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Paul Atkins144 14th Feb 2020 10:37

Flight schedule at the moment on our system is Tui 737x3,Fr 737x8 ,with Albastar visiting Tuesday pm and Wednesday pm ,Freebird showing Tuesday am and Friday am,Air europa showing Friday am ,Balkan showing Thursday am short season this year july-sep and Sunday am
We don't handle Jet2 last year it was 737x8 not shaw if its all 800's this year

EastMids 14th Feb 2020 10:55

Loganair not launching Aberdeen-East Midlands later this month as was planned, due to lower than expected demand. Route deferred indefinitely.

FlyboyUK 14th Feb 2020 12:13


Originally Posted by Arkroyal (Post 10686245)
I was chatting to a couple of mates in a pub and was shot down by them when I recalled EMA having Cat III approaches at both ends before the runway lengthening in 2000.

Am I imagining it? I’m sure I remember a Cat III approach to 09 in a F100 in 1999.

Im with you on this one, I’m 99% sure EMA was CATIII on 09 until they extended the runway.

Yellow Sun 14th Feb 2020 13:16


Originally Posted by Arkroyal (Post 10686906)
Rats! I’ve just lost a bet!
I was quite certain I’d done a cat 3 to 09 before the runway extension 20 years ago!

Better go and sit in a darkened room. 😂

That's the problem with Fish Heads they think anything can be solved by turning the boat round!! Sorry, but 09 was only Cat 1 and I've just checked it in a 2005 Aerad that I happen to have.

YS
Your friendly Crab

craigyton2 14th Feb 2020 14:19


Originally Posted by Paul Atkins144 (Post 10687381)
Flight schedule at the moment on our system is Tui 737x3,Fr 737x8 ,with Albastar visiting Tuesday pm and Wednesday pm ,Freebird showing Tuesday am and Friday am,Air europa showing Friday am ,Balkan showing Thursday am short season this year july-sep and Sunday am
We don't handle Jet2 last year it was 737x8 not shaw if its all 800's this year



Thanks for that Paul. Do you know what routes the Albastars are operating? Thank you

craigyton2 6th Mar 2020 08:37

After loosing BHD and AMS services due to Flybe's unfortunate demise. Do we think anyone will take these routes on? Especially the Belfast route as this was once 5x daily , and recently atleast 3 daily. Maybe easyJet from BFS? KLM for the AMS . Any thoughts ?

golfbananajam 6th Mar 2020 09:49

I would be surprised if KLM took the AMS route as they already fly to AMS from BHX.

craigyton2 6th Mar 2020 09:56


Originally Posted by golfbananajam (Post 10704604)
I would be surprised if KLM took the AMS route as they already fly to AMS from BHX.

Yes that's very true. But they do fly to a few UK airports that are around the same distance away.

EastMids 6th Mar 2020 10:03


Originally Posted by craigyton2 (Post 10704549)
After loosing BHD and AMS services due to Flybe's unfortunate demise. Do we think anyone will take these routes on? Especially the Belfast route as this was once 5x daily , and recently atleast 3 daily. Maybe easyJet from BFS? KLM for the AMS . Any thoughts ?

It would be nice to think easyJet might try twice daily Belfast, but it would likely be BFS not BHD, and the carrier might opt to try to develop BHX further rather than move into another UK airport. I suspect KLM will focus on BHX and not rush into EMA. With BRU already stopped, AMS was EMA's last real connection to a major hub leaving it now with only low-cost routes, charters and the few Loganair domestic services plus Auriigny. It will be interested to see whether EMA gets anything to/from JER this summer (remember the glory days when there were sometimes seven departures on a Saturday). Sad to see routes that have been at EMA almost since day one go, but recent years have shown that frequent scheduled services aimed at the business market are nolonger EMA's forte.

craigyton2 6th Mar 2020 10:07


Originally Posted by EastMids (Post 10704621)
It would be nice to think easyJet might try twice daily Belfast, but it would likely be BFS not BHD, and the carrier might opt to try to develop BHX further rather than move into another UK airport. I suspect KLM will focus on BHX and not rush into EMA. With BRU already stopped, AMS was EMA's last real connection to a major hub leaving it now with only low-cost routes, charters and the few Loganair domestic services plus Auriigny. It will be interested to see whether EMA gets anything to/from JER this summer (remember the glory days when there were sometimes seven departures on a Saturday). Sad to see routes that have been at EMA almost since day one go, but recent years have shown that frequent scheduled services aimed at the business market are nolonger EMA's forte.


