EAST MIDLANDS - 3
 

East Midlands - 2 here. http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=230974
Anyone know about whether or ot the BA (GB Airways) TFS will continue on into Summer 07?
It is a new route for BRS and EMA, and I notice from ba . com that BRS is available to book next summer. As yet not EMA.
The flights will be A321 with LGW based crew. They will fly LGW-TFS, nightstop, TFS - EMA - TFS, Nightstop, TFS - BRS - TFS, nightstop, TFS - LGW and then sleep a lot ;)
Come on Phil_2405 - impress us all with the size of your knowledge ;) ;) :ok:

A look at FCA for Summer 07 sees Cancun on Mondays, Puerta Plata on Tuesdays, Punta Cana on Tuesdays and Sanford on Wednesdays. Can't see Varadero, as suggested above. :confused:

Go on to FC website, check 10 jun 07 for 14 nights :ok:

Oh yeah - and there it is - Varadero departing 1120 on Sundays.

With a laughaul departure on Sun, Mon, Tues and Wed will there be a FCA 767 based at EMA next summer?

Of not so much interest, but World Airways MD11's are replacing Gemini MD11's
for DHL effective W06 schedules :\

Scaffolding all around the main terminal, Checker Cars' office moved to make way for new shopping mall/arrivals hall, lots of new Ryanair routes ... summer 2007 is going to look very exciting as it is, and we're not even at the end of summer 2006 yet!

is there any fotos of the building work anywhere please. havent been there for months

also any pier pics please.

Regards

Stu

We could do with an official thread photographer....any volunteers? :)

(that's someone who can take pics for this thread, as opposed to someone who takes pictures of thread)

Bring back the croc pot !!!
I know change is a must, cos the airport is a bloody mess at the moment, but I can't help thinking how great it was back in the 80's.
Staff car park right next to the teminal. The "Greasy spoon", The Croc pot cafe, the tiny baggage belt by the domestic arrivals door, The holiday shop in the corner by the baggage office, flea-ridden check-in desks, shellsuits as far as the eye could see, British Midland a/c lined up on the ramp and Mike Bradbury...oh, 'ang on, he's still there, of course !
Jeez, I'm getting old !:)

Deja vu, here we go again. BBC East Midlands teletext were tonight reporting that EMA is considering a name change at a meeting they will be holding in December.
Guess they must have read my recent post:)

My 10ps worth, "East Midlands International Airport" Yes, I know:eek:

Bearing in mind the current vogue of naming after people - surely "Brian Clough Old Bighead Airport" must be in the running ;) (though no doubt the other City will want Gary Lineker International!)

Or Nottingham Su Pollard Airport

Definately this one! Su Pollard is a legend!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :ok:

'East Midlands International Airport'

Deja Vu...... the original name if memory serves....

And why would any business want to be called after the murder capital of the North? I know the reasons why, but there were so many other 'why not!'


BTW any particular reason my back yard was filled with fumes last night? Who was spewing at the west end of the airport?
Usually only happens in Summer...........:yuk:

Let us all pray the airport doesn't get some pointless celebrity name tag.

There are a few quotes on the BBC website www.bbc.co.uk/nottingham that strike me as odd, for example:

""Michael Copestake, of Marketing Derby, said: "It hasn't helped the East Midlands to develop itself as a region and that has been a problem.

"If we are going to promote the East Midlands as an area to do business in, if we've got the main airport that doesn't carry that logo it doesn't achieve that objective." ""

The last time I looked at the terminal front, the airport's website, it marketing material, the words east and midlands were written all over it.

The most important thing is clarity. And it is a fact that at the moment some websites list the airport as :

FR - East Midlands (EMA) in its booking drop down list, but regularly refer to it as Nottingham (East Midlands) in its marketing, including the big poster in the check-in hall.

EZY - Nottingham East Midlands (EMA) on its drop down, East Midlands on its route map (with the dot hovering somewhere over Stratford on Avon!)

WW - Nottingham East Midlands (EMA) on its dropdowns, Nottingham EMA on its route map.

TOM - Nottingham East Midlands on the dropdown, Nottingham on the route map.

T3 - Nottingham (EMA) on the dropdowns, Nottingham on the route map.

