Smythy034
 

You would get a better response from your post if it were in Rumour's & News.


I was chatting to one of the affected cabin crews recently and she was in a bad way. This problem has been going on for far Toooo Long.

It has also become apparent that the crews are now "encouraged" to only contact the Fleet Technical officer instead of filing an ASR/MOR.
For the record, ALL Contaminated Air events are considered an MOR same applies if you use Oxygen for any reason.

There has been a significant increase in Fume Events both on the BAe146 at Flybe and Boeing 757 at DHL over the last couple of years. If it is not addressed correctly and with a matter of urgency, then it is only a matter of time before the Luck runs out.

Helios anyone? I believe that BALPA had discovered that the 737 had a history of recent contaminated air events, including the flights immediately prior to the crash.

KEstrel_909

As far as I know the problems were with brake cooling after landing at higher weights, and not having sufficient time to cool during the quick turnaround before taking off again at a high weight, hence the restriction of 120 or 150 or other pax. Not sure if it still is in place. I also believe the fleet is a mix of 24k and 26k engines, power isn't really a problem.
Maybe someone with more knowledge about FR could tell us.


All Ryanair B738's are 26k rated, then have fixed de-rates to 24K and 22K with the further option of reducing using the assumed temperature technique. As mentioned power is not a problem for Derry and indeed weights are restricted with a max of 141 pax inbound which still applies.

I for one would welcome FR at BHD as I could get home easier from EMA!!:ok::D

Are BE losing the plot at BHD the 0705, 1250, 1435 departures to BHX are scheduled for 1500, this is a key business route heads should roll as this has been going on for months, (is that 3 aircraft at 15.00 or one as folk are catching the Ferry to Liverpool as it will get them there quicker) also 11.10 GLA delayed to 16.50, I think the southampton and Leeds/Bradford were also cancelled, delays at BHD-LGW also. Of course maybe there is bad weather at BHX or something I am not aware of.

The Birmingham 401 was delayed. 146 broke down. G-JECF had the passengers on board by 1100 or so and taxied out. Came back onto stand 5 mins later due to technical fault. Thats all I know on that.

Leeds 729 was cancelled as they were down an aircraft (which was in BFS due to late arrival last night).

At the moment, there are 3 aircraft nackered at BHD. G-JECM (Old Apron) G-JEBD (Stand 2) and G-JECF (Stand 9). Turning into a scrap yard, and yet Flybe are saying that they are improving:rolleyes:

Mind you the Cancun MYT flight at BFS has been 'indefinitely delayed', also I noticed a flight by Austrian Air to Vienna this afternoon is this a one off.

EGAC Ramper
 

It is very good that you know that abt FR 738 a/c. But can you explain why planes cant be turned round in time at EGAC??????

Does anyone know why Emirates schedule, has BHD in it?

Could it be a sign of a new route (This is how NCL was first realesed, prior, to the official announcments) However, the route obviously couldnt do it direct, so where could the stop be? The actual schedules havent been put in yet though.

http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/upl...6794653f9d.jpg

wouldn't fancy landing a 777 into BHD! Most probally code share via lhr.

Does anyone know why Emirates schedule, has BHD in it?

EDI,MME,LBA,DUB are also shown likewise in the schedule, and I think BD operate to all these airports, mind you I thought Aberdeen would have been there as well

airbus-commander
 

No I cannot as I haven't worked there since February 2005!! :}:ok:

I have since moved onwards and upwards.....

Was speaking to BIAL staff the other day, who said that the airport management is drawing up plans to extend the check-in hall/baggage bag/apron area.

Apprantly Aer Lingus management stated that if they were to come to BFS they would expect the terminal to be extended in particular the check-in hall. I believe the airport have approached the car hire companies who have offices beside the check-in hall to move so the hall can be extended.

Its just a tie up with flights onwards from LHR, but they arnt star alliance

rgds

K.I.L.

Just as a matter of interest does any one know the normal routing of zoom flights BFS/Vancouver. Reason being I was picking up yesterday and at 1400 zoom 767 took right turn off 25 climbing at fast rate then right again, so she was now heading north east which I thought was unusual, basically she would have been following the routing to GLA. I thought the routing would have been NW over or near the N.P.

Also what are Farrans constructing at the East end of Terminal.

Sorry for asking this question but here it goes: how many cabin crew are there on the bhd-lcy route and who are crew?. Whats the service like i am considering travelling with them but is the extra cost worth it?

Crew on the Do328 is one cabin crew, which is the norm for Scot Airways on their other scheduled services.