I completely agree with you on that. It would be nice to see easyJet try the Belfast sector , but I agree it would be Aldergrove if they did and they may decide to concentrate on Birmingham as they already have a operation from there . It is a sad sight to see, so many businesses destinations offered over the years with high frequencies to CDG, AMS and many others , but they all have disappeared. I'm confident the Jersey will continue though , Blue Island have said they will continue to operate the service in there own entity 1x daily.

Paul Atkins144 6th Mar 2020 14:07

Thanks for that Paul. Do you know what routes the Albastars are operating? Thank yo

Hi mate yes they are all operating for Tui with the exception of Balkan,back at work on Monday will try and find out the latest gossip on the lost routes

valefan16 6th Mar 2020 15:43


Originally Posted by craigyton2 (Post 10704626)
I completely agree with you on that. It would be nice to see easyJet try the Belfast sector , but I agree it would be Aldergrove if they did and they may decide to concentrate on Birmingham as they already have a operation from there . It is a sad sight to see, so many businesses destinations offered over the years with high frequencies to CDG, AMS and many others , but they all have disappeared. I'm confident the Jersey will continue though , Blue Island have said they will continue to operate the service in there own entity 1x daily.

Loganair might try the Belfast routes? Guess at the moment its wait and see as they are having to expand quickly into routes that have only become available to them (wonder if they will go for a few flybe Dash-8's to pick up more of whats left like they did with bmi's jets)

AMS looks gone for good sadly, same as with CDG and BRU that haven't been picked up (surprised FR dont look at EMA - Charleroi mind for Brussells) would love to see KLM come in as they do a lot of smaller airports such as Norwich but seems unlikely and to make it work ideally you want a morning and evening rotation rather than one flight in mid afternoon!


simoncorbett 6th Mar 2020 16:22

EMA Loganair
 
I can’t see Loganair going for Dash 8’s as they are already getting a few ATR’s & won’t want to have even more variety of makes

egnxema 16th Mar 2020 21:16

To what extent has the current Coronavirus situation impacted the cargo airlines at EMA? Do all the rounds of travel restrictions across borders make it impossible for crew to operate cargo routes?

craigyton2 17th Mar 2020 18:08


Originally Posted by egnxema (Post 10716484)
To what extent has the current Coronavirus situation impacted the cargo airlines at EMA? Do all the rounds of travel restrictions across borders make it impossible for crew to operate cargo routes?

Going on when I was at work last night , the cargo side looks to be busier than usual to be honest! 2 x DHL CVG's in tonight too , one A332 and a 763. The cargo is one saving grace for EMA.

Mr Angry from Purley 17th Mar 2020 19:17


Originally Posted by egnxema (Post 10716484)
To what extent has the current Coronavirus situation impacted the cargo airlines at EMA? Do all the rounds of travel restrictions across borders make it impossible for crew to operate cargo routes?

Its extremely busy, remember the passenger airlines carry a lot of belly freight so demand is up. BUT it could turn just like that. The countries are restricting and closing borders, Hotels are closing, flights that normally stop in Italy don't anymore. Every day every hour a new challenge comes. Crews end up being isolated, choices will have to be made soon is it the package or the pilot.

Balair 26th Mar 2020 15:46

FedEx

As with previous BHX night closures FedEx are currently routing the FDX 5204 CDG-BHX-MAN through EMA.

In addition, the usual day stopping FDX 6203/4 has operated t/f SNN as FDX 9075/6 for the last couple of days. I presume this is only on a temporary basis? Perhaps someone could enlighten us?

Balair


craigyton2 1st Apr 2020 13:22

Cargo increase
 
https://mediacentre.eastmidlandsairp...edented-times/

Press release from the airport.

ATNotts 1st Apr 2020 13:44


Originally Posted by craigyton2 (Post 10735617)

Good news, but a shame that it has taken the virtual suspension of all passenger flying to have the PR department trumpeting the principal business of the airport. They don't mention how the volume of cargo has changed. I imagine it has increased in percentage terms rather faster than the movements.

How are DHL, UPS and their like managing social distancing within their facilities on airport?

