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learjet50 3rd Mar 2009 10:54

Turin

I agree with virgin about your comments

How stupid to say a Dus vis Jnb


I will sya no more please dont post stupid posts

Dr Illitout 3rd Mar 2009 10:58

The AN124 had a HUGE boiler shaped thing loaded into it last night.

Also I agree with TURIN, we have heard the "So and So wants to turn MAN into it's next hub" thing so many times.

Rgds Dr I

virgin_cc_wannabe 3rd Mar 2009 13:00

Also I agree with TURIN, we have heard the "So and So wants to turn MAN into it's next hub" thing so many times.

ah ok, so the uk ops manager for lufthansa, which is clearly in the crains article also, has it all wrong. How foolish of me, I forgot you will have more idea of UK ops than them :ugh:

Yeah I know that sentance is petty, but if you cant beat them, join them

..airman 3rd Mar 2009 13:17


ah ok, so the uk ops manager for lufthansa, which is clearly in the crains article also, has it all wrong. How foolish of me, I forgot you will have more idea of UK ops than them :ugh:

Yeah I know that sentance is petty, but if you cant beat them, join them
A bmi hub at MAN wouldn't make sense at the moment. The airline has just retraunched from long haul ops at the Airport and is rumoured to have been considering selling bmi Regional to Flybe.

That said, LH proposed a mini-hub at MAN in the past along with other star alliance carriers, so that would suggest some interest in MAN. HOWEVER, Pier B was reconfigured in such a way to allow connections between these carriers and the whole plan failed to materialise......just as many of the other Manchester 'hub' plans did. BA for example had T3 designed on the basis it would transfer 757s and 777s to MAN for european and long haul routes respectively, and then they changed their business strategy.

Finally, and no offence to anyone, but station managers are rarely fully aware of airline strategy, they are employed for operational purposes and whilst they may be asked questions regarding issues such as this, they often will not have the full picture.

Ian Brooks 3rd Mar 2009 13:58

I cannot see FlyBe taking over bmi Commuter as I think that would give them
a monopoly of UK domestic routes except for London and I`m sure the monopolies people would have something to say about that. It miight be a good idea for FlyBe and
BMI to codeshare on some routes

Ian

TURIN 3rd Mar 2009 14:08


ah ok, so the uk ops manager for lufthansa, which is clearly in the crains article also, has it all wrong. How foolish of me, I forgot you will have more idea of UK ops than them

Yeah I know that sentance is petty, but if you cant beat them, join them
Nope, The LH General Manager has it right.


“In the UK, it's always a possibility. Provided there is the demand it's something we would look at. But we need the demand. Heathrow and Manchester always form part of the discussion.”
Your interpretation of the article is utterly wrong! :ugh:


Also, Ive read an interesting report, one that staes MAN is in Lufthansa's masterplan for bmi.
My "pettiness" is borne out of frustration. These forums used to be full of genuine interest articles and actual facts. They are now full of bonkers speculation by people who know no more than a bad journo with a 2 minute deadline. IE they make it up.

Learjet 50, get with the program will ya, I was taking the p155!! My comments are no more stupid then Virgin CC Wannabe :rolleyes:

virgin_cc_wannabe 3rd Mar 2009 15:00

Nope, The LH General Manager has it right.

ok that is just pure nitpicking for the sake of filling your post i suspect

My "pettiness" is borne out of frustration. These forums used to be full of genuine interest articles and actual facts. They are now full of bonkers speculation by people who know no more than a bad journo with a 2 minute deadline. IE they make it up.

Learjet 50, get with the program will ya, I was taking the p155!! My comments are no more stupid then Virgin CC Wannabe


ok, 3 points here:

1) if you dont like it, either leave the forum or stop posting stupid childish insults. Just because you dont agree it doesnt give you the right of every post.

2) I am mearly posting what I have seen. If you dont like the speculation, please forward your comments to the Lufthansa management team who have reported this speculation to the press, or, if you would rather take it out on me email to [email protected]

3) lat time I checked, this was a RUMOUR forum, if you dont like rumours, then wrong place turin.

PPRuNe Pop 3rd Mar 2009 16:44

The last poster has a point.

We suggest that you carefully think about what you are writing. Don't allow sniping, abuse or giving yourself the dubious pleasure of making something up.

If it isn't fact it has no place on here - and as it happens neither do you.

Please keep to topic and avoid some of the rubbish we are seeing.

