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OltonPete 8th Jul 2008 18:33

Baby
 
Is this the final schedule for winter?

I have not gone through the schedule totally but BHX goes from 8 based
to five departures some mornings but seem to need six at night.

Also if fuel is the only problem why are they operating half empty 733's
to BFS and continuing with long flights (long for baby) to AGP, KRK
MJV and ALC with FR and ZB on some of these routes.

I suspected BHX would go down to 6 based but FCO, LIS & MAD
averaged over 100 per flight even in winter. I understand with
winter fares and the price of fuel that these flights would be under pressure (despite no competition) but I just find it difficult to believe
that Belfast, Malaga & Alicante yield more in the winter with the
amount of competition. I suppose saying that it could have been worse.

Pete

OliWW 8th Jul 2008 20:33

I was expecting either Ryanair to reduce or drop BHD and or bmibaby for BFS, but it seems the same as normally, 5 flights between them on a weekday, which seems very very odd... i dont think ive seen either of Ryanair's flights above 90pax onboard at one time

viscount702 8th Jul 2008 22:20

I don't think this is the full list. Depending on the where you look on the website there is different information.

In one part is says to look out for further flights

Viscount

Budfrey27 9th Jul 2008 07:53

.......i was waiting to board an EMA bound flight last year with FR from BHD and exactly 140 pax got off the flight from EMA (i counted them sadly)..that is the total allowed i believe!!!

Bud

OliWW 9th Jul 2008 08:48

Well last year there was only 1x Daily... where as from Feb 08 it was 2x Daily, so its like that number, divided between 2 flights, and thats what the pax has been like.

Budfrey27 9th Jul 2008 08:55

...until they start BHX-BHD i will use EMA regularly...i actually prefer FR as there are always quite a few spare seats!
Nowt like spreading out....
cheers
Bud

FlyboyUK 9th Jul 2008 09:20

I would suspect that the winter schedule hasn't been finalised yet as Olton Pete says.

It's normal for the likes of BOD to be summer only routes, but just because a route doesn't appear on the booking system at the moment, doesn't mean the route has been dropped.

There seems to be a lot of jumping to conclusions.

airhumberside 9th Jul 2008 09:56

baby website states 'all winter flights on sale'

bmia330 9th Jul 2008 10:16

Baby website also states 'There are loads more winter destinations to be released on sale soon, so keep your eyes peeled!'

EGAC_Ramper 9th Jul 2008 10:49

Fr Ema-bhd
 
Travel regularly back and forth every 2 weeks on the FR flight between EMA and BHD and certainly the evening flights I've been on have been operating with 120-140 pax on generally both ways, the early morning rotation not quite so. Now maybe not quite so busy but it keeps an a/c busy for 2hrs in the day that you could not fly to anywhere more lucrative in the time.


Regards

flowy50 9th Jul 2008 13:11

baby
 
egac_ramper why are you telling people about fr on the baby forum why dont you use fr forum please.:ugh:

CabinCrewe 9th Jul 2008 14:46

Flowy50
If you had read the other posts you will see why the FR flights were mentioned. It seems entirely reasonable given the topics being discussed including the loads etc on the Baby Belfast routes.

EGAC_Ramper 9th Jul 2008 14:54

Flowy50
 
As mentioned if you read earlier posts you would realise I was responding to the comments made.:ugh:


CabinCrewe cheers! :D


regards :ok:

INKJET 9th Jul 2008 16:39

Bmi could do far worse than put an ERJ on the EMA-BHD routes, whilst the fares would be far above Ryanairs it would take most of the last minute business traffic from Ryanair that want to go to the city rather than Aldergrove. Its good to see that baby aren't cutting and running on the BFS service, although they do need to get back on track with reliabilty issues at weekends.

CabinCrewe 9th Jul 2008 16:49

I always thought the GLA-NOC service was an odd choice for their first venture into ex-Scottish international ops. Looks like that nail has been hit on the head. It never worked with a 35 seater so why would it work with a 130 seater ?

mathers_wales_uk 10th Jul 2008 17:42

Whats up with Bmibaby today? I'm guessing they were very short of airframes as GTOYC positioned to EMA at midnight and a titan a/c was chartered in to operate the WW2643/4 CWL-ALC-CWL.

They must have serious problems for them having to lease the aircraft. I have noticed that there is a photo available of EI-CSU (GTOYL) all painted in BmiBaby colours in Budapest. When are they expecting delivery of this a/c as there was one due May 08 along with another GTOYI.


I have recentally heard that Virgin Nigeria's B733's are to be sold to bmibaby before the end of 2008. Ex easyjet aircraft..

Reg.

5N-VNC ex G-EZYN
5N-VND ex G-EZYM
5N-VNE ex G-EZYP
5N-VNF ex G-EZYR
5N-VNG ex G-EZYS
and also
UR-GAH of Ukraine Intl Airlines
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Does anybody have any further info on these and whether or not they are true?

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I am glad that BmiBaby has kept the WAW and the BCN at Cardiff, and in all very pleased with the winter schedule especially after previouse reports from a local paper.

I am however suprised that they have decided to increase the frequency of the BFS to x 2 daily, but hope that the gamble pays off for them and that both Flybe and WW can remain comfortably on the route.

I am intreagued by the statement by Crawford Rix which is on the CWL website

"bmibaby continue to be the only airline at Cardiff Airport pioneering truly low fares on domestic and European routes with flights starting from just £18.99 one way, including taxes and charges. We remain committed to developing and expanding our services at Cardiff International Airport and more news will be announced over the coming months as we put our growth plans into action".
I know that they can see Cardiff as a 4 aircraft base but how soon are they planning on this to happen?

jerboy 10th Jul 2008 18:20


I have noticed that there is a photo available of EI-CSU (GTOYL) all painted in BmiBaby colours in Budapest. When are they expecting delivery of this a/c as there was one due May 08 along with another GTOYI.
The last I heard was that baby were no longer acquiring these two a/c... seems weird that at least one is painted in baby colours though.

Don't shoot the messenger! Its what I've heard so may or may not be true!

They certainly have been short of a/c recently, been a nightmare down in JER with BHX flights operating to EMA and vice versa (pissing off the pax no end!). Also had Titan G-POWC operating for us the other day.

mathers_wales_uk 10th Jul 2008 20:05

JetPhotos.Net Photo » EI-CSU (CN: 27626) bmibaby Boeing 737-36E by Atika

Her is the link of the photo which was taken end of may, any news on delivery of new a/c?

OliWW 10th Jul 2008 20:25

I heard that its still in Budapest, and is still having work done to it, but this guy told me it was coming to the UK on the 29th July...

FlyboyUK 10th Jul 2008 20:26

Interesting to see a subtle change in the livery with "Tiny" being drawn slightly differently on YL


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