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trafficnotsighted 2nd Feb 2009 10:32

yes thanks.

wasamover 2nd Feb 2009 11:24

compensation
 
Word is that Flybe are gonna bill GCI airport auth for any hotac or other pax costs.

quazz 2nd Feb 2009 11:50

yeah good luck with that

Cloud1 2nd Feb 2009 17:45

good idea - complete balls up with GCI......was it just the q400 that were affected or was Aurigny's ATR affected too? (I understand it was fire cover issues)

RED WINGS 2nd Feb 2009 17:50

Strangely no, the Aurigny flights were uneffected, seems like underhand goings on to me! Was it not the day Flybe started the extra rotation to LGW? I guess its like a mini version of what Alitalia get up to in Milan.

quazz 2nd Feb 2009 20:47

Funnily enough it wasn't the day flybe started the extra gatwick rotation. It being a sunday in Febuary all the airlines were operating a reduced schedule. There's no big mystery. Staff shortages at the airport fire services because of sickness led to the level of fire category being reduced from 6 to 5. It happens about 3 or 4 times a year in GCI so you'd think the airport authority would have a backup plan. It's probably not a good idea to p!ss off the main regional operator into guernsey

Cyclone733 2nd Feb 2009 21:16

I doubt there is anything underhanded going on from the flybe side.
The Q400 requires Crash cat 6 due to it's length and the ATR 72 requires cat 5.

Now if you were the owner of an airline and could cause issues for the competition by reducing the fire cover at the last minute....

Outoftheblue22 3rd Feb 2009 08:39

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RED WINGS 3rd Feb 2009 21:40

HAHA Cyclone733 you have a much better way with words than I!

wakeup 7th Feb 2009 14:02

More Fun & Games with Guernseys Fire Service??
 
So I hear that the Guernsey Fire service are upto to there tricks again. How long are Flybe going to put up with such shoddy service from the airport ?:=

Maybe Guernsey will see what they are missing when Flybe start to reduce services, then they won't have a problem with fire category!!!!:D

Saab2000 Freak 7th Feb 2009 14:21

It's not only FlyBE who are suffering this time, but Aurigny too, I believe the fire cover has been reduced to Category 4 cover which means neither the Q400 or ATR 72 can operate from the airfield.

Jerbourg 7th Feb 2009 14:36

Looking at CTV teletext earlier it looks likes as though Aurigny are operating their ATR72 LGW services from JER instead & ferrying pax to GCI by Trislander.


If BE get really pi**ed of I would not be surprised if they pull the plug on GCI & that would be a sad day for the island. Guernsey Airport could be run by chimps who would do a better job than the Civil Servants who currently "run" the operation.

Ayline 7th Feb 2009 14:51

Are the airport firemen up to the job seeing as they seem to suffer a disportionate amount of sickness? When I think about my place of work, there is seldom any sickness - maybe just 1 or 2 days a year per person. The firemen are a disgrace to our island, they knew what the pay was before they took on the job and they are free like the rest of us to move jobs if they don’t like the pay and conditions. They obviously don’t care about the travelling public who pay their wages or the damage caused to the island as a whole. In the current climate they are lucky to have jobs. There many people in the UK who would dearly love to have a secure job such as they have. I am not a great fan of Flybe however I fully support Flybe on this. They went to the trouble of chartering an Aer Arann ATR-72 this weekend for the sole purpose of operating flights to/from Guernsey. Isn’t it convenient that the sickness has increased still further this weekend to the point where cover is down to CAT 4 resulting in ATRs being unable to operate. Maybe next weekend Flybe will charter a fleet of Jetstreams - if that happens watch out for even more sickness! Sack the lot of them I say.

kuningan 7th Feb 2009 15:20

Ayline - while I have no sympathy for the firemen - I also wonder at how the States has let it get to this mess - they bribed the firemen with £1000 each as a 'temporary' measure so it could get resolved - but it hasn't been. Who is the politician responsible.....step forward Public Services Minister Mr Bernard "Golliwog" Flouquet....

quazz 7th Feb 2009 15:46

I thought the Arann 72 was chartered by Aurigny as one of theirs is in for a check and another is out of action as some pratt in southampton reversed a truck into it. Or was that just earlier in the week?

wakeup 7th Feb 2009 16:18

Maybe it is time for us to commute to Jersey for all flights, we would have better connections throughout the UK, and if they use trilanders and jet streams they could halve the number of firemen that are required and that would be job solved. The only down side would be the extra fare to go inter island, but maybe the airport could subsidise the cost (reduced passenger taxes) with the money saved from sacking the firemen who obviously don't appreciate having a job in this climate.

I detest people who are more then happy to sign a contract for a job, and then down the line decide they want more and hold us, (people who pay their wages) to ransom!:=

hapzim 7th Feb 2009 17:17

If the firemen get any concessions from the airlines I hope these are removed, let them travel by boat....

Helen49 7th Feb 2009 17:29

Trislander shuttle/Jetstream shuttle to Jersey and they can forget the £100 million runway project!!!

or, Privatise the airport fire service

or, privatise the whole Guernsey Airport shooting match!

Stupid firemen, they don't recognise a good deal when they see one!

Helen

Ayline 7th Feb 2009 17:58

In response to quazz:
Aer Arann ATR-72 EI-REB was chartered by Aurigny to cover for G-BWDA whilst Aer Arann ATR-72 EI-REJ was chartered by Flybe to cover Q400 services. I hope that helps.

quazz 7th Feb 2009 18:58

Cheers Ayline, busy week for Aranns charter fleet


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