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mickyman 7th Apr 2009 18:24

Manofman

It seems that Manchester is the center of your universe.
It is a large regional airport - my first comment which I
scrubbed was to be:'spoke not hub' perhaps I should
have gone with it,so you could better understand?

Ametyst2

Your post is a wise one.

MM

StoneyBridge Radar 7th Apr 2009 18:39


Here's my two pence worth...EK to introduce First Class on the MAN route...discuss.
...and with something rather big, I understand. :eek:

Well they've got to fly the buggers somewhere...

Ringwayman 7th Apr 2009 19:59

Elsewhere it's thought of a 1 77W (3 class!) and 2 A332 (2 class). Either way, we're not talking a large increase in capacity.

Other news from today is Ryanair putting further expansion on hold till airport charges come down and with that, the number of pax they expect to carry will come down to 800,000 from the projected 1 million.

Tulsablue 8th Apr 2009 06:08

The web site is up and running but has a name change for legal reasons.

You can book online or pay on the coach.

www.airportbycoach.com

TheMaskedDispatcher 8th Apr 2009 18:27

Manchester - 7
 
I muchly enjoyed the comment about Management by Comittee turning racehorses into camels . .superb (writes down to use himself later . .)!

Have we all been enjoying the 'Festival of Self-Congratulation' that is planetalk this month? So nice to see so many smiling faces standing around clapping each other on the back for a job well done by so many faceless workers beneath them . . well done all (scrapes irony and sarcasm off the wall).

Along similar lines i propose an alternate award ceremony . . Categories for this will include. . .

Most Bizzare Walking Route for Arriving Pax Award
Most Difficult to Find Sortation Chute for New Ramp Staff Award
Most Lengthy/Difficult Staff Entry Point Award
Most Distant Staff Car Park (By Postcode) Award
Departure Gate Most Obsured By Shops Award
Most Ignored Signage Award
Most Difficult Gate for Pax to Find Award
Most Inaccessable Gate for Disabled Pax Award (aka the Chris Bonnington Award for Terminal Design using Steps)
Longest Remote Bussing Departure (requiring sandwiches and toilet stop) Award
Most Lethal Airbridge Award (By Terminal).

Nominations on here by 1st May for announcment and Award Ceremony 5th May . . . Vote Pruners, its your right!!!

T-M-D(emocrat):E

lexxity 8th Apr 2009 20:13

I'll start.

QUOTE]Most Bizzare Walking Route for Arriving Pax Award
Most Difficult to Find Sortation Chute for New Ramp Staff Award
Most Lengthy/Difficult Staff Entry Point Award - The hilarious "staff priority" channel in T3 departures. Hilariously takes around 15mins. Priority my @rse.
Most Distant Staff Car Park (By Postcode) Award - Staff West
Departure Gate Most Obsured By Shops Award - Gate 141
Most Ignored Signage Award - All in T3
Most Difficult Gate for Pax to Find Award - Gate 141.
Most Inaccessable Gate for Disabled Pax Award (aka the Chris Bonnington Award for Terminal Design using Steps) - Where to start with this one? Gates 3, 141-148.
Longest Remote Bussing Departure (requiring sandwiches and toilet stop) Award - Gate or stand? Gate is obviously 3.
Most Lethal Airbridge Award (By Terminal). Gate 44 without a shadow of a doubt, fcuking thing dropped out from under the door with nothing touching the drop bar! Door was only opened a crack and poof floor disappears! :eek:
[/QUOTE]

Trash_Hauler 8th Apr 2009 21:21

But the money they saved by not fixing that airbridge was probably what paid for the world's smallest WHSmiths at Gtae 50. A wise investment some may say!

MANFlyer 9th Apr 2009 09:37

Came in on an SQ328 last week absolutely packed to the rafters. They even had a fare paying pax in 16K, which is very unusual as 16H and 16K are always kept empty for the second tech crew they have on the MAN flights. The F.O. had to spend his time down the back when on his break. Sad to see this going down to 3 times a week next month.

After doing my fair share of pummeling the hole that is MAN these days, I have to say my last two arrivals have been extremely quick. OK last week off SQ328 I had hand luggage only, was off first as I was in row 16 and watched with amusement all pax in J go to 1L as I went to 2L alone knowing that's the way off at MAN. I was in the motor 10-12 minutes after disembarking.

Also stunned to see my arrival a couple of weeks earlier on LH from FRA and luggage arrived within 10 minutes of getting to the belt and I was out 20 mins after disembarking with checked luggage, which is the best I can remember in the last 15 years.

Just shows they can make it more user friendly if they try. The place is still a mess though and T1 is now horrible to depart from. I have a paticular hatred of being made to walk through a duty free shop when I have no wish to do so.


Here's my two pence worth...EK to introduce First Class on the MAN route...discuss.
Absolute bollox. End of discussion. ;)

TheMaskedDispatcher 9th Apr 2009 21:28

Manchester - 7
 
The wheels have fallen off again . . .airports 'ChromaFusion' has been offline for 2 1/2 hours now . . no-one knows when aircraft are landing, where they are going or how many or IF there are any Wchr requests . . possibly because its the start of the long weekend? Shall we ask Geoff if we can have a new comp when he comes in on . ..erm . . TUESDAY?!!!