As regards the arrivals/departures displays at other airports:-

ALC is showing both WW and EZY flight s to/from NOTTINGHAM/EAST MIDLANDS

EDI is showing WW flights as to/from NOTTINGHAM

DUB is showing FR flights to/from EAST MIDLANDS

GRO is showing FR flights to/from NOTTINGHAM/EASTMIDLANDS

BRU is showing BD flights as to/from Nottingham

It could be a good idea if the airport sticks with one name but actively encouraged a standard across all websites and airports to display the name.

It should either be listed under E, or N, in the dropdowns, and the same name used on route maps (preferably with the 'dot' roughly in the middle of Derby/Nottingham/Leicester - easyJet take note!)


I have not found any other region with the same amount of parochial rivalry as exists between Derby, Nottingham and Leicester. So no doubt we will have to endure the next 2 months of pointless headlines in the Evening Telegraph, the Post and the Mercury, all scrapping over words and a vain loyalaty to a city - what's the point in that??? Surely it benefits all, businesses, holiday makers, backpackers, inbound tourists, the hospitality industry, etc etc to have a growing and successful, well connected local airport - isn't that what EGNX seems to be right now, and seems to keep on being??

WHY CHANGE?? Can we honestly, between us here on this forum, come up with 3 VALID reasons to change from the current Nottingham East Midlands Airport??

One thing they SHOULD get rid of, right now, is that woman (as shapely as she is) flapping her arms about on the front of the terminal:ugh:

It's an airport for crying out loud, not a branch of C&A.

3 Valid reasons!!!!!!!!

1) Its not in Nottingham / Nottinghamshire
2) Its Postal Address is Castle Donington, Derby
3) Its in Leicestershire

In all seriousness now tho why not call it what it is. East Midlands International Airport

Regards

Stu

UPS@EMA

Those are 3 facts, but are they valid reasons?

Castle Donington is in Leicestershire but listed in the Derby telephone directory - I don't hear the neighbours squawking on about the fact.

London Gatwick is not in London, it is in West Sussex, but its postcode RH6 is the postal district of Horley, in the county of Surrey, but is has a Crawley telephone number.

Manchester Airport had a number of previous more local names, it is mostly in Cheshire if you get really picky, the towns of Altrincham, Wilmslow and Stockport are actually closer than Manchester.

So, you stated facts - but none of them are valid reasons to change from "Nottingham East Midlands Airport" to "East Midlands Airport".

egnxema,

Can you give all of us a valid reason as to why EMA should have Nottingham in the Title.

BTW my facts were tongue in cheek btw. i wasnt tryin to be too serious. :ugh:

Regards

Stu

This name thing is highly sensitive and to be honest - there will never be a universally acceptible answer.

but

Where is TriCities Airport? (TRI) any idea?

And for a while one airport actively styled itself EuroAirport (EAP). Where is that - in the mind of a non-aviation linked person?

EuroAirport is sold by easyJet as Basel-Mulhouse - instantly it becomes a lot clearer exactly where it is. Despite the fact that the airport is situated entirely on French soil, Basel is probably a better know town that Mulhouse. Interestingly, Freiburg, in Germany, also appears in the airport's name.

So despite being from Castle Donington, in Leicestershire, with my Derby postcode and telephone number - I 100% believe that airports should be "associated" with a major city - every single on of them.

In our local case, I feel that of the 3 contenders D, N & L, that Nottingham is good.

Could it be that some in the local area would benefit from lifting their heads up to look at the picture on a more European, or international scale, not on the scale of 3 counties of England.

Another reason is that while looking on Departures boards in airports abroad - I can honestly say, on 3 occassions I have overheard other British passengers read aloud "East Midlands...........where's that?"

For much of its history the airport has been a departure point for those in the region going away on holiday. But things have already changed, we all are pleased that EMA now has over 100 destinations year round. But many of the "destinations" are also points of origin for inbound visitors.

I still believe, but am willing to be corrected, that if a german businessman near Cologne needing to visit a firm in Melton Mowbray looking at the easyJet and germanwings websites, with the help of his regular everyday office atlas, will find a places called "Nottingham" and "Birmingham" faster than he will see labels for "East Midlands" or "West Midlands".