Catering is Air France standard, namely free bar, hot beverages, and some minor nibbles. The whole lot looks French-sourced. I am afraid though that the Scot Airways traditions like the shortbread and the tablet are locked away while the aircraft is operating the codeshare flights.

The cabin crew, in typical Scot fashion, will keep going for much of the flight in a very professional manner and be up and down several times with the cart, second round of the coffee, etc. Is this the only free in-flight catering between Belfast and London nowadays ?

Anyone heard about the rumours that BHD-STN by Air Berlin might face the chop because of the increased BAA charges at STN ? Apparently all domestic services by Air Berlin from STN under review.

I hope this does not happen. I was hoping that air berlin were going to introduce direct german flights from bhd like they do in manchester due to thier being a shortage of german routes from NI (except ezy to berlin). As most people do not like the time it takes to changing flights.

Read a rumour that BFS are still in talks with Ryanair. I think this would be the best option, by far, for Ryanair as they could actually set up a base and with their future long haul aspirations - perfect. How would this affect EI, LHR route would be okay, could a deal be struck between EI/BFS/FR on routes as NI is a small market. If say FR were to set up at BFS and say EI set up LHR service, the only risk would be Bmi baby going down the road, but then again MAN/BHX would then be snapped up by EI/LS. I think if FR/EI both came to BFS and routes didn't overlap to much the problem would be space. However work could start immediately on improvements to infrastructure (is that why Farrans are there)

The Ryans aren't starting at BFS any more than they are starting operations from the City. If baby were to move in response to the Aer Lingus decision to operate from BFS, what would flybe do, aren't they doing MAN, BHX and CWL in competition. If they were to move then Aer Lingus would have a field day and jump straight into the warm beds. In addition to the inevitable competition on the LHR, bmi, baby and mainline would have alot to think about. baby should stay put and at least it's only the LHR route that wiil suffer, but that is their own fault for overcharging and underserving, no late flight.

I hope ei do come to bfs but at the moment it seems bhx is their front runner, but belfast is still in the race, lets hope bfs wins!

ive heard that bfs is the favourite for the ei management.

can anyone tell me anything regarding the construction work at bfs? What's all happening? Are they rebuilding the viewing gallery our building a new lounge?

I don't think Ryanair will get into belfast at all, if they came into bhd I don't know how they'd cope in terms of space. If it somehow does go ahead then surely flybe will get the boot up the a*s they deserve.

If they came into bfs, baby would maybe pull ema or leave belfast altogether. In terms of space I can't see baby at bhd either, and then maybe the bmi group would realise why moving to bhd was a big mistake:ugh:.
That would leave Ryanair and easyjet sluggin' it out on the lpl and brs flights. Don't ask me who'd win that I don't know!

The rumour is a lounge for "business travellers"......so......EIN.....or Bmi?:E

BHDFLYER,
Re:"they came into bfs, baby would maybe pull ema or leave belfast altogether. In terms of space I can't see baby at bhd either, and then maybe the bmi group would realise why moving to bhd was a big mistake."

I dont think bmi think they made a mistake, the plans short term are to finish the 10 year deal made with BHD.

But that being said it doesn't stop them operating out of both!

After all they will need feeds for the Long haul out of LHR from March08!

rgds


Keepitlit

EI NEW BASE

but at the moment it seems bhx is their front runner

Everything I have read seems to suggest Belfast, is there a lot of talk in Birmingham media circles about EI setting up there. Even on the BHX thread there isn't alot said about it. What are all the pointers to BHX being the front runner.

EI - Birmingham Media Talk
 

gate 22

As a BHX local, virtually nothing in the local media at all.

Local rumours depend on who you believe, from "it is in the bag" to "maybe".

The major rumour locally is that 10-12 daily slots were filed for winter
2007/8 and the BHX-CORK from November on Tuesdays, Thursdays
and Saturdays was changed from a Cork based aircraft to a BHX
based aircraft. Mo,Wed, Fri & Sun is still a Cork based aircraft.

It was first thought it was going to be a Dublin based craft routing
through but the Dublin times remain the same all straight turnarounds.

As Tu, Th & Sat is new for Cork it is thought that if the base goes
ahead it will remain but if it does not it will be cancelled or revert to a Cork based aircraft (if possible).

It sounds as if EI have covered all bases with BHX.

My personal opinion is that BHX was a nailed on cert a couple of months
ago but not so sure now and unlike others I think today's Easyjet announcement will give EI something to think about.

