Eastern Airways
 

Does anyone have any information regarding expansion plans for this airlne? Is an intresting development the idea that they may be taking on some of the ex BA Connect 146's. New routes?

There are a lot of opportunities for expansion by Eastern, they specialise in niche business routes and need to be careful. Two recent examples, Inverness - Newcastle and Newcastle - London City both failed to attract the numbers of pax required and the London City route had a double whammy effect with the airport greatly increasing its fees, making the route non- viable with a small aircraft. I still hope they might consider ABZ - NCL - LCY with a larger aircraft which might work.

It would be nice if Eastern considered Exeter with the larger aircraft (Don't really want the Jet Streams) as we handle enough of their diversions.

The Saab 2000 and the Jet aircraft could be used on services to destinations not currently served by Flybe....Brussels for example.

I would hope that Eastern will look closer to home and consider expansion at Humberside. Brussels and Southampton would work.

Regards

Mike

True, Humberside is poorly served by Eastern compared to the other airports they operate to and from. In fact, the whole airport could do with a bit of a boost.

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"...London City both failed to attract the numbers of pax required and the London City route had a double whammy effect with the airport greatly increasing its fees, making the route non-viable with a small aircraft."

Don't think this is correct - I thought it was the end of the introductory period for new routes. Not quite the same thing.

forget humberside
 

Best thing Eastern can do is wate and pick up the better drop outs from the BAcon rape. FlyMaybe will not be taking on lots of routes that are not good for the Q400 because of low pax numbres:eek: these coud be good for the J41s of Eastern where yeald is more important than numbres.:D

What about Eastern Airways adding more routes from Cardiff or add frequency on the CWL - NCL. When Eastern Airways started operating at CWL it mentioned Aberdeen why havent they ever operated the service?

:ok:

Perhaps Eastern and any of the former BACON routes out of BRS now that FlyMayBe have done a runner. sounds like some of those routes were profitable

Norwich - Brussels would be good, especially as flybe don't seem to want to add many more routes from NWI

T3 have been pretty quiet on the expansion front of late.

Wonder if they have crewing issues, with people leaving and not enough newbies coming in.

Could be one theory.

Eastern are watching and waiting for the right time to expand. Once the BACON/Flybe debacle is settled then they'll probably move in and clean up! :}

skiddy

Eastern
 

Sounds rite to me. :ok: There might even be some fall out in IOM for Eastern if FlyMayBe kills off them Red Tails over there.:E

I dont see T3 lasting much longer on SOU-IOM with BE starting it soon

when did you hear of them possibly coming back to CWL info desk? All they need to do is operate a viable route from CWL rather than the BRU that failed so miserably.

SOU-IOM

Lets stay positive one door closes and another one opens who knows what might be in store for T3 from the IOM

Whispers of Eastern taking over Loganair

Yes I have heard that too, can't remember where from though! May have been here on pprune.

Damn good rumour to start!! Must be able to progress THAT one to the point where it comes true!!! :}

skiddy

i can see that happening. BA only want LHR and LGW big planes not little ones

Loganair are only a franchisee not directly ba owned are they??

Franchise only. Not BA owned.

Logi Bear
 

Reckon Eastern/Loganair would make a grate deal:ok: . Doubt if theyd walk away with £120m in there pocket tho AKA FlyMaybee/BAcon:{ Go for it boys and give FlyMayBee a run for there money:D

See Eastern are working with BAe Systems to come up with a J-41 Freighter. Maybe they're going into the freight business?

freighter
 

Ah...the use of all good aircraft coming th the end of there life.:( :( presum its' also to find a use for thos white tails in the US desert.:ok:

According to the Dutch slot website, Eastern have requested, and have been allocated 526 slots at Amsterdam Schiphol for the summer season. If an airlines applies for slots, do they have to use them? Can anyone clear this up, or is it just a mistake on the website?

Regards

Mike

From what I remember from looking on there it was a charter series to somewhere in Croatia (iirc) with the Saab 2000's

EDIT: Obviously not!

This is from the dutch slot co-ordination website

A AMS T37831 28MAY 27OCT 1234560 050 S20 ZZJ ZZJ 0800
D AMS T37832 28MAY 27OCT 1234560 050 S20 0840 ZZJ ZZJ
A AMS T37838 28MAY 26OCT 1234507 050 S20 ZZJ ZZJ 1650
D AMS T37839 28MAY 26OCT 1234507 050 S20 1730 ZZJ ZZJ

Some valuable peak time slots there - but where is ZZJ?

ZZJ?
 

Perhaps a code for "holding" a slot while a schedule is worked out? Might depend on the other end of the flight if that is to a regulated airport where applicable slots may not be available?

Which regional airports do not have an AMS link and a decently-sized market that would put up with Eastern's high fares ?

How about one of the well-off off-shore markets that currently lack access to a fully-fledged international hub r are only served by point2point LCCs.... ?

BHX Handling
 

Rumour has it Eastern will be handled by Aviance at BHX from May 1st

-BHXboy-

Good Chance of Aviance at BHX as they have recently changed to Aviance at Teesside / Durham / Darlington whatever it is called, they also do Leeds and Southampton that I know Of

QUOTE "Which regional airports do not have an AMS link and a decently-sized market that would put up with Eastern's high fares ?

How about one of the well-off off-shore markets that currently lack access to a fully-fledged international hub r are only served by point2point LCCs.... ?"


Guernsey & Jersey would bite Easterns' hand off to operate to AMS & even ZRH. The islnds used to have a daily Saab 2000 flight to ZRH which had good pax loads but was withdrawn due to Swiss' finanacial state.
The business community here would pay high fares for the convenience of a direct service.

Strong rumours that a new KLM codeshare service between INV and AMS is at an advanced stage of planning. earmarked for the Scaab 2000.

Watch this space!!

AMS
 

Aurigny also used to run a reasonably successful GCI AMS daily with SAAB 340 .

EMA
 

Anyone else think that Eastern may pull out of EMA if baby start EMA-ABZ?

Depnds on the frequency and times. I doubt business passengers (Eastern's market) would be interested in a once daily service, but a double daily service (breakfast/early evening) might be of interest to them and could well force Eastern out of the market, unless T3 have some contracts that could keep the route going

Ema-abz
 

I know at the moment that T3 isn't doing great from EMA, and the amount of flights that are late or cancelled is just getting silly now. When I last spoke to my friend at baby it would be a twice a day service.

Eastern have reduced their frequencies on the EMA route, and to be honest I don't think EMA is a high yield airport when you consider all the other airlines at the airport are either low-cost or charter. bmibaby would do well on a twice daily ABZ route from EMA, but there is a need for an additional based aircraft so I can't see it happening in the very close future, but have heard it mulled.

You know, when I saw the slot times, I thought about Inverness. However, are the times in GMT?, because an 8am local time arrival into AMS would mean a departure from INV of around 0510am, which is waaay earlier than the majority of KLM's UK departures.

Regards

Mike