Flightmech 1st Apr 2020 13:44


Originally Posted by Balair (Post 10728975)
FedEx

As with previous BHX night closures FedEx are currently routing the FDX 5204 CDG-BHX-MAN through EMA.

In addition, the usual day stopping FDX 6203/4 has operated t/f SNN as FDX 9075/6 for the last couple of days. I presume this is only on a temporary basis? Perhaps someone could enlighten us?

Balair

SNN was for maintenance reasons with Lufthansa. FedEx use them for base maintenance on the Europe captive 757 fleet.

Balair 1st Apr 2020 14:00

[QUOTE=Flightmech;10735641]SNN was for maintenance reasons with Lufthansa. FedEx use them for base maintenance on the Europe captive 757 fleet.

Thanks for the clarification Flightmech.

Also, from what I can see, FDX 5204 is no longer operating through EMA.

Balair

mmeteesside 1st Apr 2020 14:05

[QUOTE=Balair;10735664]

Originally Posted by Flightmech (Post 10735641)
SNN was for maintenance reasons with Lufthansa. FedEx use them for base maintenance on the Europe captive 757 fleet.

Thanks for the clarification Flightmech.

Also, from what I can see, FDX 5204 is no longer operating through EMA.

Balair

None of the CDG European network has run this week, don't know why.

Flightmech 1st Apr 2020 14:12

[QUOTE=mmeteesside;10735668]

Originally Posted by Balair (Post 10735664)

None of the CDG European network has run this week, don't know why.

The CDG network is running on the IP cycle only. No second EU1 sort. Hence why airplanes from the field stations are heading into CDG in the afternoon vs late evening. A few are not operating (MAN 5203/5204 as previously mentioned) as freight is moving by road to STN.

mmeteesside 1st Apr 2020 14:44

[QUOTE=Flightmech;10735675]

Originally Posted by mmeteesside (Post 10735668)

The CDG network is running on the IP cycle only. No second EU1 sort. Hence why airplanes from the field stations are heading into CDG in the afternoon vs late evening. A few are not operating (MAN 5203/5204 as previously mentioned) as freight is moving by road to STN.

Ah right thanks that makes sense, I assume that's purely down to low volume due to business shut down across Europe? Interesting that LGG appears to be running as normal, assume most of it can e rerouted through there for stations that have a link there. Off topic for EMA I know but it made me wonder when none of the feeders appeared to be running.

Flightmech 1st Apr 2020 15:21

[QUOTE=mmeteesside;10735709]

Originally Posted by Flightmech (Post 10735675)
Ah right thanks that makes sense, I assume that's purely down to low volume due to business shut down across Europe? Interesting that LGG appears to be running as normal, assume most of it can e rerouted through there for stations that have a link there. Off topic for EMA I know but it made me wonder when none of the feeders appeared to be running.

Not a volume problem at all. Staffing in the hub sort due COVID-19 related absences. I heard the Feeders are not running as you cannot maintain social-distancing when having multiple load-personnel in a small confined fuselage.

craigyton2 1st Apr 2020 18:17

A couple of interesting movements noted in the last week.
G-POWD B763 of Titan operated two Military charters in last week from Calgary. With a RAF Voyager operating another charter from Belize​​​.
VP-BCR B744 of Silk Way West Airways operated Inbound and Outbound to Baku.
G-TUIN B789 of TUI operated a repatriation flight from MMMD to EMA today.

​​​​​​Also some of the new 80 stands are now open on the new UPS extension of the east apron.

I'm not sure why the Silk Way came in? Formula 1? Or Aid flight?

NutLoose 14th Apr 2020 01:32

East Midlands now rated as a premier league airport due to cuts elsewhere due to the virus.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/lifestyle/...ubAT?ocid=iehp

Crusher1 15th Jun 2020 19:13

It does appear that freight wise things are going well. I have heard that DHL are to operate a weekly Hong Kong service using a 747 and also adding a Los Angeles route

valefan16 15th Jun 2020 19:49


Originally Posted by Crusher1 (Post 10811775)
It does appear that freight wise things are going well. I have heard that DHL are to operate a weekly Hong Kong service using a 747 and also adding a Los Angeles route

Saw her depart yesterday and land the week before, pulled in the crowds that one has. What’s operating the LA?