EI might not worry about WW or BE but if Easy are testing the water
for an eventual base then it changes things completely.

Pete

Aer Lingus starts LGW-DUB
 

Aer Lingus has announced a new 4 x daily LGW-DUB service. Rumours on other forums suggest because of these new flights they could stop a couple of LHR-DUB flights and use the slots for a BFS-LHR service. It could happen, but any thoughts?

I'd agree with Pete that locally to BHX there hasn't been much said at all, but then there rarely is with BHX!

It seems to me that Aer Lingus have done their sums and are confident of making a Belfast or Birmingham base work, as such I guess it's now down to the respective airports to come up with the best package to entice them in.

The introduction of Ibiza is great news for the sun-seekers of Northern Ireland and is the second new route from Belfast in the last three months, which represents the potential for further development from the region

Above is a statement from Paul Cable at EZY recently, does anyone know what he means by 'further development from the region'. I suppose with talk of BE starting Brussels, Paris etc EZY need to get their house in order or the competition will snap up any potential in the near future. EZY seem very quiet at Belfast of late does this statement mean an announcement soon.

I see Flybe are back to their usual self:

Departures:

Rennes BE1853 13:30 Please wait in lounge\Estimating 18:45
Glasgow BE129 17:50 Please wait in lounge\Estimating 19:45
Manchester BE7025 18:30 Please wait in lounge\Estimating 19:00
Arrivals:

Newquay BE1762 17:15 Estimating 18:00
Rennes BE1854 17:35 DELAYED
London Gatwick BE970 17:50 Estimating 18:30

Also, not sure if anyone has seen the Saab 2000 sitting on the old Apron Yesterday and Today. Its for a charter to Ostend with Eastern Airways.

The Eastern Saab 2000 is carrying the Ghent football team back to Ostend tonight. Should be leaving around 19:00L.

BE1854 from Rennes now diverting to BFS. We still have a Dash8 sitting on Delta Apron from their last diverted flight from BHD. BFS must be having aleast 1 Flybe every night now.

Must be costing them loads:

Coach Transfers for PAX
Taxi Transfers for Crew
Landing fees
Out of Hours ground handling

Brgds

MAN flight also being diverted to BFS tonight.

All these diversions and the soon to be started Aer Lingus services, they must be laughing all the way to the banco.

'MAN flight also being diverted to BFS tonight'

Indeed it was. Mrs. Frequent Flyer and I were on board. The sequence of events was really unbelievable.
When we passed through security and entered the departure lounge at Terminal Three everything seemed A1 OK.
The monitors said the flight was departing at the scheduled time of 19.55 and this message continued until gate 50 was given as the departure gate around 19.30.
We moved the few yards to gate 50 where the monitor said BE7028 BELFAST CITY and waited......and waited.......and waited.
Around 19.50 we were told there would be a delay because the inbound crew were late but we should take off around 20.20.
We waited......and waited......and waited.
Some time later we were told boarding would commence 'as soon as possible' because there was now a catering problem of some kind.
We finally got on to the 146-300 just after 21.00.
We were sitting in row one and a cabin crew member said something to another which elicted the response: "Oh you're joking" or words to that effect.
The pilot, Captain Mitchell, then came on the intercom, welcomed us on board our flight to "eh...Belfast City", gave us the usual pleasantries, apologised for the delay and then said unfortunately there would be another short delay as Belfast City was refusing to accept us and would be landing at Aldergrove instead before being bussed down to BHD.
He also explained this was the first flight to be made by this particular 146-300 yesterday so he and the rest of the crew had been starting from scratch when they got on board which added to the delay.
This was not particularly well received by the passengers and one cabin crew member explained to my wife and me she was actually based in Inverness.
Yesterday morning she was called into work and operated a flight from Inverness to BHD.
She then went Belfast City to London Gatwick, Gatwick to Belfast City and Belfast City to Manchester.
Our flight was the return leg of this but for some inexplicable reason the flight crew had been required to leave the 146-300 they had operated from BHD and join the one we were now sitting on which was making its first flight of the day.
We took off just before 21.30 and made excellent time, landing at Aldergrove just after 22.00.
If we had been going to City as scheduled the arrival time would probably have been a couple of minutes earlier.
The frustrating this is a quick look at the flightstats website showed a bmi flight from Verona was allowed to land at BHD at 21.42pm last night.
According to this website the flight we were on BE7028 was allowed to land at BHD at 21.46 on July 13.
We didn't wait for the courtesy coach but took a taxi straight home from Aldergrove to our house in Ballyhackamore, five minutes from BHD.

