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EI-BUD 3rd May 2007 17:12

Ryanair - 6
 
I often use Ryanair to the UK and Europe. I have never had a problem with them, ok so you dont get free drinks etc. But then not many airlines do give free onboard service. The price I pay on Ryanair is usually cheaper than the competition, however for EG, DUB LGW with BA is often at Short notice so so much cheaper and at weekends. However, the fact is the LCCs use a yield management system that will usually be cheaper the earlier that you book or should I say a Percentage of the seats go at different levels of pricing . EG (not sure of the exact % ) but say 50 % at the lowest fares...10% at the next highest price etc.
This system is much fairer as the people who book first get the lowest fare. Not so fair when you book early and then it becomes cheaper nearere the time. All that said I have often gotten a cheaper deal at short notice.

As for routes that there is only 1 operator ie Ryanair the same system applies. When You mention Liverpool and Manchester these are so often at high prices around weekends.Football etc.

It amazes me on here all the talking down of Ryanair there is . I was in Stansted last Sunday and I can say what FR have achieved there is only spectacular. In a Queue of 8 aircraft to take off 7 were FR 1 was easyjet. The amount of positives that can be attributed to FR success is imense. And b4 I get replies saying name them or prove it I am not going to. Eg Massive growth in Tourism etc. Big decrease in fares. So many people on here would have you believe that they would never fly Ryanair. So much snobbery. In Belfast nearly everyone who flies does so on LCCs and to them thats flying . They fly they dont differentiate. The only Full service(so called) from BFS is Bmi and in my book it proves to me to be just the same as FR except you get to pick you own seat.
EI-BUD

humberside_go 3rd May 2007 19:23

Anyone else booked a flight with them recently and not had the email confirmation? I booked over 48 hours ago and havent had one yet. I've noticed the website says they are experiencing delays of up to 6 hours but this has been quite a while. Booked with them many times before and its been pretty quick coming through. I just don't want to get to Stansted and find I'm not on the list!

DONTTELLTHEPAX 3rd May 2007 20:02

Just follow the link from the website, review booking and print that
page, this will be just as good as your confirmation at the Airport if
it comes to it.

allanmack 3rd May 2007 20:16

At the end of day people will choose what they feel is best product for themselves and FRs success speaks for itself. Anyone who hasn't realised that FR take advantage of sporting events is either completely niaive or just plain thick. Business is Business. Me? I am off to book another low cost flight to Stansted as I know I will get value for money. Next time I want to go to Dublin for the Scotland rugby match I 'll go via Stansted given that the direct PIK flights will be probably expensive. It will be two flights but I 'll have a few beers at STN before getting another low cost flight to DUB.

maxalt 4th May 2007 11:36

Yeah, and don't forget to mention that if the PIK - STN is delayed and you miss the connection to DUB you'll be overnighting in STN, at your own expense. :\
--------------------------------
23rd May 2007
Ryanair DUB - MAN: 169.99 euro
Aer Lingus DUB - MAN: 1 euro!

Based 4th May 2007 11:47

Maxalt,

I'm going to assume you enjoy stirring up emotions as opposed to being an idiot. Of course it's going to be €199 for a ticket if there're only 3 seats left - it's the same pricing model used by Ryanair on every route and flight. It's simple economics, nothing more!

I'll make the same assumption for your comparison of flights to Manchester on the 23rd where you've compared a morning Ryanair flight with an evening Aer Lingus flight, making the comparison irrelevant of course. If you want to compare like with like then currently:
- Ryanair 556 departing DUB at 6.10pm: €18.50
- Aer Lingus 216 departing DUB at 6.10pm: €34.49

I've included all taxes, charges, etc. and 1 checked-in bag in these prices to avoid any petty arguing on that front. Aer Lingus are due in MAN 5 minutes before Ryanair though:)

maxalt 4th May 2007 12:39

On the 23rd ALL Aer Lingus flights are 1 euro!
The early FR is 45 euro!
Still 45 times more expensive than Aer Lingus.
Or choose the late one and pay 169.99 times more.....
And I assert that you are wrong about yield management being the cause.
YOU don't know how many seats remain. You are spoofing to suport your argument.
That FR flight is 169.99 because of simple opportunism - a chance to make a fast buck.
A ripoff, plain and simple!
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23rd May 2007
Ryanair DUB - MAN: 169.99 euro
Aer Lingus DUB - MAN: 1 euro!

