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dog in park 5th Jan 2011 18:04

road problems
 
i meant in general. a lot of farmers wont like it being told their fields are going!

Aaron9890 5th Jan 2011 21:11

Ryanair at BFS
 
Just saw that myself regarding Belfast. It says BHD so its not BFS I don't think they have taken BHD off the map yet. Route maps tend to get updated less. its not on the drop down menu so i seriously doubt it. I would like to see FR at BFS because their cheap flights would attract lots of passengers, unfortunately i think its very unlikely especially with EZY there and the Spanish management skills. i think that ryanair might expand at LDY.

Jamie2k9 5th Jan 2011 22:13

It was removed from the route map about 3 weeks after they finished at BHO. It wasn't on the map yesterday but it appeared this morning.

frequentflyer2 6th Jan 2011 00:17

There is NO justification for ID to be shown for an INTERNAL flight. It was introduced SOLELY for the LOCO's pricing policy. i.e. I buy a ticket at 1.99 and sell it on at a profit(albeit STILL cheaper than the current web fare).

You'd better explain that to the West Yorkshire Constabulary. When you land at LBA from either BFS or BHD you enter the terminal, there are two of those little podium style desks with a detective at each, you form a queue and shuffle through. They take everyone's photo ID, study it and give it back to them. I wouldn't like to try telling them I didn't have any ID on me. My mother lives outside Leeds and it's like that every time we go to visit her. It reminds me of the type of measures people from Belfast had to endure when travelling to GB airports during the 70's and 80's.

Aaron9890 6th Jan 2011 11:46

Jamie2k9, looked that up again today and its still on, maybe o'learly is changing his mind. Has he been given an update to the runway extension or something. when is the runway planned for extension

BFS101 6th Jan 2011 12:13

Lord above, and just when I thought Belfast had waved cheerio to Ryanair and relaxed a little, now rumours that they may return!!! Ahhhhhhh

Seriously though. BHD need to tread carefully I think. After the car park and access fiasco, collecting my friend at BHD last Monday, should FR re-enter the market, the new extended terminal may cope, but the road network and current set-down / pick-up facilities certainly cannot. BHD could easy become a victim of its own new-found success.

Gone are the days when BFS was the "big planes and International routes" with BHD being a little more sophisticated and business orientated; a more pleasant airport on the whole to use. With WW and possibly FR, BHD could become just another frantic, crowed and stressful airport to use. Please no!!

david1994 6th Jan 2011 12:16

EZY had the A320 in this morning arrived almost 2hrs late

eastern wiseguy 6th Jan 2011 13:09

Frequent Flyer. That is where the confusion arises. The ticketing issue does NOT require id except as I have detailed above.

A-Z of legislation: Prevention of Terrorism Act 2005 | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

This link is what the West Yorkshire police et al are concerned with.

I am afraid that anything else is a comparison of apples and oranges.:)

gate 22 6th Jan 2011 13:24


Book a cheap flight to Belfast and take in the Victorian architecture as you shop for fashion in the city centre. Slip into an entry (alleyway) pub for a pint of Guinness, then bar-hop through the Golden Mile area.

Ryanair’s low cost flights to Belfast’s George Best Belfast City Airport land 3km from the city centre on the shore of Belfast Lough. A 30-minute bus ride after your direct Belfast flight you can be enjoying a bowl of Irish stew in a snug in the Crown Liquor Saloon.

Although they say they fly to BHD at 3km from the city centre, I don't think the bus would take 30mins. I would say that its either BFS or more than likely Belfast being marketed as a destination from Londonderry. For Londonderry they just have to change the 'we fly to' line and maybe add 45mins onto the bus journey. If it were BHD where would they fly to? the runway is at least one year away. Also any additional flights are going to push the airport dangerously close to 48,000 flights per anum.

Jamie2k9 6th Jan 2011 14:41

BHO now removed from the map.

trolleydolly737 6th Jan 2011 19:46

FlyBE Evacuation
 
BBC reporting that a FlyBE a/c bound for BHX has been evacuated at BHD.

Aaron9890 6th Jan 2011 20:15

BBC News - Flybe plane evacuated at Belfast City Airport

dog in park 6th Jan 2011 22:59

which one will make more news?
 
ok bfs or bhd smoke in cabin. which one will demand enquies and calls for safety reviews and which one will get a few lines after a story about pregnant pandas!

ILS25 7th Jan 2011 15:14

I know its been kicked around here a few times but I heard from a pretty reliable source today that EZY will be moving it's Luton service back to BFS soon. I'm not saying it's true but has anyone else heard anything ?

gate 22 7th Jan 2011 15:19


I know its been kicked around here a few times but I heard from a pretty reliable source today that EZY will be moving it's Luton service back to BFS soon. I'm not saying it's true but has anyone else heard anything ?

Why wouldnt they?
The service has been cut down to 2 per day peak summer, obvousily the LTN aircraft is filling in for sun destinations from Ltn. So will they base an aircraft at BHD or simply move it back where it belongs to fill out the schedule.

mysecretsmile 7th Jan 2011 15:55

I think it is only a matter of time before LTN route is back at BFS - seemed a very odd to move it in the first place.

dog in park 7th Jan 2011 19:02

get in line!
 
maybe ltn will go back up the road bv then someother airline will fill it and ezy will have lost the foot in door!. bmi did well with it .ps was right about reporting of yesterday!

EI-BUD 7th Jan 2011 20:39


seemed a very odd to move it in the first place
hi 'mysecretsmile'

I might seem odd, but I think that the move served a few purposes, firstly, assuming that Ryanair were only getting big concessions on routes that currently had no operator on them, LTN at that time was one of the FR bases in the UK that was not served from BHD and I feel EZY moved to be there first ensuring that FR couldnt then secure a good deal on it re fees. In addition, it was looking very unlikely that FR would do a route to BFS, so little fear that FR would take a BFS link to LTN.

Secondly, Might have served as a big bargaining tool with BFS and also the possibility that EZY wanted to sample the demand and yield on a BHD London route.

Given that WW are going onto BHD Stansted route I think EZY might stay put given that if EZY pulled the flight BHD management may make it very attractive for BE or WW to get onto the route.

EI-BUD

gate 22 7th Jan 2011 20:50


Given that WW are going onto BHD Stansted route I think EZY might stay put given that if EZY pulled the flight BHD management may make it very attractive for BE or WW to get onto the route.

BE didn't take the lucrative STN which lay vacant for months (which is a long time in BHD terms), and we are still waiting on their 'robust' reaction to WW. I think the WW STN move is part of an overall strategy by bmi group to take the pressure off the LHR slots on domestics. Will EDI/STN, GLA/STN follow. The only operator that I would see being interested in LTN/BHD would be FR. However why would they bother LTN/Belfast isn't exactly the top London route out of NI? FR had most domestics covered from BHD why would they throw all the toys out of the pram and come back with one token route. Why have they not started EDI/STN etc....

EI-BUD 7th Jan 2011 21:22


BE didn't take the lucrative STN which lay vacant for months
Whether the route is lucrative remains to be seen given the level of capacity to the London market, and it remains to be seen if this will work for WW.


Why have they not started EDI/STN etc....
Im not sure as to the answer to this question, though it may be something to do with BAA setting the charges at a level that would not be attractive to FR and hence protecting EZY in the market, at the end of the day BAA would certainly not like to lose EZY at STN given that without them FR literally have the place to themselves?


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