PPRuNe Forums

PPRuNe Forums (https://www.pprune.org/)
-   Airlines, Airports & Routes (https://www.pprune.org/airlines-airports-routes-85/)
-   -   Bmibaby (https://www.pprune.org/airlines-airports-routes/330435-bmibaby.html)

ZeBedie 2nd Feb 2012 20:21

Is Stelios Greek then?

Charley B 2nd Feb 2012 20:27

He may be Greek but his Fastjet company could be registered in the uk????
Lots of UK reg co's have foreign owners:)

Montezuma 2nd Feb 2012 21:34

I reiterate, £5K per jet per day is a lot of turn round.

longarm 2nd Feb 2012 21:52

He's not Greek. I think he holds dual British/Cypriot nationality. But definitely not Greek. Hence 'Sir' Stelios.

VIKING9 3rd Feb 2012 08:08

Leeds based loco with 757's and 737's to buy Baby.

The coat is on, the door is open.....:O

RHINO 3rd Feb 2012 08:13

Stobart for me......

Charley B 3rd Feb 2012 08:16

Stobart would be good-they way they run their businesses put lots of others to shame-- the uk need more competent businesses like that:)

JSCL 3rd Feb 2012 08:21

But to be honest, Stobarts doesn't have the cash to throw in to Baby that it desperately needs.

Southend is only getting all this development done through some serious external finance. (£108m of it to be precise). They don't have good cash to be throwing after bad.

Sorry but for me, it isn't Stobarts.

Hipennine 3rd Feb 2012 08:47

Invest mega heavily in Southend, entice Easyjet to come in there, then buy a direct competitor ? Not a sensible business strategy.

SR71 3rd Feb 2012 08:50

So, frankly, nobody has a clue!

:E

ETOPS 3rd Feb 2012 08:52

Specially for Flying Wild


Update from Wolfgang Prock-Schauer regarding bmibaby

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Dear colleagues,

As you are aware we have been talking to various parties regarding the sale of bmibaby. We have now signed a term sheet for the sale of bmibaby to a UK based company. Below is the press release that will be distributed today. As the release states, the term sheet is non-exclusive and enables us to continue discussions with other interested parties. We are confident that this is a positive step towards finding a good future for bmibaby.

Regarding bmi Regional, as previously communicated, the sale is subject to certain pre-conditions being fulfilled. As soon as more information is available we will provide you with an update.

The process of the proposed sale of British Midland Ltd to IAG continues as outlined in my previous communication. There is no further update at this time but please be assured that we are giving you as much information as we can and we will continue to keep you updated.

With best regards,

Wolfgang Prock-Schauer


handsfree 3rd Feb 2012 09:17

In today's Leicester Mercury

bmibaby airline, Castle Donington, airport, leicestershire | This is Leicestershire


Low-cost airlines easyJet and Flybe have declined to rule themselves out as the mystery buyer of rival bmibaby.
It comes after another rival, Jet2, yesterday told the Leicester Mercury it had not bought the carrier from Castle Donington airline group BMI.
Many analysts had suggested the Leeds-based operator was the likely buyer after BMI announced on Wednesday it had completed a preliminary deal to sell its budget subsidiary to a UK business.
Luton-based Monarch has also denied being the buyer.
BMI will not name the buyer or provide any more details about the deal.
When asked yesterday if they had bought bmibaby, spokeswomen for both Luton-based easyJet and Exeter-based Flybe would neither confirm or deny the suggestion.

20feetretard 3rd Feb 2012 09:32

Dart Group were spoken to in December but it was not pursued by either party. Staff don't know much more than the interested parties DO have airline experience (but not sure if it was UK or not) and one in particular was emphatic that their identity was to remain obscured. To be clear I do not know who it is but I have a better idea who it isn't. New type rating is suggested as likely.

Flying Wild 3rd Feb 2012 10:24

ETOPS:

Thanks, had already seen that. What I was getting at in previous posts is that nobody has said they are actually buying baby yet. Either party could still part ways after the term sheet has been signed. Having signed the term sheet allows for due diligence to be conducted on baby's books.

sjm 3rd Feb 2012 13:28

Who cares who it is, one thing is for sure they can't be a bad as BMI's mis- management/lack of investment over the last 10 years or LH's complete lack of interest in Baby since they took over.:ugh:

The purchase of Baby is a good thing. If it doesn't last under new owners then it would have never lasted anyway under LH's rule. The future is bright if it all goes through for baby!:O

Put a months salary it wont be Jet2 though:}

Flightrider 3rd Feb 2012 13:37

It is most unlikely to be Jet2. If Lufthansa have made this announcement then Jet2 (well, Dart Group PLC) would at best be in breach of good practice and at worst potentially in breach of market regulations if it failed to make some corresponding statement of its own.

The clues are in the Lufthansa statement. It has not granted exclusivity to the bmibaby buyer which means either a) it's not happy with the deal or b) that it isn't confident that the buyer can actually complete, or c) both. Best guess is that if this is a UK organisation, it's the management team who haven't yet got funding to support their buyout.

Flying Wild 3rd Feb 2012 14:57

Or d) trying to minimise how much it needs to pay someone to take baby...

righthandrule 3rd Feb 2012 15:20

Well Jet2 have just announced they are to go self handling as East Midlands, something that is not sustainable with just three based aircraft. Who ever gets hold of bmi baby need to act quick as Jet2 have big plans for EMA and with 8 new aircraft coming into the fleet over the next 12 months, I'm sure this time next year there may be more red than baby blue at EMA. BabYy's about to loose it's core and vital market unless something is announced soon so the major turnaround can begin.

UPS@EMA 3rd Feb 2012 15:44


Well Jet2 have just announced they are to go self handling as East Midlands, something that is not sustainable with just three based aircraft. Who ever gets hold of bmi baby need to act quick as Jet2 have big plans for EMA and with 8 new aircraft coming into the fleet over the next 12 months, I'm sure this time next year there may be more red than baby blue at EMA. BabYy's about to loose it's core and vital market unless something is announced soon so the major turnaround can begin.
2 questions.

1)Where have you heard about Jet2 going self handling at EMA?
2)Where have you heard about big plans for EMA?

Im sure that there will be more red than baby blue at EMA due to baby scaling back, but I cant genuinely see big expansion anytime soon

redED 3rd Feb 2012 16:32


Why would Jet2 buy into something if they can simply watch the carnage unfold
They wouldn't have to if they were getting paid to take it alla flybe and bacon.


All times are GMT. The time now is 10:02.


Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.