AA&R Mods

OltonPete 3rd Mar 2009 18:53

February passenger figures
 
Well here are some facts from the airport website and they are ugly: -

February 2009 terminal passenger figure 1151756 down 16.71%
from 1382775.

Pax including transits 1171654 down 16.84%.

If the link works it will show movements down about 100 a day on
average but there was one less day of course in February 2009
compared to 2008.

http://tinyurl.com/c4ot5o

Pete

wiccan 3rd Mar 2009 18:58

AFAIR, LH were going to pay for the mods to pier "B"....to have priority of stands, both for them and their business partners. MA plc intially said Yes, then changed their minds...possibly due to stand allocation....[Our flight is due in 10 mins. Get that a/c off the stand NOW]
bb

Ringwayman 3rd Mar 2009 19:02

Whilst discussing the merits or otherwise of what LH intends out of MAN, bear in mind that they, (somehow!) grew the number of pax they operated out of MAN by just under 1% to just under 570,000 in 2008. Can we think of other legacy airlines operating here that have seen an increase in pax numbers to/from MAN? As usual, they gave promimence to where pax are connecting on with pretty substantial rises to Hong Kong, Beijing and Mumbai (collectively, Far East/Asia saw up 38% increase in connecting pax. Of course, what that figure is based on would be quite interesting). There are no immediate plans for increasing services.

AUTOGLIDE 4th Mar 2009 07:27

I'm not surprised LH increased pax figures. I use them quite a lot, they've never yet let me down in 5 years of regular flights, and that's what matters to me. It even partially offsets the annoyance of having to go through security twice at FRA T1 on the way back to MAN. But only just :ok:

Dr Illitout 4th Mar 2009 09:23

BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!!
At last the airside chip waggon is open!!!
Near north gate in the cut through between T1 and T2. Tried the chips (£1.50 a portion) last night the were good.
The Chips general manager says that they have great plans for MAN and are going to turn it into a take away hub. Plans are well advanced for some long haul cooking, with Italy, India and China being mentioned.

Rgds Dr I (Wannabe chip eater)

1545 4th Mar 2009 10:18

Just hope that someone doesn't SCOFF at this breaking news!:O

Guest 112233 4th Mar 2009 14:09

Re Chip Van
 
What a great idea - "Have your cake and eat it" - At least MAN has not had its chips.
Can you imagine comming back from nowhare in the middle of the night on a lo-co and felling just battered. Is it just workers or can the SLF grap a bag too ?
CAT III

mikeyuk 4th Mar 2009 16:00

Re Chip Van
 
Its overpriced and wont last long unless they drop the prices,
£ 1.50 for chips :ugh:
£ 1.25 Bottle of pop :ugh:
£ 2.00 Bacon barm :mad:
:=
Greggs is cheaper

parky747 5th Mar 2009 07:50

BA
 
Is it anywhere in the plan for BA to move into T1 as T3 goes more LCC?

And if they were to move into T1, is there enough room if they were to restart ops at MAN?

eggc 5th Mar 2009 08:27


And if they were to move into T1, is there enough room if they were to restart ops at MAN?
Don't think thats something we will need to worry about !

GavinC 5th Mar 2009 14:57

Davies is new MAG chair - Business - News - Manchester Evening News

Skipness One Echo 5th Mar 2009 20:18


Also, I am not a planespotter and to start throwing childish slurs around is just pointless, it adds nothing to the post other than a sense of arrogance
This from virgin_cc_wannabe......because that Etihad post is a bit spotterish. Just a bit. Me? I'm just an enthusiast......*cough* Come out the closet mate :)

mantug01 5th Mar 2009 21:25

Virgin_CC is correct

Etihad are operating the A346 tomorrow and the reg is correct.


You've got to be some sort of spotter or have a professional interest in the goings on at the airport on to be here reading these posts! A rare a/c type into MAN would be of interest to quite a few people and be relevent.

virgin_cc_wannabe 6th Mar 2009 05:59

ok, firstly why was my post about etihad delted, and secondly, why bother with that post skipiness.

People say they want facts on here, so I post a fact and somehow its still not good enough. I give up, its like a creche in here sometimes!

TURIN 6th Mar 2009 10:21

He's right you know! A340 @ MAN

I still think this sort of stuff belongs in the spotters forum. Anyone who works at the airport and is involved with the turn round will already know about it surely. :ok:

MUFC_fan 7th Mar 2009 13:40

Other forum on about El Al looking to come back to the field. I don't know how true these rumours are but I would suspect a 738 twice weekly if there was any truth?

uncovered 10th Mar 2009 10:54

Lgw-man
 
Encouraged by BA's growing lack of interest in LGW I'm hearing strong rumours that EZY will open up LGW-MAN on a 4 daily basis. Anyone hearing the same?