DONTTELLTHEPAX 4th May 2007 16:13

MAxalt you are looking like a fool:* ,
you started slagging off Ryanair about the cost of flying to LPL from DUB,
as soon as it was pointed out to you that only Ryanair offers and support this route, you change the goal posts and start slagging the MAN price
get a life, we can all find routes offered by airlines that are lower than others on the same day.:ugh:

allanmack 4th May 2007 20:59

Yeh, Maxalt, you are spot on. If you miss your flight then you have to pick up the tab. Done it twice due to that extra quick beer. Thing is I know the rules and take the consequences. The last time I did it it cost me £80 overnight in a hotel near STN and £40 flight back to PIK. Expensive last beer. Strange thing was it was still way cheaper than flying BA or BMI into LHR even including that last expensive beer.

As regards the DUB trip, chances are that the flight will not be delayed given my experience. As its a rugby trip you will leave a bit extra time at STN to chill out have a few beers so as not to miss the connection. If you do then thats all part of the adventure. Take it easy big man.

ryan2000 5th May 2007 07:04

I notice that Ryanair are advertising Cork Bremen on their website as predicted here some months ago. 1st Continental service for them from Cork.

EI-BUD 5th May 2007 09:22

notice that Ryanair are advertising Cork Bremen on their website as predicted here some months ago. 1st Continental service for them from Cork.Yesterday 21:59
Ryan 2000... I saw on Ryanair website what looks like a Cork to Bremen offer, which was headline in the offer section in the middle of the page, In factI think it was not an offer for flying Cork/Bremen but instead simply the way that the list of destinations were listed.

I think the add intended to classify the destinations by price! All of which are on offer from Dublin...

cesare.caldi 8th May 2007 20:57

Ryanair: big annunce in Weeze
 
Thursday Ryanair press conference in Weeze, MOL will be present to make a "big annunce".

German press report about a possible double of plane based at NRN from 2 to 4...

Any rumors about new possible route from Weeze?

Charlie Roy 8th May 2007 22:57

I expect mainly Spanish and Italian routes to be announced for Weeze on Thursday. Dublin, Oslo Torp or Tampere wouldn't come as a surprise either.

In other Ryanair news:
  • A Gerona - Granada route is looking likely from the autumn
  • Ryanair are also set to fly to Växjö in Southern Sweden (I'm guessing from Stansted)

Based 9th May 2007 12:46

Champions League Final
 
Ryanair are putting on flights for the final from DUB and LPL. £299 each way plus taxes from LPL and €399 each way plus taxes from DUB.

dwlpl 9th May 2007 13:01

Interesting if people aim to stay in Liverpool before they go as there a very few hotel rooms this side of the M6 still available.

jsd95 9th May 2007 13:04

New route from June 14th :

Bournemouth-Nantes, 3 per week (-2-4-6-).

Announced today

Harry the Hound 9th May 2007 15:16

BRS - Next Ryanair base?
 
There are strong rumours of BRS becoming an FR base in the very near future, can anybody in the know confirm this, would mean a good dog fight with EZY as BRS is their busiest european base behind LGW.

Charlie Roy 9th May 2007 16:45


Bournemouth-Nantes, 3 per week (-2-4-6-)
This route will be made possible by the reduction of Madrid - Faro from 1xdaily to 4xweekly (1-3-5-7)

cesare.caldi 9th May 2007 21:09

Ryanair close two routes:

BGY-WRO 3x week. Last flight 12/06
HHN-PEG 3x week, due to start in June, but don't start.

Probably both for bad load factor.

Probably will be annonced soon new replacement routes from BGY and HHN..

MUFC_fan 9th May 2007 21:37

Not officially, but add BLK-STN to that list.:(

Charlie Roy 10th May 2007 09:07

New routes from Weeze!
 
  • Fuerteventura
  • Malaga
  • Marrakesh
  • Milano Bergamo
  • Seville
  • Trapani
  • Valencia
  • Växjö

cesare.caldi 10th May 2007 18:01

Here are the frequency:

Fuerteventura 4x week
Malaga 4x week
Marrakech 3x week
Milan BGY Daily
Seville 3x week
Trapani (Sicily) 3x week
Valencia 4x week
Vaxjo (Sweden) 4x week

As I've annunced will be based two more plane at NRN, from 2 to 4.

Now NRN is the second Ryanair base in Germany after HHN (9 plane based) and BRE (3 plane based).

NRN is a "leisure" base: from 18 total routes there are 7 to Spain and 5 to Italy...

en2r 15th May 2007 19:34

Credit Card Fee
 
Has anyone else noticed that they've put up the credit card fee to €3 per person each way, a 20% increase.

dumdumbrain 15th May 2007 20:21

EMA
 
Anyone know how long we have to wait to find out when ema and hhn will be annunced? Or when we will find out for sure that another two a/c will be added to ema this winter?

cesare.caldi 15th May 2007 20:46


Has anyone else noticed that they've put up the credit card fee to €3 per person each way, a 20% increase
If you use Visa Electron don't pay any credit card fee ;)

en2r 15th May 2007 21:32

Visa Electron
 

If you use Visa Electron don't pay any credit card fee
I don't think any Irish banks supply Visa Electron Cards

VanBosh 16th May 2007 07:41

Halifax Ireland will with their new current account

VanBosh 16th May 2007 12:23

9 new Routes From Barcelona
 
Another 2 new planes to Barcelona !