T-M-D

Suzeman 10th Apr 2009 23:00

Well MAN Flyer, a different experience for me this time.

I have come back through T1 half a dozen times this year and have also experienced the quick baggage delivery from LH

But just a couple of days ago I had a bad experience. Arriving in T1 on Pier C after a particularly arduous trip, I just wanted to get home. But...

1 Inbound autowalks on Pier c u/s - surprise, surprise...:(

2 Major disaster - no Manchester Evening News in the dispensers..:}

3 IRIS system not working again - on approx 1/3 of my trips through the airport this is the case. The sign saying it is u/s is strategically placed so you go at least halfway down the channel and then have to backtrack and join the queue much further back than you would have done if the sign was at the entrance to the channel. HMI staff have no idea what is wrong with it as usual. :*

4 Bags should all be delivered within 30 mins of chox. At chox +28 the first bag arrives. Some bags get stuck on the belt and jam in the reclaim hall. Lots of bags are then stuck on the feeder belt from the sorting area. No one comes into the reclaim hall to sort it , so pax free the bags themselves. My bag arrives at chox +35. After all it is only a business class priority bag - and most business class bags on this flight seem to come on to the reclaim last. :*

5 At last out into arrivals and a lift into the T1 MSCP. One lift is u/s and large queues build up. :*

6 Not one of MA's Customer services staff seen during this experience.

Whilst some of this is not MA's fault, it IS their problem as most punters will feel they had a bad experience at Manchester and couldn't care a monkeys about who is responsible for what

So welcome to Manchester, the winners of the ACI Europe Excellence in Operations Award in 2008 in the 10-25 million ppa category.The award was made because of, as the judges said “its simple, innovative approach to attracting airlines”, and therefore seems to be nothing to do with service standards.

Hope all the delegates to the next ACI Europe Conference in Manchester in June have a better experience then I did.:}

Suzeman

PS T-M-D

1 Could you explain for us mere SLF what ChromaFusion is supposed to do when it is working?

2 Are you related to the MAN Ops Director? :}

UFGBOY 11th Apr 2009 05:08

Man/lpl
 
Just booked May 4th with open return £9-50... excellent...

website has glitch in that return journey times not showing... am sure just teethng problems...

321go 11th Apr 2009 09:02

Europes best?
 
I heard Manchester got the ACI Award coz they are spending loads of money to host the ACI Europe Conference (at the same time as laying staff off). The award is not of course given on merit by the voting public but by a number of "well connected" people within ACI......You will probably find that the CEO of MAN is on the ACI Europe Board?.Scandal :=

Mmmm...ACI Service Quality - awarded to Manchester "for innovative ideas in attracting new business / airlines".WHICH ONES WOULD THEY BE?

Didn't they get rid of their sales team?? Now wasnt that a good innovative idea and what a difference that has made.I would have thought the Planners should have been first down the road?

They need to start spending money on Customer Service at Manchester rather than more concrete for ghost aeroplanes to park and speculating on buying airports elsewhere when they cant get it right on their own doorstep!.:ugh:

Trash_Hauler 11th Apr 2009 16:10

Chroma Fusion is the system in which all airline operational info is input to. Things such as ETD's and ETA's, wheelchair requirements, gates and stands. Actual arrival and departure times. Chroma Fusion then links up with all the screens in the check in, departures and arrivals halls. It is in Chroma Fusion that belt assignments are given to the baggage loaders and baggage hall personnel. It is in ChromaFusion that all the automated information that you see over the check in desks and furthermore where the check in desk assignments are made. So without Chroma Fusion , you are pretty much screwed and are flying blind.

steve platt 13th Apr 2009 13:39

Does anyone know if Air Livery are opening a new painting base at Man?
If they are it be more jobs and hopefully more movements.

flybar 13th Apr 2009 14:36

From the Air Livery wesbite:


Air Livery are pleased to announce the expansion of their wide bodied capability with a new state of the art facility at Manchester Airport, United Kingdom.
Further details will be announced..........

23.03.2009


bigMANofMAN 13th Apr 2009 19:41

Does anyone know if Air Livery are opening a new painting base at Man?
If they are it be more jobs and hopefully more movements.


They will allegedly be taking over the old BA hangar, about time it got
used for something good !!! Hopefully we will see some interesting colour
schemes come and go ????

bM

steve wilson 13th Apr 2009 20:32

With the demise of Ringway Reports can someone please post a link to a good website that gives a full report of Manchester movements please?

Steve

horatio_b 13th Apr 2009 21:11

Probably a better chance of a reply in Spotter's Corner

one11 13th Apr 2009 21:20


With the demise of Ringway Reports can someone please post a link to a good website that gives a full report of Manchester movements please?

Its not as easy to read but try tasmanchester.com
and then Click on Whats Due and/or Arrival Logs

Suzeman 13th Apr 2009 22:01

Chroma Fusion
 
Thanks Trash Hauler

I presume Chroma Fusion replaced AMOSS?

And shouldn't something as important as that have some redundancy and back up? :confused:

Suzeman


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