Skipness One Echo 10th Mar 2009 11:09

Do we really need more *FLIGHTS* from Manchester to London?

GrahamK 10th Mar 2009 11:37

Skipness, of course we do. How else are those "Plane Stupid" people going to get down to London to protest? :8

rkenyon 10th Mar 2009 12:01

The latest money making scam....

T1 security are refusing to accept plastic bags that have not been purchased from MAN (2 for £1). So, if you turn up with your existing bag, you will be refused and have to purchase a MAN version.

You just couldn't make it up...

It's only a trial at T1 at the moment.

flying macaco 10th Mar 2009 12:11

at least you could use the second bag to save a pound on your next ryanair flight... :}

learjet50 10th Mar 2009 12:41

Gentlemen

Heard VLM are cutting back on the LCY Route for the end of the Month ???

Any Details ??

I cant see EZY Starting LGW they would surely waste GatwickSlots on a short sector flight might be wrong or are they Buying Gatwick

It could then be called Easywick




Regards

Skipness One Echo 10th Mar 2009 14:30


T1 security are refusing to accept plastic bags that have not been purchased from MAN (2 for £1). So, if you turn up with your existing bag, you will be refused and have to purchase a MAN version.
Is this legal? So if I get a bag from BAA Gatwick and fly up for a meeting I am FORBIDDEN to use it and FORCED to buy another one? ( assuming it's rolled out to T3. )

conradmueller 10th Mar 2009 15:30

I don´t think this is legal.

lexxity 10th Mar 2009 16:15

According to the MAPLC CSA's the buying of bags is certainly coming to T3.

Skipness One Echo 10th Mar 2009 16:56

What's a CSA? I feel a strongly worded letter coming on. Seriously though guys, what the Hell is going on at MAN? This would never have happened in the past as they used to treat their customers like people, not captive shoppers to be fleeced and herded.

dollydaydream 10th Mar 2009 17:41

A couple of weeks ago, a positioning crew member through T3 was made to remove all toiletries, for a 2 night stopover, from a transparent zip top bag into the postage stamp size bags that are now being sold. On protesting she was told it had to be a sealable bag (zip/seal??) and that all 'that stuff' wasn't needed!!! The bag in question has been through daily security in other airports before and since.
Talking to a more reasonable security guy I was told that the legal requirement is a transparent, re-sealable bag and nothing more. I sincerely hope someone challenges this latest travesty at MAN

Redcap49 10th Mar 2009 17:48

According to the DFT website,passengers are expected to present their carry-on liquids in a "single,transparent,re-sealable plastic bag(about the size of a small freezer bag) which itself must not exceed 1 litre in capacity(approx 20cm x 20cm)".
So in my opinion security are out of order if they are insisting that you buy the bags from one of their vending machines as long as you conform to the DFT requirements.
Sounds like another way of Manchester Airport trying to make money out of the public.

lexxity 10th Mar 2009 18:03

Sorry, customer service agent, i.e. the bods in the purple shirts that man the 1st batch of security podiums that you come to. I will not be purchasing clear bags to take my liquids through, stuff that I do need on a daily basis at work, that's just wrong.

globetrotter79 10th Mar 2009 19:01

So if one passes through MAN T1 with their own plastic sealed bag with legal liquids contained WITH a printed copy both of the UK DfT regulations and whatever gumpfh MAN Airport publish on their website (am sure that will now change overnight) relating to the legal size and shape of such bags the local Security will STILL turn you away?

MAN have got to be very stupid to push ahead with this one! It is only a matter of time (one thinks of the schools easter hols coming up, for example) before they pee off so many people that the national press gets hold of this. I can just imagine the Sun newspaper headlines now!

What an incredibly stupid thing to do at a time when all airports ought to be bending over backwards to help their airlines RETAIN passenger custom. This will simply play right into the hands of LPL.

Might not appear a big deal to the MAN airport management but then, as they say, the Devil is in the detail...

GavinC 10th Mar 2009 19:18

I think the regulations / guidelines refer to a size for the bag. About A5 size if i remember rightly as well as that it has to be re-sealable.

mickyman 10th Mar 2009 19:23

Globetrotter79

Does that mean that you and all the other
Sun readers will bugger off to Liverpool then ?

MM












Still thinking about that one.......................


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