Billund
Bratislava
Fez
Granada
Graz
Hamburg
Malta
Marrakesh
Wroclaw

airhumberside 16th May 2007 13:02

Havent we had Marrakech before?

Charlie Roy 16th May 2007 15:47

I see all the new Girona routes on the site except for Granada?

MUFC_fan 16th May 2007 19:44

Anybody booked on the free flights...yes FREE (well, 1p!)

I payed 2p return for an MAN to DUB flight in October. I actually payed the 4GBP for the online check-in etc, but still - 2p!!

No Creditcard fees, no Government tax, no 'wheelchair tax'...nothing.

jack_essex 16th May 2007 21:38

I have! Just booked 4 of us for a day trip trip Dublin. Everything came to 0.08 pence!!! No taxes, charges or anything! Have a look on airliners.net, people have booked like 5 return trips each! LOL. It's rude not to book flights for that price even if you don't bother turning up for them. I have booked some flights on the off chance I will actually be able to go!

JDB1052 16th May 2007 22:11

This latest Ryanair scheme must surely be getting their shareholders worried. Giving away seats for ten euro plus all the credit card fees is one thing, but giving them away for free and absorbing all the airport and government taxes is just plain silly. Sure they get loads of publicity, but suffered a booking service outage for almost three hours this afternoon plus every passenger they carry will cost them money. For starters, many of their routes incur full airport charges as the deals have expired, plus for every "Free" passenger they carry out of the UK, they pay the Browne/Blair Bank ten pounds. Even if every "free" seat only cost them on average ten euros in taxes and charges, there's ten million quid to subsidise a silly publicity stunt.

Then there's the reaction of the shareholders, who no doubt will be delighted when Ryanairs set factor is back to normal next month, having forgotten that they had to give away the seats to achieve it - not?


What a load of tosh - Ryanair need to realise that, if you can't give it away for ten euors, you are producing too much. They must have massive over capacity relative to demand at the moment - can't remember the last FR flight I was on where the first six rows were not closed off.

The bubble has burst - what next?

cesare.caldi 16th May 2007 22:28

Spanish press report a new expansion of Ryanair Madrid base: from November will be add 2 new plane (from 3 to 5) and will be open 7 new route:

MAD-FKB
MAD-NRN
MAD-HHN
MAD-LPL
MAD-TSF
MAD-TPS
MAD-Sardinia (AHO or CAG?)

Probably new routes will be annunced soon...

cesare.caldi 16th May 2007 22:30

Italian press report about Alghero (AHO) will be annunced soon as Ryanair new base. One of the several new routes is AHO-CRL....

Charlie Roy 17th May 2007 00:32

Portugese press reports that Ryanair will announce new routes from Oporto today (Thursday).

http://www.turisver.com/article.php?id=27175

kingdee 17th May 2007 02:34

How cheap is cheap
 
Crumbs MOL will be paying us to fly soon .So what is behind this free flight offer must be something .Anyhow i have just booked a shed of flights for .002p return .Keep up the good work MOL :ok:

eu01 17th May 2007 06:20

Well indeed, Ryanair website has been extremely busy yesterday, partially down as well.

Originally Posted by The Scotsman


Passenger frenzy grounds website as Ryanair launches free flights


RYANAIR has opened a new front in the bitter airline price war by offering completely free flights for the first time.
However, the no-frills carrier's website was unable to cope with demand for the one million free seats yesterday
(...)
Analysts said the new approach was to lure passengers from rivals as Ryanair increased flights to France, Italy and Spain as part of a planned 27 per cent growth in capacity this year. They said the airline would want to ensure the new aircraft which are joining its fleet to serve the routes were filled.

Further expansion is due to be announced by Michael O'Leary, Ryanair's chief executive, at East Midlands airport today.
The experts predicted airlines such as Alitalia, Iberia and Air Berlin could be hardest hit, while Ryanair said it was also stepping up the pressure on British Airways and EasyJet.

Nick Van den Brul, an aviation analyst with brokers Exane BNP Paribas, said: "To keep load factors [proportion of seats filled] up, Ryanair will have to discount seats, effectively starting a new price war." However, he warned that the free tickets could lead to Ryanair increasing the price of other seats on some flights to maintain revenue levels.


airhumberside 17th May 2007 08:20

FR could be busy today with Porto and EMA (reported in the Scotsman). Porto-EMA anyone?

jongeman 17th May 2007 08:23

I'm waiting for MAN-MAD but think I'm going to be disappointed.


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