Just, very reluctantly, booked FlyBe for connections to LGW for our trip to Orlando in October. Much have preferred to have gone with Easy, but sadly the times were just too tight...they really do need to up their game, and quickly.

On another topic, I'm wondering are EI going to do both BFS and BHX? Birmingham seems the more sensible new 'hub' for EI, with a much bigger catchment area (although more competition)...maybe they will come to BFS in a limited capacity, starting with LHR only?

Flybe disaster
 

I think flybe are trying to take on too much, especially since buying BA Connect. This is the busiest period of the year for all airlines, and flybe just don't seem to know how to get it right. Firstly, the shortage of crew was the result of former BA Connect crew leaving because quite frankly they'd had enough, and secondly the management's heads are so full of sh*t about "environmentally friendly aircraft", that they throw away lets be honest perfectly flyable, decent former BA Connect aircraft, only to find that the ones they ordered are delayed. And, despite them being delayed, they continue to ditch the former BA Connect aircraft, regret that, so they scrounge aircraft from other airlines like VLM.:ugh:One other thing I have to add is a mate of mine travelled GLA-BHD recently on flybe, flight delayed by hours, not even an announcement of the delay made, never mind it not being shown on the screen. Of course, an easyjet flight to BFS around the same time was delayed, the difference being there was an announcement made to the passengers, a reason for the delay (technical fault), updated screen, and an apology from the easyjet staff member to all the passengers.

Definition of all that can be described in 2 words - A MESS!

Lack of planes?
 

I was under the impression that the problem was lack of crew as opposed to aircraft. Indeed further Q400's have been delivered recently and the 4th E195 is now in the fleet.

The subbed in planes are down to crew shortages as opposed to machine shortages.

The varying BAcon fleet was blamed for them being unprofitable which is why Flybe are eager to get rid.

On the topic of flybe and the environment. The E145 is more friendly than the E195. Even they show this by their eco-labels. (Eco-labels, wonder how many aircraft were out of service per day to get that painted on :rolleyes:)

http://www.flybe.com/pdf/eco_labels_make_own.pdf

I flew Manchester to Belfast 9.50am flight last Sunday (8th July), after flying in from Orlando at 7am.

Check in was painless - told there were no delays and boarding would begin 9.20.
Waited in lounge - 9.20 came but still no gate # on screen and no announcements made.
10.05 - announced that there was an aircraft change - 1/2 hr delay expected.
10.35 - told to go to gate 153(I think) - taken by bus to remote stand, were a VLM aircraft awaited.
10.45 - boarded plane - stewardess told us captain wanted all passengers to move to back of plane???? don't know why this was.
11.00 - Captain announced that delay was due to bags & fuel etc. being loaded onto BAE146 at original gate - before to his surprise flybe decided to change aircraft - none of groundstaff seemed to know.
11.15 - still waiting for truck and bar to push back plane.
11.20 - Doors finally close and left engine starts, but right engine not moving. 5 mins later captain comes out of cockpit and tells us he cant start right engine! He looks quite embarrassed and says it's probably something simple.
We now wait for flybe engineer.
11.40 - Engineer arrives - lots of phone calls made - cant fix the problem so they announce Flybe has decided to cancel the flight.
12.00 - Taken back to terminal, and thankfully everyones (about 20 passengers) booked on 13.00 flight.

The 13.00 flight departed on time on another VLM aircraft.


This was the second time I've flown to Orlando either via Gatwick or Manchester with Flybe and Virgin and both times have have problems. Last December the flight BHD - LGW was delayed 2 hrs and we missed onward flight to MCO.

I'd prefer to fly easyjet but the earliest flight to LGW doesn't leave enough connected time whenever you have to collect and recheckin baggage.

We're going to Orlando again in November and will probably again have to use flybe. Just hope it's 3rd time lucky.

The wet lease aircraft are to cover the routes whilst the last of the ex-Bacon Dash 8 Q300 crews are retrained on to the Dash Q400. This process takes about 8 - 10 weeks.

There has been massive change for all at Flybe including major changes to ground handling etc. It is all taking some time to get fully on it's feet but it is getting better if more slowly than desired. Flybe would like it to work like a well oiled machine and are trying to put systems in place to improve things as soon as the need arises. There is no doubt it is having a detrimental effect on our passengers at the moment but we can only continue to appologise and carry on trying to fix it. The employees at Flybe know who pay their wages and we strive to give you what you expect. We know when it is not happening and you are right to complain.

You flying with easyJet does not pay my mortage and I know that only to well !