, have CAT II minima for CAT C aircraft. I think it's something to do with the RADALT going bonkers as you pass over the wee valley on very short final.

Nothing that 300 tonnes of gravel wouldn't sort out!!!!

Taxiway to 05R anyone?

You need a lot more than 300 tons try 300,000 and I bet you would still be short


Ian B

You get the idea though, 2 runways that can be used at the same time, novel idea I know!!!

MAN ILS
 

From the above few posts I take it that the ILS on 23R is still not working?

23R ILS? I remember the old days when the flight path went in front of the house.

Latest is 30/11. I've got quite used to the 229 path and the morning VS has stopped waking me up. :zzz:

Traffic stats for October don't make any better reading than previous months. Terminal pax (i.e. excluding transits) now slipped below 19m for the rolling 12 month period.

http://www.manchesterairport.co.uk/m...tisticsOct.pdf

Don`t forget to factor Ryanair for the large decrease in October

Ian B

24R ILS update
 

From the MAG World website - dated 9th November 2009


"The replacement of the ILS on Runway 23R has taken somewhat longer than planned due to technical difficulties with some of the existing ground communications infrastructure. This delayed the submission of the final safety cases for consideration by the CAA. All ground works are now complete awaiting approvals, which we are expecting to be forthcoming this week."

VOR/DME 23R tonight. It's good practise LOL

For Fri pm!! EGCC 122301Z...... TEMPO 1316/1401 18023G40KT 2000 +RA :uhoh:

EZY has released its Manchester schedules for the summer which show four aircraft on station. Alicante, Athens, Dalaman, Heraklion, Malaga, Malta and Tenerife all see additional services. Schedule gives 62 departures a week (compared to 54 in June '10) of which 7 are operated by a LPL-based aircraft on a 'W' pattern.

Are there going to be more as Bastia shows on drop down bar but no availability
only operated for a short period this year



Ian B

Bastia operates weekly on a Sunday. There are (by my reckoning) 7 gaps in the schedule (3 morning and 4 evening) so one would assume a couple of routes are still to be announced.

Thankfully wasn't there when we arrived at 21:30pm

Went halfway around the hold at DAYNE due to traffic build up

EGCC 122301Z...... TEMPO 1316/1401 18023G40KT 2000 +RA

Thankfully wasn't there when we arrived at 21:30pm

Err thats because it is a forecast for later on today Fri 13th and not last night.
Back to the Met class for some!!

Should of gone to specsavers LOL

Alitalia
 

Alitalia 777 due 1st Dec for paint job at Air Livery :)

Ops Tower Bar
 

Just found this on UK Airport News.

I assume that this is the old Ops Tower rather than Control Tower!

So where has everyone gone who used to work in the Ops Tower - Ops 3 etc and I think the PABX was up there at one stage?

I don't suppose there would be any chance of cask ale up there but it would be nice to have some somewhere at MAN. How come there is no Wetherspoons at MAN - plenty at other UK airports!

Suzeman


18.11.09
In a world first, Manchester Airport is to convert its old (and currently out of use) control tower in Terminal 1 to create an elevated 110sq m luxury bar. The airport is seeking a partner to manage the new business once complete.

The space is arranged over four levels, with Level 5 featuring the open-plan bar. There, passengers will have unobstructed views over the airfield. Access is from Level 2 – the main retail area in Departures - via a lift or a spiral staircase within the core of the building. The Level 2 entrance area could be opened up to the concourse, and could be used for merchandising to maximise passing trade. This area could also be used as a reception / concierge zone where guests could wait before travelling to the bar on Level 5.

Manchester Airport said the control tower would contain ‘an exciting space with unparalleled views,’ and that it would be ‘comfortable, intimate and special’. The company added: ‘Manchester Airport is committed to working together in partnership to create an innovative and remarkable destination for a special brand.’ The bar aims to complement the recent £50m upgrade of Terminal 1.

Ditherspoons !
 

:} With the decrease in movements and runway opening times, those ATC chaps have decided that they to may be opening up a rather Upmarket bar on the old 23L / 05R control desk. Various names for this bar have been suggested such as "Slippery when wet " , or "Hollier than thou & 23R" and even "What's an ILS then " !