Crusher1 15th Jun 2020 22:42


Originally Posted by valefan16 (Post 10811790)
Saw her depart yesterday and land the week before, pulled in the crowds that one has. What’s operating the LA?

Not sure on what aircraft are to be used,, not in the loop quite so much these days, but JFK and Miami routes also mentioned. As I write this the HK flight has just been mentioned on BBC news!


LBIA 16th Jun 2020 12:25

https://www.air101.co.uk/2020/06/eas...r101+(Air+101)

Balair 21st Jun 2020 11:45

QUOTE “Not sure on what aircraft are to be used, but JFK and Miami routes also mentioned”

This morning’s flights were operated by the following:

CVG - ABX B763
LAX - BOX B77L
MIA - AJT B763
JFK - DHK B763

Balair

BHX5DME 22nd Jun 2020 13:02

MAG Group - May 2020
 
Pax

Stansted – 20,607 down 99.2%

Manchester – 18,750 down 99.3%

East Mids – zero

Cargo

East Mids – 30,547 down 0.7%

Stansted – 21,210 up 14.1%

Manchester 1,342 down 85.9%

Traffic figures at all MAG airports were severely impacted by the outbreak of Covid-19 in May, as travel restrictions and a dramatic reduction in demand for flights impacted the Group’s passenger numbers. MAG’s reduction was reflective of world trends, with global travel demand reduced by 97% compared to previous year, according to UK Government data.

All MAG airports saw passenger figures reduce by at least 99.3% year-on-year in May, with MAG’s three airports serving 39,357 passengers between them, compared with 5.7 million last May.

At London Stansted Airport and East Midlands Airports, cargo figures held up well (STN: +14.1%, EMA: -0.7%) as key freight operators used the airports to keep essential goods flowing into the country and providing UK firms with a key route to export.

East Midlands Airport was one of the most resilient European airports by flight numbers in May, as its important role as the UK’s biggest airport for cargo aircraft continued.




Balair 8th Jul 2020 14:41

DHL

DHL’s expansion of their EMA hub continues.

Chicago has now been added to their schedule, becoming the 5th USA destination served by them from East Midlands.

The flights are currently operated by ABX 767’s and route ORD-EMA-CGN-EMA-ORD ABX 683/4


BHX5DME 16th Jul 2020 16:32

June Pax

Stansted – 59,176 down 97.8%

Manchester – 40,280 down 98.6%

East Midlands – 1,263 down 99.8%

12m end 30.06.20 Pax

Manchester – 20,330,678 down 29.9%

Stansted – 19,358,550 down 32.1%

East Midlands – 3,055,718 down 36.4%

Cargo

East Midlands – 33,124 up 10.9%

Stansted – 23,080 up 11.9%

Manchester – 1,860 down 80.3%

Source
https://mediacentre.magairports.com/...ic-statistics/

egnxema 19th Jul 2020 06:55

Does the AirBridgeCargo 747 operate weekly? Could anyone share the schedule? Thanks

BHX5DME 19th Jul 2020 10:17


Originally Posted by egnxema (Post 10840971)
Does the AirBridgeCargo 747 operate weekly? Could anyone share the schedule? Thanks

Yes weekly due 13501350 - ABW - VQ-BQZ



egnxema 23rd Jul 2020 21:37

Stobart Air, using the Aer Lingus Regional brand to start EMA-BHD from 01OCT. Up to 3x daily. Flights sold via the main Aer Lingus website.

EGNXROB 28th Jul 2020 22:50

Worth to note Kalitta Air have today started

Tue/Wed Brussels - East Midlands - Cincinnati
Thurs - Leipzig - East Midlands - Cincinnati
Using a 747-400F

Also Aerologic have been operating Mon/Wed

Leipzig - East Midlands - Cincinnati using a 777F

BHX5DME 14th Aug 2020 16:11

Pax – July 2020

STN – 468,318 down 83.0%

MAN – 332,421 down 89.5%

EMA – 79,235 down 86.1%

Pax – 12m ending 31.07.20

MAN – 17,485,972 down 40.0%

STN – 17,067,646 down 40.1%

EMA – 2,565,540 down 46.5%

Cargo

EMA – 37,626 up 21.2%

STN – 25,312 up 43.6%

MAN – 2,863 down 73.5%


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