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Powerjet1 15th Oct 2010 06:07


The Flybe Jersey schedule for next summer seems to be a daily operation cannot remember if it was the same this summer
For S011, Jersey is daily ex Tu/Th. It is only daily to the IOM. Both schedules are identical to this year. Jersey was never daily during S010.

southside bobby 15th Oct 2010 09:56

Pabely...Re your LTN-STN rant..your words..(oh & give it up by the way)...you are wrong & wrong...Firstly though, I think the word you were trying to spell was "subsidy"...However to the facts..Stansted Airport Limited publishes its Regulatory Accounts,for the latest google them,there is no subsidy,cross or otherwise,(although I know that mirage continues to fester within the Luton forum)..And wrong again Pabely regarding Ryanair,they are & have been a major campaigner for new ownership of Stansted...Hope this helps,Best Regards,The Southside..

pabely 15th Oct 2010 13:30

Southside, regards to you. Not having a dig at STN, but only history.

Yes but there was subsidy, fact, monopolies and merger commission stated this in 2007 after all the major infrastructure was put in place. Yes this no longer happens.

MOL has his own agenda, what did he say "yesterday's reversal for BAA was nothing less than the forces of good triumphing over the evil empire." He will only want the lowest cost, and why not, why else did he turn up with the press at the high court this week!

Nuff said?

Buster the Bear 15th Oct 2010 20:09

Abertis can walk away in 2028.

Blimey, didn't realise that there had been a renegotiation and acceptance of a new concession agreement!

2028 sounds like something I scratch when I am hot and it rhymes with rollox!

pabely 15th Oct 2010 20:27

Wikipedia says the agreement was 30 years from August 2007 with LLAOL but with TBI then ACDL but I'm sure someone will correct this?

LTNman 16th Oct 2010 07:03

Abertis has a Portfolio of 30 airports worldwide but only owns 3 of them. Most of their airports are operated on a concession basis as is Luton.

pabely 18th Oct 2010 11:40

NATS put air traffic managment changes on ice
 
CONTROVERSIAL plans to queue aircraft in the skies above Huntingdonshire have been shelved because of low passenger numbers.
The National Air Traffic Service (NATS) had wanted to allow planes waiting to land at Luton Airport to enter a stacking system above Huntingdonshire and South Cambridgeshire.
However, the urgent need for change to the flight paths to Luton and Stansted airports, sparked by ever-growing passenger numbers in 2007, disappeared when the number of people on flights failed to escalate as predicted.
A four-month consultation into the plans in 2008 produced more than 15,000 responses, many objecting to the moving of Luton and Stansted’s holds. Following the consultation NATs said it was looking at revising the proposals and would publish those in 2009. However, the work was delayed and now the plans have been put on the back burner and will become part of a wider review in 2013/14.
Alex Bristol, NATs development and investment director, said the review would still go ahead.
“While the downturn in air traffic means we can take longer to ensure we have the best solution, we have always been clear that doing nothing is not a long term option,” he said.
His colleagues will now review a wider area of airspace over southern England for 2013/2014, when passenger levels are expected to return to pre-recession highs. In particular, NATS says it wants to keep planes higher in the skies for longer on more direct routes so they can save fuel and have less of an environmental impact.
That could also mean less noise for people on the ground, Mr Bristol said.
He added: “This is a very large and complex area of airspace with many interactions.
“As traffic levels pick up, changes will be necessary to ensure continued safety and reduced delay.
“The work we have done so far, and the feedback we have from the 2008 consultation, will be very much part of our plans.”

jpthomas72 25th Oct 2010 10:31

Rumours: Wizzair to Vilnius (VNO)
 
... reported on 15min.lt and lrytas.lt: Wizzair close to a deal with Vilnius airport (VNO):
LTN is Wizz' strong-hold in the London area, so one of the eight destinations should be LTN. Amazingly, VNO currently has no London flights whatsoever (neighbouring KUN eats into that market). And you can expect a sudden revival of AirBaltic's VNO-LGW now. I mean within days of this rumour. They will consider this an intrusion into their territory.

Jamie2k9 25th Oct 2010 11:45


And you can expect a sudden revival of AirBaltic's VNO-LGW
BT VNO - LGW flights will resume next summer.

Buster the Bear 25th Oct 2010 17:36

Wikipedia - never believe all you read. AGI - TBI - Abertis. From memory Luton is about 13-14 years into the concession agreement. Abertis can in theory walk away after 15 (of a 25 year term), or that is what was being proposed back in the days AGI took on the concession.

I must dust off an old PC with much more detail within. I will always remember Frankfurt airport walking away shortly after due diligence commenced, they were the firm favourites of the then, airport management.

The final three were National Express, Copenhagen airport and AGI (was Lockheed).

pabely 25th Oct 2010 18:02

15 years but must have 12 months notice; the clock is ticking.

Agreement in place in August 1998.

Taken from LLAOL's own accounts and the airports own web site.

Wikipedia - does catch out a few cheats on their iPODs during a pub quiz!!!

jpthomas72 26th Oct 2010 11:07


BT VNO - LGW flights will resume next summer.
OK, starting end-March, but it's Wed/Thu/Sat/Mon, missing the all-important Fri/Sun weekend connections. Otherwise they route via RIX (as usual). Also nothing for VNO-LON over Christmas. Some people in LT think BT cause more hazard than FR. Wizz could be popular, just for not being BT. I'd prefer LTN anyway as it's closer to us in the Midlands.

jpthomas72 27th Oct 2010 09:12

Vilnius (VNO) starts 17th April 2011
 
Wizzair LTN-VNO is starting 17th April 2011, now bookable: Traditionally for Wizzair at LTN, another early morning flight (8:05 departure) Sun/Mon/Wed/Thu/Fri. Presumably a VNO-based aircraft. This is part of 8 routes from VNO, as rumoured. Good news ! A Fri evening or Sat morning would have been nice, but still.

LTNman 3rd Nov 2010 20:00

I see that contractors were digging up the barriers today that had been installed on the grass between the tunnel and the midterm car park. Not sure at what point they were going to stop but 9 sections had been removed as I went past. The barriers have only been installed a matter of weeks in an attempt to put off passengers not wanting to use the drop off zone.

OLNEY 1 BRAVO 4th Nov 2010 12:57

Probably being done as it had become impossible to walk to the terminal from the mid term car park since the barriers had been installed.

It was of course entirely predictable ... but since when has that stopped Airport Management from wasting money.:ugh::ugh:

LGS6753 4th Nov 2010 19:35

Looks as though Aer Arann will move to SEN in March.

Not a sensible move IMHO.

Level bust 4th Nov 2010 20:55

I had heard that the proposed deal involving Stobart had been rejected by the court involved with the re-financing.

airferries 4th Nov 2010 20:58

No, a new investor came to the table and an agreement has now been made.

Aer Arann to exit examinership after agreement with Revenue - Irish, Business - Independent.ie

Falcon666 5th Nov 2010 14:33

Ryanair S11
 
Noticed Ryanairs S11 Irish and French destinations now bookable.
Bezier and Brest Tue/Thur/Sat
Kerry daily
Knock down to 4x weekly. Sun/Mon/Wed/Fri.Was daily this summer if i am correct..
Dublin 3 x daily.

Rumours now rife about Air Aranns departure to SEN in March.
Wonder if FlyBE might step in as both routes well established

airnoc 5th Nov 2010 15:06

FALCON666

Knock down to 4x weekly. Sun/Mon/Wed/Fri.Was daily this summer if i am correct..
Knock was four weekly for S10 and went to daily for winter/spring 2010/11


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