Retail outlets on the way in will sell various mementoes of Airport memorabilia such as, the remains of the many holes in 23R and taxiway A.
A Flight progress strip of an inbound Fed-Ex MD-11.
A choice of now defunct Flight Plans will be available from Malaysian Airlines, El Al, South African, China Airlines, Qantas, Alitalia, Air Portugal, Iberia, Air Baltic, Egyptair, Syrian Air, Air Algerie, Air Canada, British Eagle, Hunting Clan, Tradair, Air Links, and our very own Mercury Airlines and many more to follow!

Prize draws will take place on a regular basis to 'Ride out' with those Hot-Pour boys. Many holes to fill, so lots of opportunitys, tickets - A pound !

Also replicas of the Town-Halls within the Greater Manchester Area. All poceeds from these sales in particular will go direct to the councils themselves, as they will not be seen subsiding the local " Global Warming Polutant" (Well they never have done as far as I know, so why change?)

I could go on but I'll shut -up now.
Do we have any takers?? :(

The 'control' tower was never used to control any traffic at MAN. This tower was only used for office space for Apron control where they would allocate parking stands. This has now been moved into a larger airport operations complex.

Does this have anything to do with Manchester TMA and its associated ancilliary work moving to Prestwick, surely that will have freed up some room at MAN. Is this access from airside only?

Steve

No Steve, this tower was never ATC related. It was formerly used by Apron Control who allocated stands etc from there.

Oooo, artist impressions of the tower bar.

Manchester Airport set to convert Terminal 1 control tower into a luxury bar; seeks partner for new concession – 16/11/09 | TheMoodieReport.com

T1
 

Can someone tell me what is located in the old first floor food hall in T1 now.

Is it one of the lounges?

cheers

I think there are various lounges up there.

Seems to me that his space could be better utilised by, and SHOULD be used by.... Airfield Control (formerly Apron Control). They (AC) now occupy an office in the decrepit old Tower Block with NO windows. They cant even SEE the apron they are meant to be controlling! Absolute madness if you ask me! I don't see why MAPLC just doesn't get rid of the airplane side of the airport all together and run the place as one big friggin mall, because that's what it is! Nothing more than an extension to the Trafford Centre!

from where they can not see the apron. Its a joke. Manchester Airport is run by clowns

"Retail outlets on the way in will sell various mementoes of Airport memorabilia such as, the remains of the many holes in 23R and taxiway A.
A Flight progress strip of an inbound Fed-Ex MD-11.
A choice of now defunct Flight Plans will be available from Malaysian Airlines, El Al, South African, China Airlines, Qantas, Alitalia, Air Portugal, Iberia, Air Baltic, Egyptair, Syrian Air, Air Algerie, Air Canada, British Eagle, Hunting Clan, Tradair, Air Links, and our very own Mercury Airlines and many more to follow!"


Come on don't be stingy with that list....see also

Luxair, Mauritius, Seychelles, GulfAir, Air India, RAM, Uzbek, Mearsk, Biman, Estonian, Austrian........

"Manchester Airport is run by clowns"
This statement is incorrect.
The airport is run by a small, one-eared ginger cat. :E

Should, God forbid, there be another major loss of life such as the 737 incident in the 1980's, one wonders what at a subsequent enquiry, the decision to remove operational staff from this vantage point to a lesser one will be viewed as.

Sad day, lions led by donkeys (with accountancy qualifications)

Sir George Cayley

Sir George Cayley
What has this got to do with a plane crash? the control tower is not affected it is only the old ground handling building which has not been used for quite a while for stand allocation!

Ian

And to be fair Apron Control have never needed windows or to see the apron or stands to do their PC-software-based job. So it makes little difference where they are.

Qatar 777 ops
 

Qatar will use 777 on their Sat 21st Nov service :ok:

Is there a reason why a couple of carriers are dangling the larger aircraft in front of us?

Is the 777 in for any special reason or just as the schedulin/servicing works go?

Qatar 777E
 

I got told the Qatar 777 was due in on the 22nd Sunday and 25th Wednesday. No definite though. W/B planenutter

PPRUNE is amazing really. Just thought I would pop in to see what's new in the world and I find that tomorrow I will be wandering around the QR045 thinking, "this A330 looks a bit odd, someones nicked the winglets. Bu**er me, it's a Cripple!"

You would have thought someone would have mentioned it earlier wouldn't you? You know just to make sure there would be no handling issues. :hmm: