Cannot see BHX ever playing a role for BACON, GB or BA, the glory days have been and gone, the greater likelyhood is BA will dissapear from Brum altogether.

thomsonfly

i believe (and i'm sure someone will dutifully correct me) that GB have 4 x A321's on order, the first of which is G TTIE and arriving very very soon, but i think will be replacing A320 G TTOA.

Where do GB expand to next - that's a very good question, and perhaps this'll become clearer now the ex-TUI/Brittania boss is in place as GB Managing Director.

I'm sure that any expansion will have to be on the longer side rather than staying in the 1 - 3hr sector area around europe where Easy and Ryan will strongly dominate once all of their firm orders for 100's of aircraft arrive.

GB have been slowly pulling of these LoCo routes..... the next of which will be the removal of Valencia this month i think.

Interesting times ahead methinks

happy flying

BPM

According to Flight a couple of weeks ago, there are 6 x A321's on order, and 1 x A320... though it was previously talked about that these were replacements for existing aircraft, and not necessarily additional ones.

There's at least 1 extra aircraft arriving, or at least that's they were saying when they were doing recruitment for extra cabin crew needed to get the thing off the ground

But don't forget the possibility to drop those poor performing routes.....Less routes = less planes :ugh:

Next = CREW CALL :mad: :mad: :mad:

GB Airways to operate as BA Connect from Manchester Airport
 

Just noticed this off another website. Looks to me like BA are running a trial using to GB. If Successful my bet's on LGW going BA Connect. Why did BA sell Go again? :rolleyes:
http://www.gbairways.com/baconnect/summary/

Old news I'm afraid.

The final paragraph reads

Please note that BA Connect services from London Heathrow and London Gatwick will continue to offer complimentary food and a Club Europe cabin on our European network.

So will LHR and LGW become BACON bases or not ? This would mean that the airline finally begins to connect with the rest of the BA network although I think the full portfolio of domestic routes is a little too much to hope for but we can all dream.

Will ID90 tickets still be valid on BA Connect ?

Please spare me the predictable replies pointing out that at such bargain prices, ID90s are redundant.

yes ID90s can still be used with BACON

Has BA regional (Now Bacon) always been purchase on board food i.e last few years???? or did it come in with Bacon????? I am booked BA from BHX to MAD and when i booked my flights BACON wasnt in the frame.

Anything????

Buy on board came about with BA Connect

Stand by for BA Connect to take over the world! :}

skiddy

Surely it won't be too long before GB introduce scheduled services on their Frogbusses to destinations terribly familiar to Bacon (and incidentally ex-BAR) personnel!

GB are of course a pretty slick operation, with new aircraft, and high customer satisfaction ratings. I can also easily imagine they have a cost base at least as low as Bacon!

What goes around, comes around I guess.

I suspect the only thing to save their Bacon will be BA's scope agreement. Oh the beautiful irony!!

Skiddy, you have been downing those funny wee whisky things again haven't you??
Get the BACON baps in for the troops on Friday and i'll make up something that we are getting A318's to replace the RJ's!

GB Air Airbus OF
 

Is this aircraft jinxed (some of you must be in the know) or is it just my bad luck? Twice in the last month been travelling on this machine and last Sunday saw me (and a full load of pax) sitting on board at LGW after push back for a lovely 2 hours while they sorted out computer problems - indeed a change of some sort of computer. We were towed back onto stand - No 1 shut down - started up again - shut down - APU switched off - started up again - and while kept informed on proceedings and despite being (eventually) back on gate not offered a disembark into gate seating area. Another eventful trip down to GIB with GB Airways - (and no spare sandwiches!!!!) Ooops.


Nivsy

This refers more to the product than the airline in this respect. One reads this as all the GB stuff ex MAN will be BA Connect. Mr Evans always said that if anyone else wanted to come into the arena it would have to be called BA Connect. It would seem stupid to offer 2 different products out of the one ''base''. I expect the shuttle services will be next, pending approval from the unions although these are London bases. Nothing like progress!!

Have you forgotten the BACON operation out of EDI?

Not to mention other destinations. Harmonisation of the product is, I would humbly suggest, not a very convincing justification!

Tandemrotor.... no I haven't forgotten. EDI is a BACON base and yes we do offer 2 different products, but EDI-LCY is a prime business route. The GB airways routes are primarily for the bucket and spade brigade. I would question the future products offered by some of the other franchise carriers like Loganair and Sun-Air, but it is early days and the signs are very positive. One of the main benefits of the ''buy on board'' service is the dramatic cut in wastage and costs to the airline, while still giving the majority of customers what they want. I would imagine that as the GB routes are longer than any of BACON's then the savings would be a lot greater, and people will buy more the longer the sector becomes.

Plans afoot to lease out two A320s for the coming winter - being advertised in Airfax today.

Also understand that flying from two new UK regional airports is in the pipeline down to Tenerife.

Ah, now for the 'expansion' of the BACON brand!

Next,
Paphos

Interesting to see a BA franchise moving the goalposts into typical charter/low-cost territory...

Cheers :cool:

They are going LO-CO under the BA CONNECT brand.

I know that. But you aren't taking it at face value, are you? ;)

Cheers :cool:

FougaMagister

What you believe them going to BA connect is all a ploy and they are really a full fair airline still :\

you need to get out more...

Arrecife, Gran Canaria, Marrakesh, Malaga and Malta all dropped from MAN next winter, TFS and PFO continue. Flights starting from EMA and BRS.

Are they keeping theier base at MAN for two routes?

Ive read on another forum that GB will leave Seville and suspend Nantes for the winter. The low cost airlines seem to be affecting GB a lot at the moment

Hence the "cant beat em -join em" routine. You can hardly go wrong with TFS and PFO

That's a long day for crew MAN - BRS - TFS - BRS - MAN, there must be a stop, some were along the line.

Yes, apparently crews will be nightstopping in TFS.

So is it only MAN crews who will be operating the EMA and BRS flights or will us LGW guys be doing them too? I guess it would mean having to train for BA Connect onboard service down here.

I've heard there,s a nite stop in TFS , will this not cost money.

Railgun - my point is that there is more to going low-cost than merely lowering fares, flying with minimum crew and providing all snacks/drinks for sale. Any airline can lower its fares (at least in the short term), but actually lowering operating costs (and keeping them low) takes a lot more effort. The low-cost model works provided it is not tampered with; in other words, it is not a very flexible business model if it is to be successful.

That said, GB are probably better placed than BA Connect to pratice low cost; one thing going for them is that their fleet is better adapted - but flying longer sectors like TFS (meaning they won't be able to use their aircraft on 4 to 6 sectors each day like LCCs do) and having crew nightstop downroute may well make their fares higher than the competition. Good luck to them though.

Cheers :cool:

GB News
 

I've just heard GB to fly BRS - TFS & EMA - TFS 3 times a week in the winter.:ok:

Plus they're MAN product will fall in line with BA connect:confused:

Yep BA Connect product on all GB Airways services excluding London. Flights will be marketed as BA Connect ''operated by GB Airways'' - Just goes to show that there's faith in the new product and gives BA Connect some strength..... Check out the GB Airways website. (news services to TFS from EMA/BRS as well) Also see BRS and EMA threads.

Are the flights being operated by MAN or LGW crews?