Originally Posted by Jerbourg
(Post 10434978)
A friend watching the pax board the first Flybe LHR flight on the airport webcam says the total load looked to be about 25/30, if he's right it's not the best start.
(If I'm wrong please correct me). |
And it's also a Sunday so not likely to have many business travellers
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I don’t suppose Flybe / Stobart / Virgin will be that bothered anyway, they’re getting paid to run it and it’s using a slot that would otherwise be lost, and worth a lot of £££. Any money they get in revenue is a bonus. |
The route was put on sale quite late without much lead in time to sell so it’s perhaps no surprise that loads are quite light. I expect this will change in time and loads should improve. |
Originally Posted by Jerbourg
(Post 10434978)
A friend watching the pax board the first Flybe LHR flight on the airport webcam says the total load looked to be about 25/30, if he's right it's not the best start.
(If I'm wrong please correct me). |
May just be a glitch but whilst trying to book a flight at the end of July I notice the GCI-BHX timings change back to more traditional times for the afternoon flight so I'm wondering if the aircraft to operate the Heathrow route will be coming into the island from elsewhere as we move further into the summer schedule
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Originally Posted by mullac30
(Post 10435014)
Well if its the inaugural, that means that there are only outbound passengers on the flight (ie no-one returning to GCI) so it makes sense that the flight is only half full .
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I don't think that we can read too much into the pax loads, yet. It is still early days. But, maybe Heathrow is not quite as popular nowadays to the Guernsey traveller as it used to be. Certainly, Jersey politicians are wary of the possible repercussions on the Gatwick service of having a Heathrow route. More concerning is the revelation that BEE are only" baby sitting" these slots at Heathrow (on behalf of Delta/Virgin). The likelihood is that . as soon as the parent airline wants to use them for their flights, Guernsey will lose them - & bye bye Heathrow. & the States £850k !
As I said before, you couldn't make all of this up ! |
Originally Posted by kcockayne
(Post 10435480)
I don't think that we can read too much into the pax loads, yet. It is still early days. But, maybe Heathrow is not quite as popular nowadays to the Guernsey traveller as it used to be. Certainly, Jersey politicians are wary of the possible repercussions on the Gatwick service of having a Heathrow route. More concerning is the revelation that BEE are only" baby sitting" these slots at Heathrow (on behalf of Delta/Virgin). The likelihood is that . as soon as the parent airline wants to use them for their flights, Guernsey will lose them - & bye bye Heathrow. & the States £850k !
As I said before, you couldn't make all of this up ! |
It is all in Guernseys desperation to try an attract more tourists. Not only are the timings pretty rubbish in the grand scheme of things once you have all your baggage paid for there is very little in it as opposed to flying via Gatwick. It will become a total farce when Fog hits the Islands or LHR, it will be the first route to get the chop being classed as domestic!!!
Sorry to say this is just a white Elephant that will disappear at the end of the summer season and the only people out of pocket will be the Guernsey Government!! What are the loads like? |
Originally Posted by wakeup
(Post 10438809)
It is all in Guernseys desperation to try an attract more tourists. Not only are the timings pretty rubbish in the grand scheme of things once you have all your baggage paid for there is very little in it as opposed to flying via Gatwick. It will become a total farce when Fog hits the Islands or LHR, it will be the first route to get the chop being classed as domestic!!!
Sorry to say this is just a white Elephant that will disappear at the end of the summer season and the only people out of pocket will be the Guernsey Government!! What are the loads like? |
Originally Posted by Planespeaking
(Post 10438862)
There is now the new Blue Islands route to London Southend. Who knows! |
Originally Posted by Tonyq
(Post 10436063)
If the politicians in the Isle of Man are telling the truth (and that can't be taken as read!), the IOM is not paying FlyBe anything for the equivalent LHR service, which should also cause some questions to be asked in Guernsey!
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I seem to remember that after the Air UK drama there wwas talk whether Guernsey - instead of an airline - could own slots at LHR in order to safeguard them from getting sold off by a greedy airline,
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Originally Posted by virginblue
(Post 10439880)
I seem to remember that after the Air UK drama there wwas talk whether Guernsey - instead of an airline - could own slots at LHR in order to safeguard them from getting sold off by a greedy airline,
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Yes, & now they are giving £850k to a competitor airline so that it can take pax away from their “state owned airline” by operating a competing service which looks like it will only run that service until the parent airline wants its slots back ! More than that, certain elements of the political class, who spent taxpayers’ money on buying AUR now want to spend millions on a runway extension designed to get a LCC operating further (unbeatable) competition for AUR on the London route . Amazing stuff ! Only in Guernsey (& I say that as a , bemused, Guernseyman !). |
Originally Posted by kcockayne
(Post 10439962)
certain elements of the political class, who spent taxpayers’ money on buying AUR now want to spend millions on a runway extension designed to get a LCC operating further (unbeatable) competition for AUR on the London route . Amazing stuff ! Only in Guernsey (& I say that as a , bemused, Guernseyman !). |
Sad to see that FlyBe’s availability of E195 and E175s formed part of the decision to award the route to them when within a week of the start of the service they have announced their intention to dispose of the types! Pete |
Just how is BEE’s offer going to be more resilient than AUR’s, when BEE will only have the slots used for the service until VIR/DAL want them back so as to operate a new service to the USA (next year)? For that matter, where were AUR going to get their slots for the EGLL service from ? Whilst I do have some admiration for the States trying to get this route back, I do feel that they have lost sight of the realities of Guernsey’s situation & should have researched the background to BEE’s situation & offer ; as well as demonstrating some support (other than bailing AUR out annually) to their wholly owned airline. |
within a week of the start of the service they have announced their intention to dispose of the types! |
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