He then sees "Nottingham East Midlands" on the easyJet dropdown - the probability of him being an addtional EMA pax rather than BHX pax in greatly increased.

Another thing.....

When the airport last did the name change game, it was a BHX/EMA region. Well, things have changed. It is now a BHX/CVT/DSA/EMA region - the stakes are A LOT higher. DSA has already got TOM longhaul flights to CUN and SFB, and now GSM have announced weekly longhaul flight from DSA to YYZ! Shaheen Airlines have announced flights from DSA to Islamabad and YYZ.

So - EMA - please don't expend valuable time and research funding on yet another name change -stick with Nottingham East Midlands (not perfect, granted, but not bad by any means), and build on your already good success, go out and impress the airlines to bring the likes of YYZ, YVR, DXB, India, Pakistan, etc to the EMA route map.

When you are looking at that sort of picture - Nottingham will look a lot better next to a dot on a world route map than EMIA.


:)

How about:

* Castle Donington Derby (the original IATA code was CDD for this very reason)
* Diseworth International Airport
* Islay Walton Airport
* Birmingham Northeast (probably the option Ryanair would favour!!!)
* Brian Clough International (could be appropriate given he was a manager at more than on club in the region)

Alternatively, just leave it as Nottingham East Midlands as it does convey an indication of where the region actually is, which to my niave mind does seem vaguely important.

Andy

Boy oh boy I'm in a mood today, lol. :ooh:

After they have ridded the terminal front of the still shot of an exercise video, they airport should be pressing Midland Mainline for a completion date for the Parkway Station.

All the current bus improvements are good. Now get the new train station built and things can only get better.


hmmmm, what can I rant about next......:*

Midland Mainline are not going to build the Parkway station as they won't be around by then. Their francise runs out next year, and the contruction of the station will become a condition of the new "East Midlands" franchise which starts later next year and which will combine the services of the current Midland Mainline and east-midlands Central Trains operation. Whoever wins the franchise (there are, I believe, three bidders - National Express, First Group, and another) will be required to build the station by the end of 2008.

Andy

The new Ryanair schedules are causing much angst to the NIMBY's, a letter in the local rag the New Nu's says "10 new routes arrive and depart during the hours most of you will be trying to sleep and as you know passenger flights are banned from doing this at other UK airports", sounds like the stuff coming from a labour spin docter more like, i'm sure all other airports are open 24/7 apart from say LHR....:\

Probably if M O'L gets involved he will tell the management what the airport will be called.:)
Secondly, for the parkway station, I can just imagine Meridian trains painted like First Buses stopping there in 3 years time.
Finally, as a taxpayer of Leicestershire I am not too chuffed at Leicestershire police picking up the tab for an airport called Nottingham:confused:
ps Maybe the title could be changed every 3 years to incorporate the 3 main cities. ie: 2004-7 NEMA, 2007-10 DEMA, and 10-13 LEMA:)

Just leave it as it is stop messing with around with things and wasting money it this does is confuse the customer more, and lets be honest the pax loads have gone up since its been called Nottingham, so just leave it and deal with more important things.

Morning....and since its been called Nottingham, your team of Red dogs have been plummeting ever downwards.(apart from their current "blip").
GOT to be more than a coincidence !
Hope you're ok.
LB
YOU RAMS !:\

from bbcnew:

Full steam ahead for airport link
A long-awaited railway link to Nottingham East Midlands Airport could be up and running by December 2008, according to organisers.
Network Rail has now taken over the project from Midland Mainline and is carrying out surveying work on the planned site at Ratcliffe-on Soar.

The parkway station near junction 24 of the M1 would provide rail links to the airport from nearby cities and London.

It is hoped that construction work would start in Spring 2007.


As far as we're concerned the project is full steam ahead
Ben Herbert, Network Rail

The planned parkway station would eventually provide 1,000 parking spaces and a shuttle service to the airport.

Ben Herbert, from Network Rail, said the company was now getting on with designing the station and taking the proposals through the relevant planning processes.

He said the station would greatly improve transport links in and around the East Midlands.

"The reason the site has been chosen is because it is the nearest point on the existing railway to the airport itself, it's handy for the A453 trunk road and also junction 24 of the M1.

"As far as we're concerned the project is full steam ahead, it's all going well and we'll be able to get some more information on what the station will actually look like after Christmas," he said.

He added that the operator for train services to the station would be decided by November 2007.

The East Midlands parkway station has been on the drawing board for years, but has been dogged by planning rows.

The land was bought by compulsory purchase order from energy company Powergen, and plans for the station have been opposed by local residents.

Personally, regarding the name change, I really do hope it doesn't get named after a celebrity. Please EMA, don't do that!

How about London East Midlands Airport :rolleyes: .....after all everything else is............ I Know Leicester was peeved at it being called Nottingham East Midlands Airport, after all they have to pick up the tab for the policing of the place...... to see it named after a different city rankled.

NEMA just does not roll of the tongue, perhaps if they had called it East Nottingham East Midlands Airport, that would at least of conjured up a name you could go on so to speak....... Think about it.

:D :D :D :D excellent NutLoose :D :D :D :D

I think that the airport is finally waking up to the fact that it cannot afford to be making enemies over trivial things like the name. As others have mentioned, there is fierce local pride in the region (though isn't there everywhere?) and to name the local airport after one of the three primary cities that it serves was always going to be controversial. I agree that the name "East Midlands" is too vague, as it doesn't imply the country, simply the region of one country. Adding a city has helped identify it, and whilst living in Loughborough, Leicester is actually my closest big city, I regularly tell foreigners I meet I'm from Nottingham as few have heard of Leicester. Perhaps had the airport been named after all three cities and dropped "East Midlands" it would've been OK. I think simply it'll revert to East Midlands Airport (after all that's what people refer to it as, or some elderly members around do call it Donno or Donington) or East Midlands International Airport.

Great news to hear about all of these new Ryanair routes starting in February. Any idea how things are progressing to get the terminal all shaped up for next summer, including this exciting proposal for the "pier"? I'm pretty sure it'll be airbridge-less.

bmibaby

You could always rename the other Birmingham West Midlands Airport, that would put it in context for all passengers to Nottingham East Midlands Airport then :p but you have to realise that a simple rename costs hundreds of thousands in new road signs etc around the counties.............

As for the Pier, is that not supposed to be going between the old and new apron extension, losing the car parking facility in the old post office freight building?............................

What's this pier I've been hearing about?

[quote=NutLoose;2922532]bmibaby

You could always rename the other Birmingham West Midlands Airport, that would put it in context for all passengers to Nottingham East Midlands Airport then :p but you have to realise that a simple rename costs hundreds of thousands in new road signs etc around the counties.............

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No problem there then; most of the road signs were never changed in the first place and still say EMA(the airport wouldn't pay for it). The sign at the front was ordered well before the first announcement; that is, before the 'consultations' that followed the first announcement. No doubt we shall hear of any other name change by the same means.

BTW, this year I have flown to Washington, Vancouver, Bratislava;will also be going to Poznan (Poland) and Valencia before the end of the year.
I have yet to fly from East Midlands, my nearest neighbour.:(

Can anyone provide me with any info with regards to extending the western apron again.

also the satallite seems like it will be connected to the international departures by an elevated walkway. sounds like there is planning permission for Air Bridges to be included.

Regards

Stu

ba-tenerife
 

hey all a little more information today the tenerife flights will stop in the middle of may 2007 & restart first week of october 2007 with the same frequency cheers paul

Air Bridges back at the 'Donn - Argosies or Vanguards???

:ok: :ok:

Not a surprise that the BA Connect Tenerife service will end for the summer. It's already well served by the charter airlines, most of whom are now selling these seats directly to the customer via the internet.

Unless EMA have some exciting longhaul or full-service offerings up their sleaves, any idea who would actually use airbridges out of the airport?

NEMA to Brussels
 

Can anyone please tell me why the BRU operated by BMIregional is still showing as a baby route on the Baby website? Admittedly it does transfer you to BMI website, but as it was a BABY route 3 years ago, why is it still on their website? (Paris was regional but is not on the BMI website from NEMA)- Is it going back to BABY with Locost Service or is regional keeping it and continuing their route offering full service? I'm a bit confused, anyone heard anything around NEMA? :confused: